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How did your rail progression go?

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muffMan.
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I can comfortably rail slide, just approaching the flat rail I have straight on, pop and turn 90. I’ve begun to add some pedaling and landing switch out.


Im still working on that pedaling part and then hitting rails from the side.


anyways how did it go when you first started rails?
Dec 9 2021 12:11AM
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swaggrandpa
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It took me a while like a couple years to build up the courage, I’ve never really skied park but last year I had a dream one night that I could slide a rail and somehow that got me over my fear and the next day I slid one, only done flat rails but can technically slide one and haven’t done many since
Dec 9 2021 12:32AM
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Everchanger
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I can hop on and of regular and switch going for 270s out next then prolly backslide then front swap then 2 on
Dec 9 2021 1:08AM
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Slowbro
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After I got comfortable approaching rails from the side I learned to hit down rails, then kink rails. Learned 2s out and then grinded out switch ups and unnatural tricks on a rail I built in my yard. I'd really recommend building a backyard setup if you don't already have one, they are great for learning.
Dec 9 2021 1:12AM
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muffMan.
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Probably wouldn’t like rails if I didn’t. Has been so much fun since it snowed
SlowbroAfter I got comfortable approaching rails from the side I learned to hit down rails, then kink rails. Learned 2s out and then grinded out switch ups and unnatural tricks on a rail I built in my yard. I'd really recommend building a backyard setup if you don't already have one, they are great for learning.
Dec 9 2021 1:14AM
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weastcoat
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Once I learned all 8 and to do nearly everything both ways it changed the game.
Dec 9 2021 1:32AM
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Quaggy
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weastcoatOnce I learned all 8 and to do nearly everything both ways it changed the game.

What's "all 8"?
Dec 9 2021 1:42AM
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weastcoat
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QuaggyWhat's "all 8"?


All 8 variations of a swap + 270 out.

Front up front 2, k fed, backswap cont 2, backswap pretz 2. Then all of those again but you get on unnatural.
Dec 9 2021 1:44AM
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BigmoneyMatt
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Years and years of going once or twice a season and hitting the tubes barely getting better. 1 day I randomly turned my head trying to potentially blind 2 out and I accidentally backsurface swapped and locked it. I was like wtf and continued to play around with it until I was going 10 or 20 times a season until now going almost everyday. Still inconsistent but got 3 swaps. 4 on. All 4, 4s out. Progressed alot the last few seasons from 21 to 24 years old. Learned how to do a rail when I was 10. It took me 11 years to finally fully commit to it and I was never really able to access skiing unless my brothers went with me. They played hockey which took up all their time, and my parents didn't consider freestyle skiing a sport which is what I've told them I've wanted to do since I was tiny. I've always been slightly bitter about it because they never took hockey crazy seriously, and because they played I could never really go skiing. Unless I got into racing they told me and I didn't want to race. Plus all their hockey stuff was so expensive I kinda decided when I was really young that ide bite the bullet.
Dec 9 2021 2:14AM
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mrk127
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My summer setup was key for me
Dec 9 2021 3:06AM
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Rparr
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mrk127My summer setup was key for me


this right here, my skiing made a quantuum leap after I spent several seasons hitting my setup every day
Dec 9 2021 3:40AM
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goatmaster
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You just got to ski a lot of rails to get better. Good next tricks to try are front 270 out, lip on, and front swap. Once you got those tricks, put them together in a bunch of ways. Honestly if you hike a flat tube you will get better faster than if you do one rail per run.
Dec 9 2021 10:00AM
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switchlip2
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Hitting rails faster
Dec 9 2021 10:05AM
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lil.Boye
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Took some time. But just skiing a lot and pushing myself. Hitting scary features early in the day to not let fear build up. Always had a good assortment of pvc and rails so super nice learning and getting confindent with tricks on pvc then taking them to rails.

my tip is just pushing yourself, visioning the trick and feeling the movements you are going to do on the rail/feature
good luck dude, stay stoked
Dec 9 2021 4:17PM
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Logi
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Yeah I’d just try hitting the feature at a high speed. I just started learning how to slide rails this summer because my friend and I built a dryslope setup but once you get barrel rails and round rails you can do a lot more
Dec 9 2021 7:59PM
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mountaindewgirl
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Years of being stuck on a "boxes-only" plateau
Dec 9 2021 8:41PM
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jompcock
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Was eh at rails for many years, could do all 8 except for ray charles. Then I found a corrugated tube and set it up in my yard. Learned just about every variation of switch on up to sw tails 2 bs f2 and the next season I got ray charles, 2p2 and 2's on to down tubes. I swear the best way to progress at rails is to have a tube set up in your yard that you're comfortable learning stuff on.

