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700billionArc'teryx seems to have become a pretty hype beast brand lately as far as streetwear goes and now we are seeing park skiers wear it all of the sudden when 6 years ago the general consensus would say its for soul 7 skiing dads. Coincidence??? I think Im seeing some sort of correlation between park skiers and hypebeasts and that is not core.
byuboundya idk what some of these words mean but the arcteryx clothing and equipment I own is brilliantly designed and built. Whether the value is there for the cost is questionable, but it is really, really good. Substantially better quality and design than stuff I own from TNF or Patagonia.
700billionTNF is a hype beast brand now. they do collaborations with gucci. arcteryx is basically right there with them they just did a collab with jil sanders a designer fashion brand.
CabbyArrantI have a mountaineering shell from them but the only reason I bought it is I got a ridiculous discount when I worked for a dealer. Love their stuff but it costs too damn much and I hate how much of a status symbol it seems to have become.
byuboundYall care too much about brand identity, wear stuff that works well and don't worry about the rest
byuboundYall care too much about brand identity, wear stuff that works well and don't worry about the rest
r00kieMy beef with Arc'teryx is they explicitly DON"T offer pro deal to raft guides. Guess they don't want their logo on river runners.
CabbyArrantI mean I am all for wearing what works, but it pains me to see people priced out of products; especially the people who could appreciate them the most. Arcteryx makes some of the nicest technical clothing their is but its so expensive that its not accessible to many of the people who would appreciate it the most, and the people who can afford it aren't usually buying it because its functionally better for them. I just see no reason that their stuff should be so expensive, that's my issue with them.
700billionweird, you'd think with gore tex being a big part of their brand identity they'd hook you up.
byuboundDo you think that arcteryx has some moral/ethical obligation to provide gear to people who like skiing or climbing or whatever more than others? I mean sure, I wish that I could buy all of my gear at cost but that isn't how the U.S. economy works. There are companies like OR that provide far better value for the price if that's a significant concern. The reason their stuff is so expensive is because they make more money that way, plain and simple. I guess I can see where you're coming from in not liking that, but to me that has zero bearing on my willingness to buy the product or not. Just like any other manufacturer if I feel like the features and quality are worth the price, I pay it. If they don't, I don't. I don't own a ton of arcteryx stuff because most of the time the cost-benefit is better with other brands.
CabbyArrantI don't think they have any obligation to price their stuff cheaper but what's the point of making clothing for a specific purpose/activity that the isn't affordable to the people who will use it for its intended purpose. Like you said there's better value stuff out there and I love every OR piece I have owned. I guess I just don't get what they are trying to do if it's anything other than trying to gouge people.
CabbyArrantI don't think they have any obligation to price their stuff cheaper but what's the point of making clothing for a specific purpose/activity that the isn't affordable to the people who will use it for its intended purpose. Like you said there's better value stuff out there and I love every OR piece I have owned. I guess I just don't get what they are trying to do if it's anything other than trying to gouge people.
HypeBeastWhy do I think this brand and spyder are essentially the same thing? Or same clientele? Saw a chick in the lift line with one of these brands on with "US ski Team" on jacket and pants. I lol'd as I admired her Rossignol rental skis as she clearly is not a pro skier...
BiffbarfI rarely see spyder anymore, if It's obvious it's usually some ancient old ex race kook in 20+ year old gear
r00kieIts like a Cadillac. Underneath its the same as a Chevy but its marketed towards a more exclusive buyer who pays more for the brand attached to it. Arc'teryx isn't really that different from other brands like OR (which is amazing) but they aim for a different buyer so they develop their brand and price accordingly.
r00kieMy beef with Arc'teryx is they explicitly DON"T offer pro deal to raft guides. Guess they don't want their logo on river runners.
BiffbarfI rarely see spyder anymore, if It's obvious it's usually some ancient old ex race kook in 20+ year old gear
700billionSpyder makes cool Spyder web beanies. or at least they did a couple years ago bc I own one. ya I think they've always been a race orientated brand. but they were sponsoring quinn wolferman and Ferdinand Dahl and other park skiers I think recently
freestyler540without arcteryx, I would have quit early.
freestyler540Im decked out in Arc’teryx gear. The quality is truly superior to any other brands. I swear by them. Ive endured some wild weather, without arcteryx, I would have quit early.
