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SessionThe gist.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca7itfUlUjB/
BiffbarfSmells like recreational outrage from people who have pronouns in their bio and unironically use the term 'problematic'
CaseyCome on man. You can’t have white people replicating Indian artwork on a top sheet that is pretty disrespectful.
BiffbarfDo you have any pics?
There has been kanji, koi fish, dreamcatchers, graffiti, rasta themes, pnw native style artwork, etc on skis forever and nobody bats an eye. What made these bad?
hi_vis360just because something was acceptable in the past doesn't mean it should be acceptable today, like 60 or 70 years ago it was totally fine to just be openly racist lol
BiffbarfDo you have any pics?
There has been kanji, koi fish, dreamcatchers, graffiti, rasta themes, pnw native style artwork, etc on skis forever and nobody bats an eye. What made these bad?
SessionI'm sure she just found the smallest builder around for the clout
BiffbarfI still think those graphics are fine? They look cool af. Old rossi's with the koi, old obsethds with the totems and old volkls with kanji was rad af and didn't hurt anyone. They're not putting sambo on the damn things ffs
BiffbarfDo you have any pics?
There has been kanji, koi fish, dreamcatchers, graffiti, rasta themes, pnw native style artwork, etc on skis forever and nobody bats an eye. What made these bad?
CaseyNo idea. I’d like to see them and learn what the controversy is but just saying in general if you want some native artwork it’s a bad look to fake it.
BiffbarfHow do you do art of a style you enjoy without 'faking it'? I don't understand. Can only certain cultures make certain art? That's some segregationist ish that I'm not about tbh
CaseyCome on man. You can’t have white people replicating Indian artwork on a top sheet that is pretty disrespectful.
MaimHelpIt’s like saying henrik can’t have dreads and can’t wear a durag.
MaimHelpGuarantee these indigenous mfs wouldn’t give a fuck.
who fucking cares
MaimHelpThese pronoun idiots get sensation from bitching about every thing.
Christian_BaleYou're aware that we all use pronouns, right
MaimHelpI’m not a fucking moron.
I bet you have em in your insta bio
IsaacNW82Lots of hearsay going on here, Nahanni's (who is in fact Native btw) IG story isn't up anymore but this is the gist of it (from memory, take the details with a grain of salt):
She was doing some type of project (school maybe?) about indigenous graphics and the ski industry and came across a ton of Folsom graphics labelled "cultural" like a dream catcher. She asked if the artist was indigenous in an IG comment and they DM'd her basically saying this should be an email and that she was cyber-bullying them. So, she deleted the comments and sent them an email asking the same question.
They replied super defensive, indicated they don't care what ethnicity makes their graphics (and implied it was wrong for Nahanni to ask), the graphics where legally Folsom's IP, there was a hang up about a ski graphic based off the Hudson Bay Blanket design. Apparently, Folsom was defending it saying an employee from upstate NY came up with the idea, and Nahanni replied saying that the Blanket was used to intentionally spread disease to Natives in Canada, and gave them a few book titles about the matter.
I personally have never heard about the Hudson bay Blanket before but here's an article about its complicated history if anyone is interested:
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/unreserved/uncovering-the-complicated-history-of-blankets-in-indigenous-communities-1.5264926/the-complicated-history-of-the-hudson-s-bay-point-blanket-1.5272430
I don't remember if Folsom responded or not but they did block her on IG and removed the graphics from their website, which prompted her posting about this publicly. She said she doesn't like cancel culture and didn't think she'd go after someone like this but after their interaction she thought it was justified.
DeadBI always take the high road in situations like these and spread awareness to blatant racism. What folsom skis did is tone deaf and depriving to indigenous culture and people's. I'm appalled that we live in a society where this can be passed off as the status quo and am so proud of all the brothers and sisters who called this company out on its appropriation of cultural artwork. Which BTW was STOLEN from indigenous artists who struggle to make a living... Shocked rn I'm at a loss for words.
