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What’s up fellas it’s commercial time. I got some good homies of mine starting out a new ski company and ngl the skis they’re making are sick, they come in a 106 underfoot ski and they’re gonna come in a 176 and 184 length.
“It’s designed like a slalom ski under foot with a soft flexible tip and tail, this ski is fast and stable, yet remains playful when skiing in powder or buttering around the mountain”
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“the design extends the life of the ski by creating two points of contact to minimize delamination of the ski from impacts such as a tree or a rail in the park.”
I got to try them out yesterday and I can confirm they’re a hard charging ski that also has a butterability that can hold up in the park. Drop is this Friday, don’t miss out on a pair!
Mackaroni_spaceWhat’s up fellas it’s commercial time. I got some good homies of mine starting out a new ski company and ngl the skis they’re making are sick, they come in a 106 underfoot ski and they’re gonna come in a 176 and 184 length.
“It’s designed like a slalom ski under foot with a soft flexible tip and tail, this ski is fast and stable, yet remains playful when skiing in powder or buttering around the mountain”
—
“the design extends the life of the ski by creating two points of contact to minimize delamination of the ski from impacts such as a tree or a rail in the park.”
I got to try them out yesterday and I can confirm they’re a hard charging ski that also has a butterability that can hold up in the park. Drop is this Friday, don’t miss out on a pair!
I dont get what they're trying to say with that line about the design extending the life of the ski with having two points of contact. They are just describing a very very very common design of ski
maaatttI dont get what they're trying to say with that line about the design extending the life of the ski with having two points of contact. They are just describing a very very very common design of ski
Two points of contact meaning when you ski into something head on according to their Instagram
These are fucking wild! Big ups to whoever’s involved putting in the time money and effort. I’m hella stoked to see where this leads, and maybe one day get my hands on a pair!
maaatttI dont get what they're trying to say with that line about the design extending the life of the ski with having two points of contact. They are just describing a very very very common design of ski
Its basic physics, two points of contact distribute the blow a little more evenly across the width of the ski ideally reducing delamination.
to try to prevent something like this from happening.
**This post was edited on May 1st 2022 at 11:34:30pm
Lukas17Its basic physics, two points of contact distribute the blow a little more evenly across the width of the ski ideally reducing delamination.
to try to prevent something like this from happening.
**This post was edited on May 1st 2022 at 11:34:30pm
This is literally not basic physics. Just a poor application and understanding of how shit works in the construction spectrum of things as well as why skis delaminate in the first place. Hate to shit on the little guy but it doesn’t take much of a brain to figure out that No one skis into a wall coming in exactly perpendicular. Delam is usually due to skis landing and flattening out or doing hella nosebutters or whatever. As well as a poor bond job in the ski / how the extremities are designed. Skis that have the wood go all the way to the very end of the tip usually like to delam more, which you showed in that picture.
If you catch your tail at the base of a rail and eat shit and put a nasty impact on it, you really think you’re gonna hit perpendicular everytime 😭😭😭 just doesn’t make sense. If anything you’ll put all the pressure in one spot and produce the opposite effect.
also with this shape you have a greater circumference therefore greater chance for shit to go wrong and bonding epoxies to give out and let the delam process begin.
but in the end I think this definitely is not a way to solve delam, just an easier way to catch in the snow while doing a nollie 1 or some shit. The solution to delam is make your tips/tails right… take on3p for example.
Also I don’t understand how the ski can only have soft flex in a certain area of the tip but not the extremity of it? Probably not How it is realistically but my two cents would be it’s just not the right way to illustrate the flex. Maybe describe where it feels like a “hinge point” is.
Other than that I like the idea of these guys challenging the norm and bringing skis to the table for a low price as well. Just throwing well justified suggestions/opinions out there to help improve.
Also one more thing I’ll add I like how the dimensions on these bad boys are. Riding symmetrical skis switch rocks so if your tail is 5mm skinnier than your tip you likely won’t notice and it’ll be more fun than riding a ski switch with a way skinnier tail than tip. 19-22oz triax fiberglass has been tried and tested true, I think those ingredients mixed with a sintered base will produce a recipe for success in terms of performance and durability. Very Interested to see where these skis head in the future.
weastcoatThis is literally not basic physics. Just a poor application and understanding of how shit works in the construction spectrum of things as well as why skis delaminate in the first place. Hate to shit on the little guy but it doesn’t take much of a brain to figure out that No one skis into a wall coming in exactly perpendicular. Delam is usually due to skis landing and flattening out or doing hella nosebutters or whatever. As well as a poor bond job in the ski / how the extremities are designed. Skis that have the wood go all the way to the very end of the tip usually like to delam more, which you showed in that picture.
If you catch your tail at the base of a rail and eat shit and put a nasty impact on it, you really think you’re gonna hit perpendicular everytime 😭😭😭 just doesn’t make sense. If anything you’ll put all the pressure in one spot and produce the opposite effect.
also with this shape you have a greater circumference therefore greater chance for shit to go wrong and bonding epoxies to give out and let the delam process begin.
but in the end I think this definitely is not a way to solve delam, just an easier way to catch in the snow while doing a nollie 1 or some shit. The solution to delam is make your tips/tails right… take on3p for example.
