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BradFiAusNzCoCaThink for yourself lol
PsychicMigration840usd plus shipping for a blank pair of skis that get overhyped on Instagram seems kinda like a scam. Are they any good for the price? For 850 I’d expect On3p durability considering it’s just a red top sheet on top of that.
Ive also never seen a pair anywhere…
nielsgettsThey are made in the Åre ski factory in Sweden which is a ski factory that is ran 100% through renewable energy a couple other brands like SGN skis, Stero skis and RMU are also manufactured in that factory. 840 is still over the top but in the end it's not just a ski your choosing to ride a brand that is committed to sustainability.
**This post was edited on Oct 25th 2022 at 4:27:16am
PsychicMigrationStill not sure if that’s worth it. Sure help the environment but at the end of the day making skis is not ever going to be a good thing. Half the time renewables are just a huge front unless it’s actually well thought out. Shipping included I guess I missed that. Not half bad, but still sus. On the flip side skis are a ridiculous price now completely outa control. I love blends but 650 for a pair I’ll beat to shit in a year that used to be 500. Same is happening in surfing with wetsuits a flash bomb runs 550 now.
PsychicMigrationStill not sure if that’s worth it. Sure help the environment but at the end of the day making skis is not ever going to be a good thing. Half the time renewables are just a huge front unless it’s actually well thought out. Shipping included I guess I missed that. Not half bad, but still sus. On the flip side skis are a ridiculous price now completely outa control. I love blends but 650 for a pair I’ll beat to shit in a year that used to be 500. Same is happening in surfing with wetsuits a flash bomb runs 550 now.
nielsgettsAmen I haven't bought a new pair of skis in. 4 years the used market isn't much better everyone is trying to use stuff for a year or 2 and then sell it with out losing money on the original purchase.
Goretex_VidalWith how much global shipping contributes to emissions it makes more sense to buy from ski companies that are local even with the carbon offsets.
PsychicMigrationStill not sure if that’s worth it. Sure help the environment but at the end of the day making skis is not ever going to be a good thing. Half the time renewables are just a huge front unless it’s actually well thought out. Shipping included I guess I missed that. Not half bad, but still sus. On the flip side skis are a ridiculous price now completely outa control. I love blends but 650 for a pair I’ll beat to shit in a year that used to be 500. Same is happening in surfing with wetsuits a flash bomb runs 550 now.
BradFiAusNzCoCaWhere are you located?
I’ve found that new ski market in Europe is marginally cheaper than USA now but USA 2nd hand market is more affordable than Europe’s
SessionIt's almost as if supply chain prices have rose across the board.
nielsgettsLocated in Montana the used market is way better then buying new skis but I have seen it get way more picked through over the years.
animatorSaw a pair at fucking gunstock in New Hampshire of all places last year, dude loved them. Said he had skied a bunch of other “swerve” skis like Blends and Wets and that the 1000 skis were much better. Not a butter/swerve guy so I’m not sure how true it is but he really was gushing about them, they seem pretty cool. Also looked pretty sick in person.
partyandBSTotally agree but the thread is about 1000 skis and there wasn’t a single set in that video.
It is a brand new company and sounds like others alluded to it that there will be something dropped here in the early season??
BradFiAusNzCoCaAh I assumed Europe because of the name.
yeah people try to sell stuff for too much but it never moves. There’s some killer deals if you can wade through the crap
PsychicMigrationStill not sure if that’s worth it. Sure help the environment but at the end of the day making skis is not ever going to be a good thing. Half the time renewables are just a huge front unless it’s actually well thought out. Shipping included I guess I missed that. Not half bad, but still sus. On the flip side skis are a ridiculous price now completely outa control. I love blends but 650 for a pair I’ll beat to shit in a year that used to be 500. Same is happening in surfing with wetsuits a flash bomb runs 550 now.
animatorSaw a pair at fucking gunstock in New Hampshire of all places last year, dude loved them. Said he had skied a bunch of other “swerve” skis like Blends and Wets and that the 1000 skis were much better. Not a butter/swerve guy so I’m not sure how true it is but he really was gushing about them, they seem pretty cool. Also looked pretty sick in person.
steez_apprenticeI think I saw that guy like once, didn't he have like a Victory Lap arsenic jacket too?
ReformedBI've never seen a pair of 1000s outside of instagram
PsychicMigrationYou still have to pay for shipping
Christian_BaleI understand that the price point of 1000 skis is far from ideal considering the financial situation of many skiers, especially for people who are still in high school. Apart from this issue I don't really understand all the negativity I've been seeing, especially considering that most of us have never ridden a pair and can only speculate about their durability and performance.
