I'm Russian. And I'm sorry!!!

*you can’t fire blindly

It's all so sad. I symbolically stand with the people of Ukraine.

And one more thing. I really didn’t get your opinion. Is it better to rape, murder and loot civilian or go to jail for at max 15 years?

How can anyone rely on someone’s opinion, who thinks that executing someone is better than denying the order and spend next 15 years in prison but stay a human?!

spintricksNo, it is not true. U are talking idealistic, far from real unperfect world.

Those russian soldiers mostly are kids, 18-24 year, they dont know life, and they have no choice - to serve or to get no future in russia, maybe even put in jail. Believe me, it is mostly like when people were kept in german concentration camps during WW2, they all knew - germans soldiers will kill them, but each one person hoped somehow he'll make it through if he stays low. It is phycology.

People are affraid to act if they cant see real alternative perspective.

Not every soldier of cource, there are dogs of war on each side, they like death , destraction, "born to kill" ( remember full metal jacket and what did usa troops did to vietnam ? ) - those persons are totally deserve to be judged.

Were there ANY war on planet Earth without rapes, murders, executions, loots, civillian death? No.
Its just how any war goes. It lights up the evilest and baddest persons of mankind.

My point is - Im for peace. And all people around me for peace too.
I have no hate for my neighbors ( my granddad was from ukraine ) and never had.

I dont even know why modern people are still live in the past and continue to settle scores 100 year old, continue hate each other instead of building new world, economy and win-win business together.

severniytell me more that they had the orders to rape women, torture and execute unarmed civilians, loot houses?

I assume you are russian, so have you read https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/25/nobody-understood-what-was-happening ?
It’s an interview of a professional gunner, someone knows how to use maps to make correct calculations to hit the target. And he said - “we didn’t know where we were firing, it’s all order”. But I think it’s a total bullshit. You can fire blindly, because every shot is calculated. So no, russian soldiers aren’t victims. They are invaders and must be treated correspondingly

And one more question - do you deny the filmed outcomes of war crimes committed by russian soldiers?

Humor will save the world.

DominatorJacquesIt's all so sad. I symbolically stand with the people of Ukraine.

spintricksHumor will save the world.

The gloves are off, baby!

You didnt get what im sayin.

Those bastards who rapes women, kill and loot - would not go to jail because they would not refuce to kill anyway, they will get promotion and money.

So you offers to put in the jail for 15 year all other guys! who serves now as soldiers not because they enjoing it.

You will just make it all only easier for a Bad Guys. All others will be in prison. And real bad guys will continue top rape and kill.

severniyAnd one more thing. I really didn’t get your opinion. Is it better to rape, murder and loot civilian or go to jail for at max 15 years?

How can anyone rely on someone’s opinion, who thinks that executing someone is better than denying the order and spend next 15 years in prison but stay a human?!

spintricksWere there ANY war on planet Earth without rapes, murders, executions, loots, civillian death? No.
Its just how any war goes. It lights up the evilest and baddest persons of mankind.

My point is - Im for peace. And all people around me for peace too.
I have no hate for my neighbors ( my granddad was from ukraine ) and never had.

I dont even know why modern people are still live in the past and continue to settle scores 100 year old, continue hate each other instead of building new world, economy and win-win business together.

Idk why y'all r downvoting this guy. Google list of War crimes. Wikipedia has a list of every documented crime in every war in the past century and more. I say documented because there's so much that gets covered up by perpetrators.

Shit it's infuriating to read about the heinous war crimes American soldiers have committed. Many are beyond ruthless. All armies do it. The issue with Russia that I have is the targeting with artillery and air strikes. The war crimes by indivual soldiers really can't be reflected on a country unless it was approved by leadership to commit them. Don't agree with me, then there is a double standard that's obvious and favors the US and nato countries. If we are to punish a country for individual actions then it needs to be equitable in punishment for everyone.

spintricksWere there ANY war on planet Earth without rapes, murders, executions, loots, civillian death? No.
Its just how any war goes. It lights up the evilest and baddest persons of mankind.

My point is - Im for peace. And all people around me for peace too.
I have no hate for my neighbors ( my granddad was from ukraine ) and never had.

I dont even know why modern people are still live in the past and continue to settle scores 100 year old, continue hate each other instead of building new world, economy and win-win business together.

Your point is pointless. I bet all the soldiers, that came to my land, were also for peace.

