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Assistance requested regarding edge pressure and technique while grooming.
I'm from back enough that I was sitting back, feet together, rapid alternative edge sets....... that's not working anymore.
On 180cm, Atomic 97C and it appears that a* forward attacking, front edge (front of boots to tip)* leaning technique works best.
Also, still*stepping into next turn* as opposed to (as I'm told) simply rolling my ankles
Realize not a hot topic.
Rehash: how to transition smoothly from quick edge sets to GS and back again?
Pinch at the waist. Keep your shoulders pointed down the fall line. Drive the shovels and make a 'C' shape with each turn. You should be able to feel the ski bend and release energy at the end of the turn and it should propel your legs underneath you to make the next turn. Turn size and rebound energy is a function of how hard you drive the shovel and bend the ski.
Had to teach my dad how to ski new age a couple years ago. I don’t think of it as “tipping my ankles” as much as tilting my knee and driving my knee towards where I want to go. Also, just a regular athletic position is the best way to achieve the positioning you’re talking about
A: leaning forward by articulating the ankles and turning in the out side ski by pointing your femur. should feel like the ski is drifting without biting too hard. build up your balance on the outside ski.
B: your fore and aft balance should be pretty centred here. here is where you start building up edge pressure and seperating your shoulder and hip direction.
Between B and C: Balance should be back, max angulation in the hips. pull your inside ski up using your knee and hip. get your ass to grass. keep your outside leg as straight as possible without over extending.
C: Steer your skis back under you, release the edge. you will get shot up depending on how much you got the tail of the ski to bend in the previous step. pole plant, and get ready lean forward to start the next turn.
Your corridor width directly relates to how fast you gotta do all these steps and the initiation angle in part A.
For a really wide downhill type turn, you are drifting/skidding the turn very little and letting your side cut do the work (rolling your edges)
For a slalom turn, you are doing a lot more anlge/skidding the turn at parts A->B
basically, at the start of the turn you are using the front of your ski (leaning forward), at the end you are using the back
This is my original training, so good.
But do my shaped skis require more front end, knee drive than my 80s match sticks required?
BiffbarfPinch at the waist. Keep your shoulders pointed down the fall line. Drive the shovels and make a 'C' shape with each turn. You should be able to feel the ski bend and release energy at the end of the turn and it should propel your legs underneath you to make the next turn. Turn size and rebound energy is a function of how hard you drive the shovel and bend the ski.
pretty stiff, so yea you’re gonna have to do more work to get them to bend. They are also wider, so you’re gonna have to angulate more to get similar edge angles.
my gf has the women’s version, and likes their edge stability, I wouldn’t say she’s an expert skier tho.
but seriously, don’t worry too much about the A-framing/stepping out. That means your feet aren’t synchronized.
concentrate instead on getting shin pressure at top of the turn, and heels at the end (you’re trying to lift your tips up)
Abomber22This is my original training, so good.
But do my shaped skis require more front end, knee drive than my 80s match sticks required?
All good advice
Been riding a long time, just not on shaped boards.
My first impression is to be a little more forward than I remember, still picking up my heels while making short rapid linked turns
With cross hill carvers, I'm trying to ride the dh ski, inside edge as long as possible
ajbskiThose are titanal reinforced skis.
pretty stiff, so yea you’re gonna have to do more work to get them to bend. They are also wider, so you’re gonna have to angulate more to get similar edge angles.
my gf has the women’s version, and likes their edge stability, I wouldn’t say she’s an expert skier tho.
but seriously, don’t worry too much about the A-framing/stepping out. That means your feet aren’t synchronized.
concentrate instead on getting shin pressure at top of the turn, and heels at the end (you’re trying to lift your tips up)
BradFiAusNzCoCaHad to teach my dad how to ski new age a couple years ago. I don’t think of it as “tipping my ankles” as much as tilting my knee and driving my knee towards where I want to go. Also, just a regular athletic position is the best way to achieve the positioning you’re talking about
A: leaning forward by articulating the ankles and turning in the out side ski by pointing your femur. should feel like the ski is drifting without biting too hard. build up your balance on the outside ski.
B: your fore and aft balance should be pretty centred here. here is where you start building up edge pressure and seperating your shoulder and hip direction.
Between B and C: Balance should be back, max angulation in the hips. pull your inside ski up using your knee and hip. get your ass to grass. keep your outside leg as straight as possible without over extending.
C: Steer your skis back under you, release the edge. you will get shot up depending on how much you got the tail of the ski to bend in the previous step. pole plant, and get ready lean forward to start the next turn.
Your corridor width directly relates to how fast you gotta do all these steps and the initiation angle in part A.
For a really wide downhill type turn, you are drifting/skidding the turn very little and letting your side cut do the work (rolling your edges)
For a slalom turn, you are doing a lot more anlge/skidding the turn at parts A->B
basically, at the start of the turn you are using the front of your ski (leaning forward), at the end you are using the back