Diversity in skiing

Too expensive. Lack of reliable access. Many low income people can't even afford transportation to work; transportation to a mountain is gonna be near impossible. When you say diversity i assume you're meaning races, but let's be honest, racial diversity within communities is largely skewed towards poor for minorities and rich towards white folk so money will always be the largest factor. Skiing will never be a thing for those groups unless cities bring back small local hills and resorts create programs to incentivize others to participate. The lack of diversity in skiing is certainly due to income, culture within communities, and geographical constraints.

Additionally 75% of the people on here would have a stroke if their mountain traffic increased any more. You think they can mentally handle another 5%, 10% more skier visits? Lol

Edit: and op you are certainly referring to black races. Because Asian participation in skiing is very common. So the term diversity is a bit misleading here.

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Additionally 75% of the people on here would have a stroke if their mountain traffic increased any more. You think they can mentally handle another 5%, 10% more skier visits?[/quote]
Because Asian participation in skiing is very common. So the term diversity is a bit misleading here.

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^^Comments like these will get you canceled these days.

OP asked how we increase diversity and here’s my first go…
-Public supported rope tows / park & rail features on town hills closer to city populations. [think Ruby Hill in Denver]
-Public school ski/ride programs that use these small town hills.
-Expand 5th graders ski free at resorts.
-Better transportation programs to get kids into the hills: carpools to trains
-More awareness that skiing doesn’t have to happen at a resort: keep filming street ski shit
-Someone could champion a better donation program to funnel equipment to lower income communities. My first target would be all the gear that doesn’t sell at ski swaps and second would be promoting the heck out of ski equipment donation collection towards the end of the season at resorts.

but this is surely a topic that should surface more.

HypeBeastToo expensive. Lack of reliable access. Many low income people can't even afford transportation to work; transportation to a mountain is gonna be near impossible. When you say diversity i assume you're meaning races, but let's be honest, racial diversity within communities is largely skewed towards poor for minorities and rich towards white folk so money will always be the largest factor. Skiing will never be a thing for those groups unless cities bring back small local hills and resorts create programs to incentivize others to participate. The lack of diversity in skiing is certainly due to income, culture within communities, and geographical constraints.

Additionally 75% of the people on here would have a stroke if their mountain traffic increased any more. You think they can mentally handle another 5%, 10% more skier visits? Lol

Edit: and op you are certainly referring to black races. Because Asian participation in skiing is very common. So the term diversity is a bit misleading here.

**This post was edited on Dec 23rd 2021 at 5:12:56am

I wouldn’t say very common…. I’m Asian and don’t usually see more than 1 or 2 other Asian skiers a day out of say, 3-400 people.

Is skiing really not that diverse? I always meet so many different people from all over the world when I ride chairlifts with randos.

HypeBeastToo expensive. Lack of reliable access. Many low income people can't even afford transportation to work; transportation to a mountain is gonna be near impossible. When you say diversity i assume you're meaning races, but let's be honest, racial diversity within communities is largely skewed towards poor for minorities and rich towards white folk so money will always be the largest factor. Skiing will never be a thing for those groups unless cities bring back small local hills and resorts create programs to incentivize others to participate. The lack of diversity in skiing is certainly due to income, culture within communities, and geographical constraints.

Additionally 75% of the people on here would have a stroke if their mountain traffic increased any more. You think they can mentally handle another 5%, 10% more skier visits? Lol

Edit: and op you are certainly referring to black races. Because Asian participation in skiing is very common. So the term diversity is a bit misleading here.

**This post was edited on Dec 23rd 2021 at 5:12:56am

I definitely agree that accessibility is the main reason that we don't see a lot of diversity on the hill, and that money will always be the largest contributing factor. However, I don't believe that me saying diversity is misleading at all. In a sport where, what feels like 90% of the participants are white, when I say diversity I mean all ethnicities. There is a massive lack of representation for a lot of different ethnicities within this sport; I was only using black races as an example because my friend is black and this was a conversation that I had first hand with him.