Backyard tube changed my life
Dec 9 2021 8:43PM
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galardogod
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Boxes > flat bar > tube >down rails > kinky ones front 2 > front swap > ray Charles > 270 onto boxes > 270 on to flat rails > back two >
Dec 9 2021 8:55PM
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mrk127
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Which switch up to spin off is a Ray Charles?
Dec 9 2021 9:03PM
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Gourd
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mrk127Which switch up to spin off is a Ray Charles?

back swap to blind 2. Ray Charles is blind, so are both of the spins.
Dec 9 2021 10:18PM
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mrk127
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Gordmanback swap to blind 2. Ray Charles is blind, so are both of the spins.


epic, I just learned BS to forward and to switch today. Ray Charles is gonna be my next goal
Dec 9 2021 10:22PM
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BigmoneyMatt
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mrk127epic, I just learned BS to forward and to switch today. Ray Charles is gonna be my next goal


Def the most difficult of the 4. Broke my wrist on 1.
Dec 10 2021 1:35AM
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BigmoneyMatt
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larilinesignYears of being stuck on a "boxes-only" plateau


Not sure if I'de call that a progression.
Dec 10 2021 1:37AM
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ndye
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DeadBNot sure if I'de call that a progression.


Hey man, I learned kfeds 12 years ago and I will never stop or be better. A plateau is just long form stair progression.
Dec 10 2021 3:31AM
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Rparr
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I found 2p2 to be easier than ray Charles
Dec 10 2021 3:35AM
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BigmoneyMatt
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ndyeHey man, I learned kfeds 12 years ago and I will never stop or be better. A plateau is just long form stair progression.


That's a little different then boxes. You just aren't even trying at the point of boxes.
Dec 10 2021 9:00AM
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r00kie
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larilinesignYears of being stuck on a "boxes-only" plateau


This is where I am. Can get down a fat tube but its just uncomfortable and not fun for me at this point. Rails just aren't my thing I guess.
Dec 10 2021 9:30AM
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Jems
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First year
- Front 4
- Blind 2
Second year
- Kfed
- Front/back swaps
- Britney
- Back 4
Third year
- All way swaps
- 270 on
- Front 6
Fourth year
- 2p2
- switch 2 on
- basically every swap to 2 off variation
- elusive
ETC
Dec 10 2021 10:42AM
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Jems
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RparrI found 2p2 to be easier than ray Charles


I've done many many 2p2 but like 2 ray Charles, its just harder to get that grip for the pretzel after the blind swap
Dec 10 2021 10:43AM
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IsaacNW82
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Well I'm not really a park skier, just a freerider that dabbles when the snow is shit, so my learning was pretty erratic.

First year was me becoming frustrated that I was a stereotypical freerider who could backflip and 360 and whatever but not even slide a rail. So one particularly bad early season in Vermont I just camped at my favorite fat flat tube and sessioned over and over again until I could finally slide, go on from the side, and land forwards or backwards. Then a few weeks later, bam shit snow again and I learned unnat slides, all four 2's, and lip ons. Then I didn't really ski much park and stagnated hard for a few years. Then on a trip to Steamboat recently with some friends it didn't snow at all so back to the park and got Kfeds, front swaps, (sometimes) back swaps and 2's on but only if its a really easy rail. I still can't really combo them well with the exception of kfeds.

So moral of the story is I
Dec 11 2021 9:47PM
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IsaacNW82
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IsaacNW82Well I'm not really a park skier, just a freerider that dabbles when the snow is shit, so my learning was pretty erratic.