**This post was edited on Mar 11th 2022 at 10:59:40pm
DeadBI always take the high road in situations like these and spread awareness to blatant racism. What folsom skis did is tone deaf and depriving to indigenous culture and people's. I'm appalled that we live in a society where this can be passed off as the status quo and am so proud of all the brothers and sisters who called this company out on its appropriation of cultural artwork. Which BTW was STOLEN from indigenous artists who struggle to make a living... Shocked rn I'm at a loss for words.
**This post was edited on Mar 11th 2022 at 10:59:40pm
hi_vis360I think making a ski in 2022 with indigenous symbols on it or whatever is pretty tone deaf. It's a wack thing to do and Folsom should probably know better than to do that.
At the same time, the people who are acting like they are saving the world by getting outraged over this are super, super obnoxious. Ski activists like to speak out about oppression, racism, sexism, and all the rest of it to try to make themselves feel better about their extremely privileged lifestyles. IMO most of them aren't doing it to benefit the communities that they're speaking out on behalf of, they're doing it to make themselves look better.
If you got a problem with it, just don't buy Folsoms, and donate to indigenous charities. All of these activist "ski bums" can definitely afford it.
hunternay_10Genuine question. Is the issue that they plagiarized (which is obviously wrong, we learned it In school) or that a white person made a Native American design, or a combo of both? I’m so confused. Why can’t we just buy shit we like and not buy shit we don’t like.
KCoCMwow @BigmoneyMatt i knew you were a good guy deep down 😂😂😂
MaimHelpI’m not a fucking moron.
I bet you have em in your insta bio
DeadBAre you retarded or what?
ColoradoDogfartfunny that you make an argument based on people being tone-deaf but then blatantly use the R-word as an insult to another person and using it as a slur in a sense, nice job buddy!!!!!!
DeadBAre you retarded or what? you need a lesson in ethics little man. " I just wanna buy what I like" okay retard go buy some heroin then, clearly you've done so much of it that your frontal lobe is severely damaged, you get confused over basic ethics. You really think that some belegana can just swoop in and make money off of native culture and ancestry, whites have already taken so much.
MoneyMakerMikePlease do not use the r slur
DeadBMind ur own business bro wasnt even talking 2 u
ColoradoDogfartyour a fucking clown dude, dont say somebody's tone deaf then use the r word as a slur. people like you who say shit like that and dehumanize others by saying it in a derogatory manner are the scums of the earth
DeadBI always take the high road in situations like these and spread awareness to blatant racism. What folsom skis did is tone deaf and depriving to indigenous culture and people's. I'm appalled that we live in a society where this can be passed off as the status quo and am so proud of all the brothers and sisters who called this company out on its appropriation of cultural artwork. Which BTW was STOLEN from indigenous artists who struggle to make a living... Shocked rn I'm at a loss for words.
**This post was edited on Mar 11th 2022 at 10:59:40pm
Chunder_KhatYou're saying Folsom actually stole the designs they used?
DeadBAre you retarded or what? you need a lesson in ethics little man. " I just wanna buy what I like" okay retard go buy some heroin then, clearly you've done so much of it that your frontal lobe is severely damaged, you get confused over basic ethics. You really think that some belegana can just swoop in and make money off of native culture and ancestry, whites have already taken so much.
DeadB"people like you who say shit like that and dehumanize others by saying it in a derogatory manner are the scums of the earth"
Guess who failed english... This guyyyy. Why don't you mind ur own business my guy, I'm allowed to say what I want because that is my right as a human, you telling me I can't is what is dehumanizing.
DeadBFolsom quite literally stole them, copy and paste. Its an atrocity bro, I think folsom skis might be retards or siomething
hunternay_10Bro what, I was trying to clarify the issue and educate myself. Leave it to the libtards to call someone trying to understand and get it a bigoted dumbass
