Replying to A serious discussion about Pivots

A little background: I have been skiing park for 4 seasons now. In that time I’ve rode Griffins, Jesters, Attacks, and of course pivots. I’m riding pivots on my daily driver park skis right now.

recently I’ve noticed this surge in demand for pivots and I’ve received some ridiculous offers for my battered and conglomerated Frankenstein pivots. I want to shed some light on the truth about pivots and why they are not maybe all they are hyped to be

Pivots are the BMW of bindings: they’re still just a car, but they have some luxuries that people desire. They are also really expensive and tend to break down more than the usual car and cost you a lot when they do. I currently own 3 pairs of pivots: 18s, fks 185s, and some older 12s. Of those 6 heels and 6 toes, I have 1 working set. The rest are for parts. That is the reality of owning pivots more than a couple seasons old. They will break and it will ruin your day. Mine broke again on Sunday and yes they are properly set up. Oh and if you’ve ever hiked with pivots you know they are a pain in the ass.

the Tyrolia Attack is like a Honda Accord. Nicer than people think, cheaper, and about 95% of the BMW. It will also run forever and when it breaks it will be easy and cheap to fix.

pivots are great bindings. They do what a binding should. The release feels consistent and the feedback from the ski is great. But they are not the end all be all. they have plenty of flaws including their price.

I get that there is this status around pivots. They look really cool and they have cool color ways and they are the “top tier” of bindings. But Tyrolia and Marker have been catching up with new colorways. And really there’s not too much a pivot gives you that any other cannot

As with everything: focus on skiing and not the gear on your feet. I shouldn’t have kids offering me 300 bucks for my excuse of pivot 18s just because they’re pivot 18s. Bindings are bindings. As long as you get good quality ones they will never hold you back. If anyone reading this is holding out for a pair of pivots: I recommend you just grab some Tyrolia attacks. You will not be disappointed at all. They will be just as good and cheaper

**This thread was edited on Jan 4th 2022 at 11:37:44am