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So, I took these skis into a shop I trust so I knew they would be taken care of when mounting. Well, I just got them back today and I noticed that one heel piece is raised because one of the holes had a sloppy drill and a lot of glue (I can see pieces of the topsheet in the glue). It looks as if this may have made the heel sit higher or the tech just didn’t screw the heels down enough. My question is this: do I bring it to their attention or just back the heels out, apply wood glue and rescrew them?
Kinda hard to see but photos attached. First two photos are glue hole, second two are raised hole. I compared the bindings to my other skis with attack and they def should not be this high.
Classic example of forgetting to hand tighten. My mans right there used a drill with a torque limiter. Ski was too solid or he used the wrong size bit to drill the holes. Didn't sit flat when they drilled the screws in and they forgot to finish tightening those two screws by hand. I'd say take them back, get them to fix it, and get some store credit for the trouble. Did it once when I was a rookie in my shop.
After reading a few threads on attacks/funky mounts this week I looked at a pair of my own that always seemed a little off.
They should look like pic #1. Skis pictured were mounted and last skied 3 seasons ago but have only about 50 days on them with no wrecks. Even though I never noticed any actual skiing issues (and they tested fine), always double check your gear if in doubt.
For reference here is the A13 on a pair of skis that have been absolutely thrashed everywhere for 200+ days. Some crashes, some shitty skiing, and some weird landings. Bindings are still holding solid because they were mounted correctly.
A small gap at the end of the heel piece is normal as shown, but anything around the actual screw point is sketch.
I’ve drilled and mounted attacks before and I know they’re not always the easiest and I think that’s exactly what he did. The torque hit its limit and he was just like “eh”. Which is annoying because they did fhe other ski fine. I’m debating what I should do. I don’t really want to throw a stink because it should be a pretty easy fix of them clearing the hole and re-screwing with wood glue. I could do it myself but then they’ll blame me if something happens somehow. It is a 20-30 minute drive for me out of town to the shop and I wanted to use these this weekend because we just got 13”+ at my local.
JuviticusClassic example of forgetting to hand tighten. My mans right there used a drill with a torque limiter. Ski was too solid or he used the wrong size bit to drill the holes. Didn't sit flat when they drilled the screws in and they forgot to finish tightening those two screws by hand. I'd say take them back, get them to fix it, and get some store credit for the trouble. Did it once when I was a rookie in my shop.
anders_amost shop techs use a clutch drill, it ends up variable to say the least.
I've had to clutches FAIL on me while doing it, we have a spinner....... undertightening is the best scenario.
I've changed over to just going over everything by hand
Yeah, if you look at the second one, you can see the screw. That’s what clued me in, as well. Seeing the screw. Shouldn’t see the screw with attacks
cndrAfter reading a few threads on attacks/funky mounts this week I looked at a pair of my own that always seemed a little off.
They should look like pic #1. Skis pictured were mounted and last skied 3 seasons ago but have only about 50 days on them with no wrecks. Even though I never noticed any actual skiing issues (and they tested fine), always double check your gear if in doubt.
I have a feeling most people don’t notice or don’t push their gear hard enough and techs do a lot of mounts. The whole mount system in skiing is so antiquated compared to snowboarding’s ease of use with bindings
HypeBeastJesus christ is it me or is there an overabundance of shop threads on here about fucked up mounts?
cndrFor reference here is the A13 on a pair of skis that have been absolutely thrashed everywhere for 200+ days. Some crashes, some shitty skiing, and some weird landings. Bindings are still holding solid because they were mounted correctly.
A small gap at the end of the heel piece is normal as shown, but anything around the actual screw point is sketch.
If these are your skis and bindings after 200+ days teach me your ways. They look sooooo clean and perfecf from this angle
I have the necessary tools and feel pretty confident doing it myself (I’ve done it before on other bindings). What is the group consensus? Should I just fix it myself?
BradFiAusNzCoCaI have the necessary tools and feel pretty confident doing it myself (I’ve done it before on other bindings). What is the group consensus? Should I just fix it myself?
For sure, I wouldn't waste my time going back to the shop for just that. Won't take you more than a minute and a half to fix. Worst case if you somehow manage to fuck it up you can always bring it back then.
It was an extremely easy fix. I’m gonna call them and be like “luckily I have the gear to fix this but people could get really hurt. Please let your tech know to double check next time”.
anders_athen its a nobrainer, tech is sure as hell not going to do it better than you.
if the other 3 are ok, just remove screw thats up, fiddle around with tiny drilbit or sharp object, vacum/knock out so its clear, put glue in, screw
Monsieur_PatateFor sure, I wouldn't waste my time going back to the shop for just that. Won't take you more than a minute and a half to fix. Worst case if you somehow manage to fuck it up you can always bring it back then.
BradFiAusNzCoCaIt was an extremely easy fix. I’m gonna call them and be like “luckily I have the gear to fix this but people could get really hurt. Please let your tech know to double check next time”.
I backed out both heel screws in back on the tray. Luckily, both holes were clear so I just reapplied glue and screwed while pressuring downward until the screws bottomed out. Just all around extremely lazy work from the tech.
JbleddyIf these are your skis and bindings after 200+ days teach me your ways. They look sooooo clean and perfecf from this angle
Haha dude I think it's just the angle and the shadow, the binding is pretty cut up. 100% mechanically sound though. Edges are holding strong with some preventative maintenence.