They are a sustainable company too. Fair trade, eco friendly production and producing quality gear is a motto I would invest in. Plus their warranty policy is amazing
freestyler540Im decked out in Arc’teryx gear. The quality is truly superior to any other brands. I swear by them. Ive endured some wild weather, without arcteryx, I would have quit early.
They are a sustainable company too. Fair trade, eco friendly production and producing quality gear is a motto I would invest in. Plus their warranty policy is amazing
deathcookieArc'eryx is owned by ANTA. ANTA's companies use cotton that come from the Xinjiang internment camps (Uyghurs). By supporting Arc'teryx, you are supporting one of the least sustainable companies on earth that earns money from concentration camps.
deathcookieArc'eryx is owned by ANTA. ANTA's companies use cotton that come from the Xinjiang internment camps (Uyghurs). By supporting Arc'teryx, you are supporting one of the least sustainable companies on earth that earns money from concentration camps.
byuboundNot to sound callous to the issues at hand, but this seems like a pretty weak relationship and I think you would be hard pressed to find a brand today that isn't at least tangentially tied to some morally objectionable practices.
Excess consumerism and disposable goods are also a huge problem in society, and every Arc'teryx product I own has lasted years of hard use. How much durability should I sacrifice and therefore increase my ecological footprint to stop supporting this brand?
MiIfHunter90 percent of my wardrobe is arc teryx. I’m an OG motherfucker. Been buying their shot since 2011
WoFlowzI have some T shirts and my mom used to have a rain jacket from arcteryx. Amazing quality stuff even their kinda dry fit tees. Don’t even feel the seams on them. Super soft a breathable. My moms rain jacket lasted 14yesrs lol. Rly tempted to buy a shell from their outlet because of the quality and their repairs program
GrandThingsI hate the narrative that Arc'teryx "decided" to become a hype-beast brand. It's just a (perceived) cool brand that got recognized by a few key people in the fashion industry (specifically Virgil Abloh) and therefore blew up in popularity. Fashion stealing from action-sports has been going on forever. (Supreme is the obvious example here, and literally the EXACT same pattern happened with Palace to the point where one of their riders now even has a shoe on LV, which I think is dope.)
You notice a hypebeasts starting to wear more Dickies, Carhartt and other work-wear a lot more lately? Same damn shit. Hell, Nike dunks used to be cheap as fuck and were a go to skate-shoe and you can't even find a basic pair for retail anymore.
I'm just hoping Arsenic gets recognized some day and Dan makes a huge stack of cash.
700billionIs there repairs program good? I hear people complain about it and say it doesnt compare to outdoor research. Id never pay $600 but i see arcteryx shells pop up at outdoor thrift stores but theyre still usually like $250
700billionArc'teryx seems to have become a pretty hype beast brand lately as far as streetwear goes and now we are seeing park skiers wear it all of the sudden when 6 years ago the general consensus would say its for soul 7 skiing dads. Coincidence??? I think Im seeing some sort of correlation between park skiers and hypebeasts and that is not core.
driftsSeeing people in a full head to toe arcteryx kit is just as bad as a montec/dope kit.
also arcteryx is doing a lot of marketing to freestyle/freeride and young people and fashion because they dont want to be known only as boomer wear
I dont really like wearing the arcteryx shit I have unless I can hide the logos
**This post was edited on Jan 21st 2022 at 4:01:14pm
driftsSeeing people in a full head to toe arcteryx kit is just as bad as a montec/dope kit.
**This post was edited on Jan 21st 2022 at 4:01:14pm
byuboundlmao, is your 'core' status so fragile that people seeing the arcteryx logo on you will hurt it?
GrandThingsYeah I feel like the difference tho is that some dudes that rock Arteryx DO actually rip, whereas I've never really seen someone throwing down in Montec.
DTetzI've got a kit, but i only ride it at home mountain (theres no park, lots of storm skiing and backcountry). I also dont want to rip it and usually wear value village type stuff at the park (99% of time skiing there).
Should you buy arcteryx?
>Do you ski during storms lots (wind, rain) -> yes -> Buy it, it is worth
>Did you mostly ride park?-> yes -> Don't buy it, too expensive to rip and is not steezy or core imo
700billionI feel like good rule of thumb with ski equipment is dont buy sometjing you cant afford to use bc your scared of breaking