First year was me becoming frustrated that I was a stereotypical freerider who could backflip and 360 and whatever but not even slide a rail. So one particularly bad early season in Vermont I just camped at my favorite fat flat tube and sessioned over and over again until I could finally slide, go on from the side, and land forwards or backwards. Then a few weeks later, bam shit snow again and I learned unnat slides, all four 2's, and lip ons. Then I didn't really ski much park and stagnated hard for a few years. Then on a trip to Steamboat recently with some friends it didn't snow at all so back to the park and got Kfeds, front swaps, (sometimes) back swaps and 2's on but only if its a really easy rail. I still can't really combo them well with the exception of kfeds.

So moral of the story is I


Not sure why it cut off the last sentence, but here ya go:

So moral of the story is I

*edit* it did it again,i give up

**This post was edited on Dec 11th 2021 at 9:55:13pm
Dec 11 2021 9:54PM
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MaimHelp
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I fell a lot, skiing isn’t natural for me at all.


fun tho
Dec 11 2021 11:36PM
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isaacwrong
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mrk127My summer setup was key for me


So tru...practically how I learned every rail variation. Fuq spending 40k on a ski academy to then just bum around. Rail progression first year was all 8. Next few years involve creating your own style in becoming confident in the tricks, landing switch, comfortable in the air etc.
Dec 12 2021 9:22AM
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Chrischi69
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I couldnt do them for my life then one day it clicked just keep grinding tbh. Also i tell everyone this LOOK AT THE END and yeah pedaling is good for spins and stuff
Dec 12 2021 9:18PM
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The.Fish
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Flat boxes > flat bar > small down bar > broken wrist > front 2 off flat box > more difficult rails from the side > blind 2 > front 4 > front surface on fat tube > front swaps > kfed > very sketchy 270 onto boxes > front swap to forward > blind 4 > blind swap (idk why i picked a kink on a z tube but it worked great).
Dec 13 2021 10:30AM
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Megamind
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Spent 3 years as a little fellow on non-park skis. Would jump on fat donkey rails and almost immediately slide off the other side. Then once I got park skis, I worked on a very wide and low flat rail to break the fear and get the feeling of sliding. That took a season. Then came going straight on like you are now, did that for a season. Then last year I just decided I needed to get on from the side. The big ticket for me with getting on from the side was to focus on keeping both skis parallel and under me, thinking of them as one unit. Another important part of getting on from the side for me was figuring out the optimal angle to leave the kicker, and to just expect to skip like the first 1/4 of the rail during your mounting jump. Also, I found it much easier to learn coming on from the side on round rails, I find it easier to lean either way to adjust if you don't land perfectly centered.

Now I've got that down, spent last season learning fun-shaped rails like down-flat-downs, rainbow rails, zig zag rails, etc. This year I'm hoping to learn lip on and getting on from switch.
Dec 13 2021 11:03AM
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Megamind
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r00kieThis is where I am. Can get down a fat tube but its just uncomfortable and not fun for me at this point. Rails just aren't my thing I guess.


I'm telling you my man, I consider myself adequately rail proficient, and I still get caught up on fat tubes every once and a while. Try small round rails, there's nothing to catch on, it's way easier imo.
Dec 13 2021 11:07AM
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muffMan.
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Yeah have been working on some side stuff. I figure I’ll learn peddling while I’m at it too, heard it can help with balance.
MegamindSpent 3 years as a little fellow on non-park skis. Would jump on fat donkey rails and almost immediately slide off the other side. Then once I got park skis, I worked on a very wide and low flat rail to break the fear and get the feeling of sliding. That took a season. Then came going straight on like you are now, did that for a season. Then last year I just decided I needed to get on from the side. The big ticket for me with getting on from the side was to focus on keeping both skis parallel and under me, thinking of them as one unit. Another important part of getting on from the side for me was figuring out the optimal angle to leave the kicker, and to just expect to skip like the first 1/4 of the rail during your mounting jump. Also, I found it much easier to learn coming on from the side on round rails, I find it easier to lean either way to adjust if you don't land perfectly centered.

Now I've got that down, spent last season learning fun-shaped rails like down-flat-downs, rainbow rails, zig zag rails, etc. This year I'm hoping to learn lip on and getting on from switch.
Dec 13 2021 11:36AM
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JLej
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switch 2 pretz 2 ambulance out
Dec 14 2021 1:16AM
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