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I totally agree, a majority of people within the sport are some of the most accepting and kindest people I have ever met, there wouldn't be any problems with acceptance on the hill. However, accessibility is the largest concern when it comes to improving diversity within the sport, so I was wondering what we could do to improve the accessibility of the sport rather than the acceptance of other ethnicities in skiing.

These threads come up every few months. Basically the crux of it is most of the cities near skiing have demographics that are 85% to 90% White. So that narrows the pool down and of that pool of minorities only a smaller subset are willing to make skiing part of their lifestyle. By the time you run all the numbers that means only a few minorities on the hill.

I haven’t seen many black skiers but there’s plenty of black snowboarders at my local

Detroit? Chicago? Rochester? Albany, Minneapolis?

Each city has skiing within 30min. Some have skiing in the city.

SuspiciousFishThese threads come up every few months. Basically the crux of it is most of the cities near skiing have demographics that are 85% to 90% White. So that narrows the pool down and of that pool of minorities only a smaller subset are willing to make skiing part of their lifestyle. By the time you run all the numbers that means only a few minorities on the hill.

BC has a lot of chinese and indians that ride. A lot more girls are sticking to the sport too.

Skiing is a huge sport in Asia. Just because we don't hit the same exact population demographic as the US population at ski resorts for Asians doesn't mean much to me. But I've been plenty of places where there's a decent amount of Asians- anecdotal so doesn't conclude much tho. Go to Jay peak and some days you'll be the minority lol, but that may be because it's close to Canada or also because of the EB5 program.

animatorI wouldn’t say very common…. I’m Asian and don’t usually see more than 1 or 2 other Asian skiers a day out of say, 3-400 people.

WormracerDetroit? Chicago? Rochester? Albany, Minneapolis?

Each city has skiing within 30min. Some have skiing in the city.

What's the most popular sport within those communities? Basketball. Football. Track. Some baseball. You can't force people to do a sport they either have no desire or awareness about. That was why I mentioned culture. Skiers only make up 4% of the population so it's not like there's a lot of us to begin with. You can't expect the same proportions everywhere. There's tons of professions and hobbies that are skewed towards one race or another. There's way too many factors. I know ur not arguing but figured I'd add that. Then in those communities, can you guess the average income of those groups? Bad.


Also for anyone who wants some more stats https://www.powder.com/stories/opinion/extend-the-family/

Yeah exactly.

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HypeBeastSkiing is a huge sport in Asia. Just because we don't hit the same exact population demographic as the US population at ski resorts for Asians doesn't mean much to me. But I've been plenty of places where there's a decent amount of Asians- anecdotal so doesn't conclude much tho. Go to Jay peak and some days you'll be the minority lol, but that may be because it's close to Canada or also because of the EB5 program.



What's the most popular sport within those communities? Basketball. Football. Track. Some baseball. You can't force people to do a sport they either have no desire or awareness about. That was why I mentioned culture. Skiers only make up 4% of the population so it's not like there's a lot of us to begin with. You can't expect the same proportions everywhere. There's tons of professions and hobbies that are skewed towards one race or another. There's way too many factors. I know ur not arguing but figured I'd add that. Then in those communities, can you guess the average income of those groups? Bad.


Also for anyone who wants some more stats https://www.powder.com/stories/opinion/extend-the-family/

Maybe minorities think skiing, and its high cost, are fucking whack.

skeirmanMaybe minorities think skiing, and its high cost, are fucking whack.

That is one of the main issues. In order to ski you either have to be rich or be willing to make sacrifices to make that part of your lifestyle. Its a hard sell to go around to communities that are not into skiing and tell them they need to troll Craigslist for a few weeks to get a kit together and start saving up for a season pass every year. Especially when its something with a pretty steep learning curve and they might not be into it after trying. Compared to skateboarding where you can grab a comparatively cheap setup at a local shop and be ready to ride. Others have mentioned getting smaller parks closer to metropolitan areas to get people into the sport but you still have the same equipment and learning curve issues.

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skiing is still a rich white mans sport, probably always will be unfortunately.