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CaseyI think we should all calm down and take a minute. This isn’t a contest to prove who is better or anything like that. There is a long history that informs people’s experiences and honestly it’s pretty bitter and negative against indigenous people with few exceptions. I think it’s important to realize and understand who’s land you’re occupying- your house and mine was built on a parcel of land that was occupied for 10,000 years prior to our ancestors arrival so I don’t think it’s too much to ask to show a little respect.
coronaPro tip for ski companies looking to use indigenous artwork on their skis: just hire an indigenous artist. Not that hard.
cobra_commanderOccupied by whom? There is a large misconception that prior to white settlement North America was a bunch of happily cohabitating tribes which got along. This isn’t accurate there was constant warfare just like everywhere else in the world prior to 1900. Most tribes had only been living in their ‘ancestral homelands’ for one to three generations before American settlement. In a similar fashion they used overwhelming violence and economic warfare to conquer lands and enslave other people. Actions which would hardly stand up to the court of modern opinion.
If you live on historically Snoqualmie territory as many in western wa do, their history is particularly violent as they were basically the bully in WA and viewed white settlers as useful ally’s to further their war against other tribes, particularly the Yakama.
fun fact of the day. Let’s stop pretending white people have some sort of monopoly on oppressive violence to exploit others. Just been better at it in more recent history.
CaseyI hate this type of argument because it’s like now I have to list 274 things that the US did terribly wrong in settling North America and all the bad shit that happened but I’m too lazy. I understand the complexities of tribal life pre European contact I am not an expert but I took a couple of Native American history classes back in the day at WSU. I’m not a moron.
DeadBI'm pretty sure you still don't know as much as I do on the subject. My great great grandfather had many relations with native American women so I know some first hand account stories.on top of this I'm pretty much aceing social studies right now 96%. I got 100 percent on a sideshow I made about the Cherokee tribe.
CaseyThe reason no one asks for your opinion is because they don’t want to hear it or care about what you have to say. I was responding to someone that is not you it doesn’t matter what you think.
DeadBDid it go right over your head that I had nothing to add to the conversation and was only mocking you?
DeadBDid it go right over your head that I had nothing to add to the conversation and was only mocking you?
CaseyIt absolutely did. I’ll take my medicine on that one I was drunk AF
Biffbarf@bergobeanz thoughts?
FruitBootProok real shit:
by this logic, every Westerner who has made art inspired by Asian, Indian, or Middle Eastern culture (samurai, Hinduism, etc) is appropriating and should be cancelled.
and vice versa--every non-Western artist who has ever made anything inspired by Western culture (Medieval/Dark Ages, hippies, disco, hip-hop, etc etc) is appropriating and should be cancelled.
like cmon, it's not that deep y'all. there are more important things to be outraged about.
snowfindersoooo vishnu changing their name before the outrage comes?
FruitBootProok real shit:
by this logic, every Westerner who has made art inspired by Asian, Indian, or Middle Eastern culture (samurai, Hinduism, etc) is appropriating and should be cancelled.
and vice versa--every non-Western artist who has ever made anything inspired by Western culture (Medieval/Dark Ages, hippies, disco, hip-hop, etc etc) is appropriating and should be cancelled.
like cmon, it's not that deep y'all. there are more important things to be outraged about.
FruitBootProok real shit:
by this logic, every Westerner who has made art inspired by Asian, Indian, or Middle Eastern culture (samurai, Hinduism, etc) is appropriating and should be cancelled.
and vice versa--every non-Western artist who has ever made anything inspired by Western culture (Medieval/Dark Ages, hippies, disco, hip-hop, etc etc) is appropriating and should be cancelled.
like cmon, it's not that deep y'all. there are more important things to be outraged about.
FruitBootProThey addressed this in another thread--
Emmet named the brand Vishnu out of inspiration and respect.
Also, he has talked to many Hindus about it and none of them have considered the brand name Vishnu offensive, as it does not depict the god in a derogatory way.
hunternay_10Vishnu is also so niche that I doubt people who actually care would ever find it
FruitBootProand Folsom isn't?
hunternay_10They’re obviously much larger than Vishnu currently if they’re supplying skis to the xgames and able to put out 6 different “heritage” topsheets compared Vishnu only running out of stock by December every year. However, that might just be a testimony to Emmett’s product bc those shits bang
SessionYou don't have to be a big company to have a lot of graphic options.
hunternay_10My main point was more about them supplying to the x games
Farmville420The only one I could see being offensive is Hudson Bay blanket top sheet since those blankets (intentional or not) killed a bunch of people, so like yeah that’s kind of a weird thing to put on a ski. Like I guess it’s kinda like putting a truck driver that crashed and killed people on a top sheet. Did he intentionally kill a bunch of pedestrians? Idk but why is he on a top sheet people died at the hands of his actions. Just the way I see it
coronaI don't think there's any evidence those blankets were used as purposeful vectors of disease. I see zero issue with that design, other than maybe The Bay tries to sue them (they still sell the blanket).
arnie_grapereading this thread made me realize how lucky i am to not be as dumb as all of you water heads
hunternay_10And last time I checked, nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything. So again why can’t we just buy what we like and not buy what we don’t.
**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2022 at 12:30:48am
milotv34yea dumbass nobodies saying you cant just buy what you like and not buy what you dont like, the issue is some people are selling stuff they probably shouldnt be selling
