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Charge n Butter - What's the best ski? Sego Big Horn 106, DPS Koala, RMU Apostle 3, other??

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tinkytwinky
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Gosh darn it's been years since i've made a thread, sup NS?

Can y'all help me decide on the right ski? I ski in the PNW, i am looking for a ski that caters to freestyle / charging background... I am basically looking for the most chargey free-style planks possible in a 103-108 waist.

At this point in life I stay out of the park, but still find myself buttering / spinning rollers or drops, so would like something that is stiff enough to charge but has enough flexibility in the tips particularly to butter.

I have a blackops gamer 118 and a rustler 10 with shifts, so am looking for something in that mid waist zone. TBH i love the rustlers and am tempted to get another pair with a dedicated downhill binding, but am also attracted to the DPS Koala, Sego Big Horn 106, and the RMU apostle 3. I've also considered the SFB but i think that will be a bit too chattery / noodly, and i don't need quite so much flex in the tip to butter.

Anyone ridden the skis mentioned in my post? Will be riding this ski most days that have less than 10 inches. I prioritize playfulness over stiffness/dampness, can manage my way through chop, but still would like something in that sweet spot of stable but poppy, light, and playful (ahhh the ole oxymoron).

Cheers NS, thanks for taking the time to read my thread, and double thanks for helping me decide.

**This thread was edited on Aug 23rd 2022 at 7:45:04pm
Aug 23 2022 7:42PM
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dant02
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Someone say playgrounds?
Aug 23 2022 8:03PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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I skied a pair of 194 D Senders and used to pop the best nollies ever on them. The 184 of that ski is probably an absolute banger. I bet you'd love the big horns as well since they look pretty solid for everything including charging and freestyle. Another option that comes to mind is the Reckoner 112. Also the ARV 106 since they revamped it is actually a bit stiffer and able to be charged on.
Aug 23 2022 11:20PM
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tinkytwinky
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Thanks man all great suggestions, the d sender might be a bit wide. I’ll check out the ARVs as well.


i am really tempted by the big horns, if they were a bit cheaper I’d probably have bought them by now
BigPurpleSkiSuitI skied a pair of 194 D Senders and used to pop the best nollies ever on them. The 184 of that ski is probably an absolute banger. I bet you'd love the big horns as well since they look pretty solid for everything including charging and freestyle. Another option that comes to mind is the Reckoner 112. Also the ARV 106 since they revamped it is actually a bit stiffer and able to be charged on.
Aug 23 2022 11:52PM
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ASkierNamedJaymz
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Haven’t tried the specific skis you mentioned, although I’d love to check out the RMUs too. But throwing out Moment Deathwish 104s as a potential contender. Might be a bit stiff in the tips, but they charge and still have a playful, freestyle feel.
Aug 24 2022 2:08AM
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TreeJam
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Devastators
Aug 24 2022 9:28AM
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dkels
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tinkytwinkyThanks man all great suggestions, the d sender might be a bit wide. I’ll check out the ARVs as well.


i am really tempted by the big horns, if they were a bit cheaper I’d probably have bought them by now


My recommendation from Fat-ypus would be the M5 in athlete stiffness - although the D-senders are as described above (but understandably out of your waist-width range). The M5s definitely fit your needs almost exactly and I use them as my daily driver in Colorado regardless of conditions - they can charge through chop but are slightly more on the playful side with softer tips and tails. Another suggestion I have would be the ON3P Jeffreys - though these are considerably stiffer and heavier that the Fat-ypus M5s, but their rocker profile makes them relatively playful.
Aug 24 2022 10:49AM
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tinkytwinky
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dkelsMy recommendation from Fat-ypus would be the M5 in athlete stiffness - although the D-senders are as described above (but understandably out of your waist-width range). The M5s definitely fit your needs almost exactly and I use them as my daily driver in Colorado regardless of conditions - they can charge through chop but are slightly more on the playful side with softer tips and tails. Another suggestion I have would be the ON3P Jeffreys - though these are considerably stiffer and heavier that the Fat-ypus M5s, but their rocker profile makes them relatively playful.


I was checking out the M5 when another poster rec'd the d-sender, seems to be sold out. Might be a tough question to answer, but can you quantify the flex of the M5 in the tip / underfoot / tail?

Thanks for the reply! I am close to pulling trigger on a 186 big horn but the m5 is also interesting and i enjoyed the fat-ypus planks i had back in like 2013.

Cheers!
Aug 24 2022 3:33PM
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mikemac
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4frnt devastator is a nice quiver killer - chargey-yet-buttery twin tip that I ski in all kinds of conditions. Damp enough to stomp in powder or arc a carve, playful enough for buttering around rollers and jibbing the spring slush & side booter

12/10 highly recommend
Aug 24 2022 4:41PM
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dkels
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tinkytwinkyI was checking out the M5 when another poster rec'd the d-sender, seems to be sold out. Might be a tough question to answer, but can you quantify the flex of the M5 in the tip / underfoot / tail?

Thanks for the reply! I am close to pulling trigger on a 186 big horn but the m5 is also interesting and i enjoyed the fat-ypus planks i had back in like 2013.

Cheers!


Flex is always tricky for me to describe as it can somewhat vary from person to person but I'll do my best. For reference, I am 6ft 190 lbs and I ski the 188cm M5 in athlete flex. I would say 6/10 in tip/tails and 8/10 underfoot. Again, they actually aren't THAT stiff, quite a bit softer than the D-Senders, but I do not have chatter issues with them and greatly appreciate their ~medium flex pattern for playful maneuvers.
Aug 24 2022 4:49PM
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dkels
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dkelsFlex is always tricky for me to describe as it can somewhat vary from person to person but I'll do my best. For reference, I am 6ft 190 lbs and I ski the 188cm M5 in athlete flex. I would say 6/10 in tip/tails and 8/10 underfoot. Again, they actually aren't THAT stiff, quite a bit softer than the D-Senders, but I do not have chatter issues with them and greatly appreciate their ~medium flex pattern for playful maneuvers.


Also the M5 should be back in stock this fall if it really does catch your interest. In fact the owner might actually have them fresh from the factory and just hasn't updated the website yet. Shoot them an email and he'll (Jared) be happy to go in to as much detail with you as you want and even give you a call on the phone. SUPER cool guy and great company.
Aug 24 2022 4:51PM
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tinkytwinky
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dkelsFlex is always tricky for me to describe as it can somewhat vary from person to person but I'll do my best. For reference, I am 6ft 190 lbs and I ski the 188cm M5 in athlete flex. I would say 6/10 in tip/tails and 8/10 underfoot. Again, they actually aren't THAT stiff, quite a bit softer than the D-Senders, but I do not have chatter issues with them and greatly appreciate their ~medium flex pattern for playful maneuvers.

Thanks really appreciate it, flex patter sounds pretty up my alley. I just ended up chatting with some of the dudes at Sego on pricing, their website wasn't reflecting actual price, just took home a pair of 187 Sego big horns for $590, my main holdback there was the price.

Thanks all for the advice, really appreciate everyone's input, hope you all have a baller $eason.
Aug 24 2022 5:35PM
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deelonmusk
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Definitely check out the Line Blade Optic 104.
Aug 25 2022 5:19PM
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BigMelch
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K2 reckoner 102 has super playful tips and tails but has a super stiff underfoot. Definitely check them out even though they’re a tiny bit skinnier than you wanted
Aug 26 2022 12:24PM
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