We’re in the infancy of WW3 Change my mind

VTshredder69lol, theres no oil in Ukraine. America doesn't care.

BombogenesisRemember when trump was gonna start WW3 cause we did a drone strike on some random dude from Iran? Lol

skiermanYeah, that only resulted in an airliner full of people being shot down. GOOD JUHB TRUMPS!

theLiquorAmericans (and maybe EU nations) are living in delusion basically telling Russia “if you invade Ukraine, you’ll be in big trouble, mister” threatening sanctions and all sorts of bullshit. But Russia has the support of China, you think they care? China has way more global power than we want to believe. Russia and Ukraine hold enormous amounts of oil (and specifically natural gas) that is supplied to European countries for energy and everybody is already screaming about high prices, wait until their energy bill triples still. US has lots of natural gas but we can’t transport it in scale. China has a stranglehold on the global supply chain as capitalism outsourced everything to China to save some bucks and make stonks go up. China’s belt and road initiative has blitzkrieg written all over it. I know this is speculation, but Russian trolls have also potentially been destabilizing united nations across the globe over the last decade too. It’s Russia and China’s world for the taking. Why are we so hellbent on going to space again? The war for natural resources is going to get a lot more brutal

we’re just left with hopes and dreams and the hope that NATO actually has any power.

apologies to eheath cuz i hope this turns into a political shitshow of a thread. Bring back Dolan

LonelyWell, it would appear that Russia is going the blitzkrieg route.

Was hoping Putin would take a small win, but still a win in Donbas but I guess he wants it all. Seems like they are

ReturnToMonkeyThat would only be one battle won, not the war. I don't think this would've gone the route where France and England promised peace to Hitler if he stopped after taking the Sudetenland. Everyone was waiting for Putin to move one pawn and the game is on

BombogenesisI’m gonna make a definitive call now and say Russia isn’t going in… not full on GI Joe invasion style. Bump troll me later.

Lonelyhttps://twitter.com/Militarylandnet

LonelyWatching a fucking instagram livestream of an australian war reporter

*Missile goes zipping by above him

"Oh crikey I think that was a missile there. Oh wow"

What a time to be alive

BombogenesisMind posting the @?

BombogenesisMind posting the @?

Lonelyhttps://twitter.com/Anne__Boonchuy/status/1496707466272419840

Link to clip. Don't think this is his twitter

skiermanRemember when Fox News and Trump said this was fake news and it would never happen? I do.

theLiquorI considered the China disarming American’s thread but that seemed to be largely unrelated to this despite being so close of a topic

BombogenesisThe potential Biden/Putin meeting is interesting. I guess I’d consider myself overall right of center, but Biden has a huge chance to gain some respect if he can throw some weight around with one of the most dangerous dudes on the planet.

T.L.Sounds like an easy dunk! Post the clips.

skiermanRemember when Fox News and Trump said this was fake news and it would never happen? I do.

HypeBeastDon't like to agree on these sorts of things but on Tuesday night they were very cringy doing exactly this. Complaining nonstop about how we need to be friends with putin and unpredictable like Trump was lol. Showed an old clip of Obama saying Russia isn't a threat, and that's old foreign policy that doesn't apply anymore. Then Wednesday they finally woke up to reality.

CLQhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1033636/Embed-Code
Tried to watch this shit but couldn’t make it super far. I can’t believe this is the most watched news network in America

.frenchyrussia has commenced the bombings! lets see where this goes!!

coronaAre you happy about this? Fucking pathetic sociopath.

coronaAre you happy about this? Fucking pathetic sociopath.

LonelyI'd also like to voice my hatred for tankies in this thread.

You can both condemn past American involvements and Russia's current involvement and potential future involvement. The sins of the united states do not absolve Russia of their sins. I hear so much of this "U.S. bad so what Russia doing good!" from both individuals on the far right and on the far left.

Russia is a violet autocracy, looking to increase its influence in Europe, potentially by invading a sovereign nation that recent polling shows is 65% in favor of joining nato and 75% percent in favor of joining the EU. This could potentially result in thousands of deaths, or worse, war in Europe.

And people want to blame the U.S. for this. Mindblowing. We are not the ones moving thousands of troops to the border along with millions of dollars of military equipment. Even if we were, it would be with the express goal of defending a sovereign country from one of our largest competitors. It blows my mind how many people see the U.S. as the aggressor here and cite the people of Ukraine wanting to join a defensive alliance as evidence of that.

If you are from the states and support Russia, you are anti-freedom and not in any way a patriot. You're also a dumbfuck.

And let me be clear, this isn't me saying that we should put boots on the ground or even start bombing ourselves, I'm simply complaining about the loud and growing minority of Americans who support shithole dictatorships or autocracies just because they are in opposition to U.S. institutions.

BradFiAusNzCoCaI’m in Finland right now. My wife is really worried finland is gonna be next (can’t blame her given Russian history). I keep telling her “no. Ukraine is different situation and nato is up in Norway at the border waiting for Russia”. Still, kinda worrying being this close

SuspiciousFishThe problem is most people dont understand history and geopolitics so they just regurgitate talking points like "Biden is weak, so Putin invaded!" and crap like that. I have been critical of the USA's actions that have ultimately lead to this but it does not absolve Putin from straight up invading and bringing us to the brink of an actual peer state conflict. Putin is an opportunist and when the CIA helped overthrow Ukraine in 2014 in the violent coup which did actually involve violent far right groups he used that as a justification to 'protect' the ethnically Russian providences in Eastern Ukraine who were not down on the regime change.

I understand the Crimea as they voted overwhelming to be part of Russia and Russia needed the warm weather port but to launch a full scale invasion over smaller providences with little strategic importance makes no sense. Russia has a shit ton to lose over this and not much to gain. Maybe Putin knows his grip on Russia is slipping so he is using a war to consolidate his power again?

In any case, its a stupid move by Putin and things can get really dark here in the next few days. Biden can fuck off too for creating the situation that Putin is now taking advantage of.

When you do shit like this in a geopolitically sensitive part of the world, bad shit happens:


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1033640/Embed-Code

BrandoComandoJokes aside, this is a senseless tragedy in the making. Prayers to the people of Ukraine. I don't think many of us younger folks ever expected to see a full-scale military invasion like this in Europe in our lifetimes. It feels surreal

LonelyWell, it would appear that Russia is going the blitzkrieg route.

Was hoping Putin would take a small win, but still a win in Donbas but I guess he wants it all. Seems like they are

BombogenesisWould this be the first full scale invasion of a seemingly peaceful nation in the 21st century? I don’t think we should have gone to Iraq but they were far from a clean hands country. Ukraine seems to have done nothing overtly obvious to trigger a full scale takeback of their country. Everything I can find 2000 on there was some type of terrorism element

BradFiAusNzCoCaI’m in Finland right now. My wife is really worried finland is gonna be next (can’t blame her given Russian history). I keep telling her “no. Ukraine is different situation and nato is up in Norway at the border waiting for Russia”. Still, kinda worrying being this close