I have only one request for you. Please, never ever cross the borders of your country. Live in russia and enjoy putin's regime, as you've enjoyed it for the last 20 years. Have a good time in russia.

HypeBeastIdk why y'all r downvoting this guy. Google list of War crimes. Wikipedia has a list of every documented crime in every war in the past century and more. I say documented because there's so much that gets covered up by perpetrators.

Shit it's infuriating to read about the heinous war crimes American soldiers have committed. Many are beyond ruthless. All armies do it. The issue with Russia that I have is the targeting with artillery and air strikes. The war crimes by indivual soldiers really can't be reflected on a country unless it was approved by leadership to commit them. Don't agree with me, then there is a double standard that's obvious and favors the US and nato countries. If we are to punish a country for individual actions then it needs to be equitable in punishment for everyone.

What about the wives of those innocent russian soldiers, who executed civilians, raped women and looted? Have you heard the intercepted calls yet? They (wives) were happy with jewelry, gadgets and even shoes (taken from the body of a killed boy). Are they also victims of war? Should they be punished?

HypeBeastIdk why y'all r downvoting this guy. Google list of War crimes. Wikipedia has a list of every documented crime in every war in the past century and more. I say documented because there's so much that gets covered up by perpetrators.

Shit it's infuriating to read about the heinous war crimes American soldiers have committed. Many are beyond ruthless. All armies do it. The issue with Russia that I have is the targeting with artillery and air strikes. The war crimes by indivual soldiers really can't be reflected on a country unless it was approved by leadership to commit them. Don't agree with me, then there is a double standard that's obvious and favors the US and nato countries. If we are to punish a country for individual actions then it needs to be equitable in punishment for everyone.

How would you punish regular russians - https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb20ZgytCIm

**This post was edited on Apr 4th 2022 at 6:49:31am

severniyWhat about the wives of those innocent russian soldiers, who executed civilians, raped women and looted? Have you heard the intercepted calls yet? They (wives) were happy with jewelry, gadgets and even shoes (taken from the body of a killed boy). Are they also victims of war? Should they be punished?

Oh certainly all those responsible should be punished. You missed my point entirely.

And that is a grown's man point of view.

HypeBeastIdk why y'all r downvoting this guy. Google list of War crimes. Wikipedia has a list of every documented crime in every war in the past century and more. I say documented because there's so much that gets covered up by perpetrators.

Shit it's infuriating to read about the heinous war crimes American soldiers have committed. Many are beyond ruthless. All armies do it. The issue with Russia that I have is the targeting with artillery and air strikes. The war crimes by indivual soldiers really can't be reflected on a country unless it was approved by leadership to commit them. Don't agree with me, then there is a double standard that's obvious and favors the US and nato countries. If we are to punish a country for individual actions then it needs to be equitable in punishment for everyone.

severniyWhat about the wives of those innocent russian soldiers, who executed civilians, raped women and looted? Have you heard the intercepted calls yet? They (wives) were happy with jewelry, gadgets and even shoes (taken from the body of a killed boy). Are they also victims of war? Should they be punished?

HypeBeastOh certainly all those responsible should be punished. You missed my point entirely.

Ran out of time to edit but the fact that Russia is blatantly denying allegations and not punishing those involved makes them available to be punished as a country. Had Russia denounced the killings and if the order didn’t come from high command as an official order, then it would be considered war crimes by individuals or groups, not an entire nation. However a double standard clearly exists in terms of punishment. The news and world are calling for the Russian government as a whole to be held accountable for this act. They certainly should be punished for this war in general and for any action resulting in civilian deaths that was ordered by high command. The self directed actions of individual regiments can't be broadened. While heinous and sickening this Ukraine war is, if you look through previous patterns of war crimes you will see (take USA for example) plenty of equal or worse atrocities that were not only denied but also covered up. All countries have this history. Our punishment as a country we received from international war courts and country sanctions? Absolutely fucking nothing. Why? Because people need us for their own security and wouldn't never risk that type of alliance.

See for example https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%E1%BB%B9_Lai_massacre

But to answer your question another way, yes anyone involved in this crime should be executed and if torture was culturally accepted I'd add that to the punishment too.

This fucking guy. Oh my God is he infuriating to listen to. Russia still denying and blaming on Ukraine.

....because Russia killed all the eyewitness. Jesus.

"saved"




Zelensky had a fucking awesome address at the UN security council and also called them out for being a useless organization. What's the point of international laws if we don't enforce them. What's the point of the council if we allow those like Russia to remain on it with leadership positions.