It's also worth noting that 1000's park skis are $948 CAD ($697 USD) while ON3P's Oscar pro models are $1156 CAD ($850 USD) . So their prices aren't unprecedented, but it's very fair to not be willing to pay that kind of money for a park ski imo.
BradFiAusNzCoCaBeen thinking this for awhile. These ON3P hypebeasts have their blinders on big time. Watch for a straw man “durability” argument incoming. Rich given that part of ON3P “durability” is partially them just working with you to fix something.
Again, not hating on ON3P. Love what they’ve done and are about. But the hypocrisy is ridiculous.
T0AST.On3p = handmade in house and objectively beefier than most any skis
1000 skis/rmu = outsourced construction of skis with unremarkable shapes, profiles, construction, or graphics
I'm not an on3p nutswinger by any means but their durability is pretty easy to steelman.
T0AST.On3p = handmade in house and objectively beefier than most any skis
1000 skis/rmu = outsourced construction of skis with unremarkable shapes, profiles, construction, or graphics
I'm not an on3p nutswinger by any means but their durability is pretty easy to steelman.
BradFiAusNzCoCaÅre Skidfabrik makes some pretty great skis. Their outsourcing is not a sign of a loss in quality.
I think I need to take a step back here though. I haven’t skied the skis and what irks me is that most people with opinions on here haven’t either. So if they turn out to be dogs, I’ll totally accept it.
It just all seems a bit premature. ON3P didn’t invent new materials. Most materials are made by the same few manufacturers in Europe and USA.
Im tired of wondering. I’m going to hit up Bjorn in Evergreen and try them.
**This post was edited on Oct 26th 2022 at 2:10:01am
Christian_BaleI understand that the price point of 1000 skis is far from ideal considering the financial situation of many skiers, especially for people who are still in high school. Apart from this issue I don't really understand all the negativity I've been seeing, especially considering that most of us have never ridden a pair and can only speculate about their durability and performance.
It's also worth noting that 1000's park skis are $948 CAD ($697 USD) while ON3P's Oscar pro models are $1156 CAD ($850 USD) . So their prices aren't unprecedented, but it's very fair to not be willing to pay that kind of money for a park ski imo.
T0AST.On3p uses thicker bases, thicker uhmw sidewalls vs abs used by many other manufacturers, and thicker edges than most.
1000 skis gives you a semi-cap ski with a full edge wrap with thinner bases and edges like most other mass produced skis out there. It doesn't make them bad or low quality, but outsourcing manufacturing limits a company's ability to build a truly unique ski.
@snowfinder has the right idea. 1000 skis is a marketing company while on3p is a manufacturer who built their brand on building skis unlike any others on the market
BradFiAusNzCoCaMoment also uses thinner bases, thinner edges due to weight, etc. and they use ABS sidewall. Would one argue they’re a marketing company?
Im very into ski materials construction and I do approve of the materials ON3P uses but it’s just not that simple
T0AST.Moment doesn't fully wrap edges and they have unique shapes that other factories don't mass produce. Again they produce an objectively unique product and they're able to because they manufacture in house.
When you contract out with a factory and use the same materials and construction as other mass produced skis and your innovation is based on said factory's energy independence, you are indeed a marketing company.
There's nothing wrong with that, it just is what it is.
nielsgettsThey are made in the Åre ski factory in Sweden which is a ski factory that is ran 100% through renewable energy a couple other brands like SGN skis, Stero skis and RMU are also manufactured in that factory.Ok so which brand gets dibs on the best wood for core blanks?
snowfinderon3p - manufacturing company.That's the cool thing about Moment and ON3P. You call them up or walk in and the dude you're dealing with got sawdust in his beard. There's no fingerpointing, no excuses. They make your skis with their bare fucking hands. If you got a problem you don't get some bullshit line.
1000 - marketing company.
BradFiAusNzCoCaWell then 90% of companies, at least, are marketing companies then
jakeordieOk so which brand gets dibs on the best wood for core blanks?
Which brand gets their order first when there's a supply chain issue?
Who's responsible when you have a problem with your skis, the brand or the factory?
That's the cool thing about Moment and ON3P. You call them up or walk in and the dude you're dealing with got sawdust in his beard. There's no fingerpointing, no excuses. They make your skis with their bare fucking hands. If you got a problem you don't get some bullshit line.
This is not hate on 1000, just the difference between a manufacturer and a brand.
jakeordieOk so which brand gets dibs on the best wood for core blanks?
Which brand gets their order first when there's a supply chain issue?
Who's responsible when you have a problem with your skis, the brand or the factory?
That's the cool thing about Moment and ON3P. You call them up or walk in and the dude you're dealing with got sawdust in his beard. There's no fingerpointing, no excuses. They make your skis with their bare fucking hands. If you got a problem you don't get some bullshit line.
This is not hate on 1000, just the difference between a manufacturer and a brand.
