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There might not be summer skiing at Hood this year.

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Skibumsmith
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Temps at the base have been in the 50s for the past several weeks and there’s no snow in the forecast. I’m a little worried.
Feb 10 2022 9:06PM
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Hammyslapwagons
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Most of the west has been on the struggle bus for the past month or so. Sucks. Hoping this isn't the new normal with climate change/global warming.
Feb 10 2022 9:20PM
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Quadkinky
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Local hardware shop has pvc? All good
Feb 10 2022 9:36PM
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Skibumsmith
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HammyslapwagonsHoping this isn't the new normal with climate change/global warming.

That is nothing more than wishful thinking at this point. The damage has been done.
Feb 10 2022 9:39PM
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JAHn
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Its been dry all January/February so far but December was so insane that base depth isn’t far off seasonal averages. I wouldn't worry yet.
Feb 10 2022 9:39PM
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drifts
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Snowpack is 105% of average for the season. Think it’s going to be fine dood
Feb 10 2022 10:40PM
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drifts
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Also there’s snow in the forecast
Feb 10 2022 11:05PM
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JacksonA125
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SkibumsmithTemps at the base have been in the 50s for the past several weeks and there’s no snow in the forecast. I’m a little worried.


Have you not seen Japan… the storms are just spinning, hitting Japan, round to the gulf of Alaska, and back to Japan. The high sun angle will change the pattern, just gotta be patient, miracle March is coming
Feb 10 2022 11:56PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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if you have doubts about this summers snowpack just take a look at how low tide it was winter 14/15 and how timberline still managed to pull it off

We’ll be skiing this summer for sure
Feb 11 2022 1:18AM
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ParkRx
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double post*

**This post was edited on Feb 11th 2022 at 1:56:36am
Feb 11 2022 1:55AM
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ParkRx
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SkibumsmithThat is nothing more than wishful thinking at this point. The damage has been done.


Defeatest thinking can be counterproductive and demotivate people to change
Feb 11 2022 1:56AM
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abcdefu
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HammyslapwagonsMost of the west has been on the struggle bus for the past month or so. Sucks. Hoping this isn't the new normal with climate change/global warming.

Weather is going to get more unpredictable and trend warmer of course. It'll probably to pinpoint a normal for coming seasons, but the trend will be ski seasons get shittier and shittier.
Feb 11 2022 8:14AM
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ajbski
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march can be pretty deep too. atleast further north.

how do you guys think shasta will be come may? i was planning on climbing it with my sister.
Feb 11 2022 8:44AM
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RudyGarmisch
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ajbskimarch can be pretty deep too. atleast further north.

how do you guys think shasta will be come may? i was planning on climbing it with my sister.


Shasta and most of the volcanos sucked ass last year, terrible skiing between 7-10k.
Feb 11 2022 11:44AM
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ajbski
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RudyGarmischShasta and most of the volcanos sucked ass last year, terrible skiing between 7-10k.


sun cups? or just lack of snow??
Feb 11 2022 11:47AM
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tri_photo
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JAHnIts been dry all January/February so far but December was so insane that base depth isn’t far off seasonal averages. I wouldn't worry yet.


The storm cycles at the end of December were absolutely bonkers out here. I'm guessing it kinda helps offset the dry spell of January and Feb.
Feb 11 2022 12:17PM
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broto
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ParkRxDefeatest thinking can be counterproductive and demotivate people to change


I think that the dire reality of the current climate crisis should be plenty motivation for change, actually. It's not defeatist thinking, it's the writing on the wall, and if you can't see it, you're delusional. Can't solve a climate crisis with optimism 🤦
Feb 11 2022 1:06PM
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JAHn
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tri_photoThe storm cycles at the end of December were absolutely bonkers out here. I'm guessing it kinda helps offset the dry spell of January and Feb.

It definitely does offset in terms of snow depth. Surface quality has been absolute shit though. Icy and firm af.
Feb 11 2022 1:54PM
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RudyGarmisch
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ajbskisun cups? or just lack of snow??


