Noob question: Fulltilts

Tf did you size up for if they fit fine before. Size down you'll get more out of the boot

MaimHelpTf did you size up for if they fit fine before. Size down you'll get more out of the boot

I sized up cuz the toes were feeling cramped

PimpChimpinI sized up cuz the toes were feeling cramped

That's how it should be, You'll lose the shinbang most likely if you size back down.


Not many people realize that boots are supposed to as tight as they can get without injuring your foot.

MaimHelpThat's how it should be, You'll lose the shinbang most likely if you size back down.


Not many people realize that boots are supposed to as tight as they can get without injuring your foot.

Yeah but at what point are the toes too cramped you think?

PimpChimpinYeah but at what point are the toes too cramped you think?

When they break

PimpChimpinYeah but at what point are the toes too cramped you think?

I was running boots that were too small for me for 3 seasons before the beginning of this year. reason I ended up sizing up was cuz i was having lasting loss of sensation in the tips of my big toes and it wasnt from cold.

cut your toenails off

PimpChimpinYeah but at what point are the toes too cramped you think?

dognutscut your toenails off

Bite them off for me like your profile picture

PimpChimpinYeah but at what point are the toes too cramped you think?

In the right size boot, you toes will touch the front. It's not a sneaker.

You need to get good, aftermarket footbeds to hold your foot in place inside the shell. After that, you either won't feel the front at all or the boot can be properly lengthened for you.

"Going up a size" is exactly how you get shinbang and all other sorts of non-fixable problems.

onenerdykidIn the right size boot, you toes will touch the front. It's not a sneaker.

You need to get good, aftermarket footbeds to hold your foot in place inside the shell. After that, you either won't feel the front at all or the boot can be properly lengthened for you.

"Going up a size" is exactly how you get shinbang and all other sorts of non-fixable problems.

Yes, and in the smaller size my toes were practically curled up. The “up one size” size has my toes touching the toe of the boot

PimpChimpinYes, and in the smaller size my toes were practically curled up. The “up one size” size has my toes touching the toe of the boot

Let's do this test:


Remove the liner from the shell
Step into the shell with a thin ski sock on
Slide your foot to the front so your toes just barely touch
Measure the space behind your heel

1cm = high performance fit. I do not suggest going down this road unless you are 100% sure of what you need and/or have a legit boot-fitter (not a boot seller). This fit will most likely feel too short & uncomfortable out of the box and therefore need some stretching & grinding in order to feel comfortable.

2cm = normal fit. I suggest this size if you do not know what you need. It will be snug for most people (provided the shape & volume of the shell is also the right thing for you).

3cm = problematically too big. Never buy a boot with this shell fit.

And no matter what size you end up going with, always get an aftermarket footbed. A footbed creates the proper interface between your flexible foot and the rigid shell so that your foot is held in a comfortable, efficient position. Without a footbed, your foot will slide around causing fit issues, discomfort, and inefficient skiing. Without one, are wasting your time worrying about what boot to get.

onenerdykidLet's do this test:


Remove the liner from the shell
Step into the shell with a thin ski sock on
Slide your foot to the front so your toes just barely touch
Measure the space behind your heel

1cm = high performance fit. I do not suggest going down this road unless you are 100% sure of what you need and/or have a legit boot-fitter (not a boot seller). This fit will most likely feel too short & uncomfortable out of the box and therefore need some stretching & grinding in order to feel comfortable.

2cm = normal fit. I suggest this size if you do not know what you need. It will be snug for most people (provided the shape & volume of the shell is also the right thing for you).

3cm = problematically too big. Never buy a boot with this shell fit.

And no matter what size you end up going with, always get an aftermarket footbed. A footbed creates the proper interface between your flexible foot and the rigid shell so that your foot is held in a comfortable, efficient position. Without a footbed, your foot will slide around causing fit issues, discomfort, and inefficient skiing. Without one, are wasting your time worrying about what boot to get.

Take em to school Matt

onenerdykidLet's do this test:


Remove the liner from the shell
Step into the shell with a thin ski sock on
Slide your foot to the front so your toes just barely touch
Measure the space behind your heel

1cm = high performance fit. I do not suggest going down this road unless you are 100% sure of what you need and/or have a legit boot-fitter (not a boot seller). This fit will most likely feel too short & uncomfortable out of the box and therefore need some stretching & grinding in order to feel comfortable.

2cm = normal fit. I suggest this size if you do not know what you need. It will be snug for most people (provided the shape & volume of the shell is also the right thing for you).

3cm = problematically too big. Never buy a boot with this shell fit.

And no matter what size you end up going with, always get an aftermarket footbed. A footbed creates the proper interface between your flexible foot and the rigid shell so that your foot is held in a comfortable, efficient position. Without a footbed, your foot will slide around causing fit issues, discomfort, and inefficient skiing. Without one, are wasting your time worrying about what boot to get.

You seem Knowledgeable so I’ll ask you one more question. If I did size down one size, would I be able to remount my pivots or would the old holes be too close?

PimpChimpinYou seem Knowledgeable so I’ll ask you one more question. If I did size down one size, would I be able to remount my pivots or would the old holes be too close?

u won’t be able to remount the exact same position but you can make it close

PimpChimpinYou seem Knowledgeable so I’ll ask you one more question. If I did size down one size, would I be able to remount my pivots or would the old holes be too close?

If there are no other holes in the ski, then you should be able to remount and keep your original mounting position on the ski.

onenerdykidLet's do this test:


Remove the liner from the shell
Step into the shell with a thin ski sock on
Slide your foot to the front so your toes just barely touch
Measure the space behind your heel

1cm = high performance fit. I do not suggest going down this road unless you are 100% sure of what you need and/or have a legit boot-fitter (not a boot seller). This fit will most likely feel too short & uncomfortable out of the box and therefore need some stretching & grinding in order to feel comfortable.

2cm = normal fit. I suggest this size if you do not know what you need. It will be snug for most people (provided the shape & volume of the shell is also the right thing for you).

3cm = problematically too big. Never buy a boot with this shell fit.

And no matter what size you end up going with, always get an aftermarket footbed. A footbed creates the proper interface between your flexible foot and the rigid shell so that your foot is held in a comfortable, efficient position. Without a footbed, your foot will slide around causing fit issues, discomfort, and inefficient skiing. Without one, are wasting your time worrying about what boot to get.

Took your advice and went to go try on the size smaller.

decided to pass on both of the sizes and not to purchase the boot.
that color is so sexy which is making me a bit sad but it’s almost the end of the season and I don’t want my foot to outgrow the smaller boot. thanks for the advice though