Black Crows Atris always feels like I'm riding the tails

ThaLoraxHello Fellow Atris skiers.

I was stoked to grab a pair of Atris skis last season, but after 10-15 days on them in variable conditions, I keep feeling like I'm always wheelying back on the tails and that the tails feel really short. This can be fun when done intentionally, but it's usually not intentional. Being more of a big mtn skier who learned to ski from the OG Norwegians, I ski very centered or even pretty forward with my weight, so it's not a "don't lean back" thing. They're mounted at recommended if that helps, but I'm afraid to re-mount them more forward and loose the feeling the ski was designed for.

What am I missing here? I'm 5'2" (AKA 1.57m), the skis are 169cm, and are smack in the middle of the sizing of all my other skis, which range from 162cm-174cm.

Anyone else experience this with the Atris? Have any of you tried mounting forward of recommended?

**This thread was edited on Oct 9th 2022 at 12:41:40pm

hoodratz47Remember to squish the grape

JITYA more foreword mount, as well as some stiffer boots would probably help you

hoodratz47Where are your hands when you ski. Are you just inherently skiing backseat? Remember to squish the grape

RIP_leos_shackI imagine the recommended mount is probably around -7, but for a playful ski like that I would go around -4. Definitely worth trying of you feel like you're standing on your tails.

ThaLoraxThis review says to mount it even further back for more "directional" riders like myself. Weird.

https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/2020-2021-black-crows-atris

powpatrolI doubt it, but if you were a pretty big dude for your size then maybe you’d be riding on the soft tails more? I’ve ridden a buddies atris (184) on recommended mount and nothing felt out of the ordinary.

GrapeHunterbold of u to assume im a fellow Atris rider.... i only ride Line Special Blends size 178 very limited edition white

hoodratz47Where are your hands when you ski. Are you just inherently skiing backseat? Remember to squish the grape

PacificRimJobI rode a pair for a whole season back when I worked at Squaw. felt like the tips and tails on these were extra squishy. Might be an older version of them, but I doubt they've done much to change it.

Only used them with demo bindings but even then, I shifted them forward and always rode them about 3 back of true.

Still never felt particularly confident on these.

JAlps-4 back from true.

T0AST.The hwat now

hoodratz47It's an old truck for little kids to get their shins into the front of the boots. It works great

Greg_KYour “out of balance and feeling like you’re in the backseat” makes me wonder if there was a boot or binding model change too when you got these skis? Too much forward lean in new boots especially combined with larger binding delta can cause that “fighting to get out of the backseat” feeling.
Have had binding delta issues myself that were noticeable as soon as I click and the skis always “felt off” as you’re describing.

Different binding delta can cause balance issues and will have an even greater effect on smaller sole length boots like you likely have. Even a low AFD could increase delta and wouldn’t feel solid and secure while skiing.

Are the Atris bindings/current boots different than what you’ve had on previous skis?

ThaLoraxIs that was you did?