Trying to prevent delam is only one aspect of why we chose this shape, it also makes finding grabs super easy and is a way to be unique in a industry of a lot of the same shit. Byproducts of the design also happen to be slightly less swing weight, and it allowed us to make a larger zone in the tip and tail to butter on without the ski feeling too long. If in the end it isn't able to do as much as we hoped in terms of delam, it atleast wont be worse than anything else on the market. Tip/tail shape aside, our ski is built to have an aggressive carving experience and is able to hold its own at high speeds and through technical lines with a decent amount of camber and shorter turning radius, all while being able to swerve and butter at low speeds due to our material choices/placement, flex pattern, and big butter contact spots. And to the point about nollies, we have had no problems personally or with anyone demoing with catching nose/tail on any butters ollies/nollies and they are surprisingly fun and nimble enough to hop around on the tips and tails. Thanks for your initial thoughts on our shape, any criticism is good as we want the community to be involved in the process! If you have any other questions or concerns feel free to shoot em my way.
weastcoatAlso I don’t understand how the ski can only have soft flex in a certain area of the tip but not the extremity of it? Probably not How it is realistically but my two cents would be it’s just not the right way to illustrate the flex. Maybe describe where it feels like a “hinge point” is.
Other than that I like the idea of these guys challenging the norm and bringing skis to the table for a low price as well. Just throwing well justified suggestions/opinions out there to help improve.
This graphic is more for people who don't understand how a ski can have a varying flex pattern, the softness does realistically extend through the end of the ski.
weastcoatThis is literally not basic physics. Just a poor application and understanding of how shit works in the construction spectrum of things as well as why skis delaminate in the first place. Hate to shit on the little guy but it doesn’t take much of a brain to figure out that No one skis into a wall coming in exactly perpendicular. Delam is usually due to skis landing and flattening out or doing hella nosebutters or whatever. As well as a poor bond job in the ski / how the extremities are designed. Skis that have the wood go all the way to the very end of the tip usually like to delam more, which you showed in that picture.
If you catch your tail at the base of a rail and eat shit and put a nasty impact on it, you really think you’re gonna hit perpendicular everytime 😭😭😭 just doesn’t make sense. If anything you’ll put all the pressure in one spot and produce the opposite effect.
also with this shape you have a greater circumference therefore greater chance for shit to go wrong and bonding epoxies to give out and let the delam process begin.
but in the end I think this definitely is not a way to solve delam, just an easier way to catch in the snow while doing a nollie 1 or some shit. The solution to delam is make your tips/tails right… take on3p for example.
Really good insight! I think the tip and tail design is a unique/cool approach to an issue nearly all of us face with our skis. Im not saying it is the fix all approach, however in a day and age where nearly every ski tip looks the same it stands out. For me this is the kind of thing that challenges and brings excitement to the ski design spectrum.
These are my ON3Ps, they're by far the most bulletproof ski I have ever owned but I still face small delams in the tips after a season. At the end of the day there isn't a perfect tip and tail for every possible impact, but its fun to push boundaries and challenge norms.
Lukas17Really good insight! I think the tip and tail design is a unique/cool approach to an issue nearly all of us face with our skis. Im not saying it is the fix all approach, however in a day and age where nearly every ski tip looks the same it stands out. For me this is the kind of thing that challenges and brings excitement to the ski design spectrum.
These are my ON3Ps, they're by far the most bulletproof ski I have ever owned but I still face small delams in the tips after a season. At the end of the day there isn't a perfect tip and tail for every possible impact, but its fun to push boundaries and challenge norms.
I wouldn’t even consider that delam tbh. The pic I quoted is delam lol. And agreed I like seeing different shit being tried at least.
weastcoatAlso one more thing I’ll add I like how the dimensions on these bad boys are. Riding symmetrical skis switch rocks so if your tail is 5mm skinnier than your tip you likely won’t notice and it’ll be more fun than riding a ski switch with a way skinnier tail than tip. 19-22oz triax fiberglass has been tried and tested true, I think those ingredients mixed with a sintered base will produce a recipe for success in terms of performance and durability. Very Interested to see where these skis head in the future.
This is super fascinating. Can’t wait for you guys to drop more content on your Instagram and learn more about the specifics of the skis, they look really rad and different. I know personally I’m a sucker for weird tip and tail designs.
We have our factory here for prototyping, customs, and limited runs on less popular sizes. We also have an OEM partner so we can make a bigger order possible, and no it’s not gp87 haha.
SKIIIIANWe have our factory here for prototyping, customs, and limited runs on less popular sizes. We also have an OEM partner so we can make a bigger order possible, and no it’s not gp87 haha.
So where are they made? Also can you explain what the swerve tech is?
surprisingly hard to get answers when this is an ad..
These look tight AF.
Right now there are a lot of brands making cookie cutter skis and imo we need indie companies to really shake things up the way Vishnu did.
Yo these are sick and honestly your going in the right direction but I feel like a ski targeted for this type of rideing would be a lot more fun if it was more like a 100 underfoot. It just seems like this ski is targeted for carving and swerving park and both of those would benefit being narrower.
There is literally nothing wrong with Chinese skis. That is not likely what these are (like 99% of OEMs that will work at low volume are not based in china) and you are just trying to troll and I fell for it.
Even if they were made in china, the quality comes from the engineering, design and specs.
