Apex ski boots.. what in the hell.

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Leaving skis without the brakes engaged like that seems like a good way to kill a small child.

The majority of the blue groomer skiers would love this can’t imagine them breaking them

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Owned a pair. This is true

They tried to start a fight with me on their Facebook because I commented on a post that their boots were ass 😂😂😂 my view has changed though because I think that while the advanced/aggressive skier wouldn’t like these (I’ve skied them and they’re god awful), people with like mobility issues, injuries to the lower leg/foot could potentially still be able to ski with something like this….. I just don’t like that they have a boot that’s designed for “aggressive skiing” because they’re not lol

Those look like they'd hurt with the individual pieces pressing into the 'liner' instead of a solid piece distributing the pressure of the buckles over the larger area of your foot. But these are for casuals, a lot of people are turned off from skiing because of rigid boots. I've met a couple people so far on the lift that really seem to like them even if they're kinda goofy (last guy had em on rental bindings as well, stack height was to the moon). More power to em.

**This post was edited on Jan 9th 2022 at 2:06:30am

Looks like boots specifically designed for the weak

I’ve never tried them before but they seem like they would be extremely sloppy to ski with. I have a feeling that you just cant get anywhere near to the level of control with these as opposed to the control you get with a tightly and properly fitted traditional ski boot.

It’s one of those things that sounds great on paper but then is a crime against humanity in execution.

I want them to be good. It’s a really cool concept, but until they are made to be stiffer I can’t pull trig and will suffer through in my trad boots.

So I bought a pair of these for this season and I actually dig them, but I won't pretend they're for everyone and it really depends on what kind of boot fit you prefer. My thoughts on them so far are something like this:

After a few days of riding in them I will say they are extremely comfortable and very warm compared to a more conventional boot.

The boot itself looks and operates a lot like a snowboard boot, but they're definitely stiffer and more rigid than a real snowboard boot. The way you convey weight and control to your skis works a bit differently compared to a regular boot, but I was actually surprised at the amount of control I had despite not having a hard shell around my foot. Everything runs through the chassis frame that runs along the back of your leg/achilles.

It's cut a bit higher than a typical boot, and I suspect the frame/control is why. After the first couple of turns I didn't really notice the boot at all, and everything felt pretty natural. They are also highly adjustable, and it took several days for me to really get them dialed in. You can adjust the stiffness of the frame if you want more/less flex.

Popping the boots out of the frame and walking around is nice, but leaving the chassis clipped into your bindings is awkward unless you put them on a rack. Leaving them just sitting in the snow like the OP pic is dumb since the skis can just take off without brakes. You can still walk around in the boots with the chassis attached, which was fine for short walks, but longer walks you'll absolutely want to take the chassis off. Putting the boots back into the chassis is also awkward if they're still clipped into your skis, and I haven't decided yet if that's something you can get used to or not.

With the way they fit, an Apex boot frame will likely (but not always) be a size larger than a normal boot, which means you'll potentially need a re-mount.

Overall, they felt good and performed pretty well as an all-mountain boot, but I admittedly haven't taken them into the park yet.

CatdickBojanglesIt’s one of those things that sounds great on paper but then is a crime against humanity in execution.

I'd say it's not great on paper either as a ski boot needs to be stiff because its purpose is to give leverage over a heavy ski mechanism from the center, and this is maximized when the boot doesn't deform much.
Whereas a snowboard boot or a softboot rollerblade is about facilitating balance and weight transfer

CatdickBojanglesIt’s one of those things that sounds great on paper but then is a crime against humanity in execution.

I'd say it's not great on paper either as a ski boot needs to be stiff because its purpose is to give leverage over a heavy ski mechanism from the center, and this is maximized when the boot doesn't deform much.
Whereas a snowboard boot or a softboot rollerblade is about facilitating balance and weight transfer

how do your feet not get wet walking through the parking lot though?

I tried them on once, they didn't fell particularly safe or solid, and whenever you'd unclip from the frame, it'd take ages to fasten yourself back onto the skis, it's just easier on the whole to just click out the bindings as usual, kinda defeating the purpose of the thing. really not worth the easier walking, or the ridiculous price.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1026889/APEX-SKI-BOOTS-Buttermilk-Park--1

Worked with an instructor who taught both skiing and snowboarding. One a busy saturday going through a bunch of lessons in a day he loved these cause he didn't have to switch boots all the time. They have their purpose, 99% of this site just isn't the target market.