Shasta wasn’t skiable last spring on standard routes, April looked like October.
Feb 11 2022 4:04PM
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RudyGarmisch
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RudyGarmischShasta wasn’t skiable last spring on standard routes, April looked like October.

https://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/topic/103952-tr-mt-shasta-cascade-gulch-04182021/
Feb 11 2022 4:06PM
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hi_vis360
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so far this season everybody out west was first losing their shit in November cause it wasn't snowing, then they were like "omg best season ever!!" for December, and now they're back to "worst season ever" vibes.

seems like it will probably start snowing again and you guys will be fine
Feb 11 2022 4:10PM
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theabortionator
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Hood will happen
Feb 11 2022 4:21PM
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OldManAtABasin
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hi_vis360so far this season everybody out west was first losing their shit in November cause it wasn't snowing, then they were like "omg best season ever!!" for December, and now they're back to "worst season ever" vibes.

seems like it will probably start snowing again and you guys will be fine


You are way over-simplifying this. The December snowpack in Colorado was sitting at 49% off the average. We received a few storms and the early January snowpack across the state was at 117% of the average — meaning we are still well below where we should be. The month of February has us trending in the wrong direction and we need a solid storm to start heading back up toward the average.

Here is the JSON data if anyone wants to run some scripts on it.

**This post was edited on Feb 11th 2022 at 4:33:40pm
Feb 11 2022 4:28PM
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hi_vis360
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OldManAtABasinYou are way over-simplifying this. The December snowpack in Colorado was sitting at 49% off the average. We received a few storms and the early January snowpack across the state was at 117% of the average — meaning we are still well below where we should be.

Here is the JSON data if anyone wants to run some scripts on it.

**This post was edited on Feb 11th 2022 at 4:29:25pm


of course Im oversimplifying this I'm basing this off of newschoolers posts lmao
Feb 11 2022 4:33PM
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OldManAtABasin
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hi_vis360of course Im oversimplifying this I'm basing this off of newschoolers posts lmao


Solid approach.
Feb 11 2022 4:38PM
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Chrischi69
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I would cry, shit, and throw up
Feb 11 2022 6:08PM
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theabortionator
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Chrischi69I would cry, shit, and throw up

That's my morning routine
Feb 11 2022 11:44PM
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Paul.
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IanAvery-Leafif you have doubts about this summers snowpack just take a look at how low tide it was winter 14/15 and how timberline still managed to pull it off

We’ll be skiing this summer for sure


Yeah but summer 2015 also ended a month early and the snowfield has never been the same since. Used to be summer ran until labor day every year, but rumor has it tline will be closing mid August going forward. Never seen a hike down to snow like last August either
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1031799/trim-439AE14F-A10A-4E3D-B594-118513861E1B-MOV
Feb 12 2022 12:36AM
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gvski13
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Homie you cant be puttin these negative thoughts in my head
Feb 12 2022 12:44AM
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Skibumsmith
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Paul.Yeah but summer 2015 also ended a month early and the snowfield has never been the same since. Used to be summer ran until labor day every year, but rumor has it tline will be closing mid August going forward. Never seen a hike down to snow like last August either
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1031799/trim-439AE14F-A10A-4E3D-B594-118513861E1B-MOV


Unless we start getting snow I don't expect we'll even make it to august.
Feb 12 2022 1:23AM
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mrk127
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driftsSnowpack is 105% of average for the season. Think it’s going to be fine dood


I don't know the stats but that's not how it looks in oregon rn
Feb 12 2022 2:01AM
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OldManAtABasin
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Graph of the Hood snowpack year-over-year.
Feb 12 2022 2:02AM
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hi_vis360
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OldManAtABasinGraph of the Hood snowpack year-over-year.


these data actually confirm my earlier post. Current snowpack on hood is right around median, its obviously decreasing over time but it doesn't look like this is an especially bad year according to these data.
Feb 12 2022 6:52AM
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Thegratefulskier
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IanAvery-Leafif you have doubts about this summers snowpack just take a look at how low tide it was winter 14/15 and how timberline still managed to pull it off

We’ll be skiing this summer for sure


This year reminds me of the 14/15 season but with a bit more snow.
Feb 12 2022 7:55AM
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