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How to Save a Ski Town

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thepastapalace
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https://www.outsideonline.com/culture/essays-culture/how-to-save-a-ski-town-west-tourism-economy/?utm_source=pocket-newtab
4 years ago
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PeppermillReno
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They could just build more housing. Not that everyone in town wouldn't vote against people who pour their coffees having somewhere to live because it would add traffic/lift lines etc etc.
4 years ago
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Biffbarf
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Yo can we get a tldr
4 years ago
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eheath
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BiffbarfYo can we get a tldr


its almost like the author make this piece 10,000 words so nobody would actually read it.
4 years ago
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PeppermillReno
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Crested Butte sucks I hate the vibe there they try so hard to be an Aspen and the town is shitty Gunnison is cooler. They never open their steeps either. That bootpack program was lame they make you stomp all over the snow thats skiable and then not open it for a month until the next dump.

Fuck that place. Go ski Monarch with AT gear and go out into where they do the cat operations.
4 years ago
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Biffbarf
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eheathits almost like the author make this piece 10,000 words so nobody would actually read it.


I got a few paragraphs in and it was just the usual ski town bitching so I started scrolling to find answers and it just kept going and going and going
4 years ago
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hoodratz47
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Yeah because those new houses will suddenly become affordable. Or not just turn into short term rental.
PeppermillRenoThey could just build more housing. Not that everyone in town wouldn't vote against people who pour their coffees having somewhere to live because it would add traffic/lift lines etc etc.
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PeppermillReno
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hoodratz47Yeah because those new houses will suddenly become affordable. Or not just turn into short term rental.

This is just basic supply and demand at the end of the day and the supply has been reduced drastically everywhere. But as you say anything new tends to be the high end expensive shit.

The government used to build public housing 50+ years ago with our tax money how do you think projects or low income housing got here? Now they just make developers set aside 10% of the units to be 'low income.'
4 years ago
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hoodratz47
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But low income is a vauge level. If it's based of the median. Any ski town will be very high. Nonetheless. And with corruption and NIMBY low income rarely stands a chance.
PeppermillRenoThis is just basic supply and demand at the end of the day and the supply has been reduced drastically everywhere. But as you say anything new tends to be the high end expensive shit.

The government used to build public housing 50+ years ago with our tax money how do you think projects or low income housing got here? Now they just make developers set aside 10% of the units to be 'low income.'
4 years ago
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RIP_leos_shack
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BiffbarfYo can we get a tldr

Crested Butte tries to impose a $2500 per year tax on second homes. It fails. Talk is cheap, action is hard. No one has a place to live.
4 years ago
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lickmyballs
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this is how u save a ski town made easy for dummies. BURN EVERY FUCKING CALIFORNIA PLATED TESLA TO THE GROUND
4 years ago
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SmokedGouda
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Build 7 houses. Yes only 7 houses because more people than that is too much. So stay true and build only ONLY 7 houses.
4 years ago
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CLQ
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I'm sure the billionaire investor who owns the Dodgers has really good plans for Crested Butte since he now owns half the town.
4 years ago
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SmokedGouda
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CLQI'm sure the billionaire investor who owns the Dodgers has really good plans for Crested Butte since he now owns half the town.


Damnt. He'll fuck us up and build 8 houses. Motherfucker!
4 years ago
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IanAvery-Leaf
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RIP_leos_shackCrested Butte tries to impose a $2500 per year tax on second homes. It fails. Talk is cheap, action is hard. No one has a place to live.


even if that law did pass, lets be honest here:

do we think people who own a second home in CB, one of the most expensive zips in Colorado, would be threatened by an extra $2500 a year? A lot would pay around that for a big family/group dinner out at a fancy steakhouse....thats assuming there's enough staff to even operate it that night smh

not claiming to know the answers here, but $2500/year just seems like it won't budge the people in that position in the slightest
4 years ago
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jakeordie
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eheathits almost like the author make this piece 10,000 words so nobody would actually read it.

and yet somehow forgets to mention that Vail bought CB in 2018
4 years ago
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Static
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Outside magazine should carry more blame. These publications whoring out all the hidden gems of the world, then acting all shocked Pikachu that they are overrun.
4 years ago
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Static
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RIP_leos_shackCrested Butte tries to impose a $2500 per year tax on second homes. It fails. Talk is cheap, action is hard. No one has a place to live.


You can't legislate prosperity. Why should a rich family get a discount ski vacation? Should they not pay the true cost for their boot fitter? Why all this mandated shuffling of money to appease private businesses? If resorts won't pay a living wage, why should the government steal from its community to spare Vail Corp the cost of doing business?
4 years ago
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GayWolf420
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Ah yes, I want Outside Magazine to comment on the local issues in my community while acting like they aren't a part of the problem and their readers aren't also coming into ski towns to blow them up because its the cool hip thing to do in 2021. A lot of their opinionated pieces lately just scream virtue signaling marketing grabs

**This post was edited on Dec 1st 2021 at 12:46:22pm
4 years ago
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CLQ
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IanAvery-Leafeven if that law did pass, lets be honest here:

do we think people who own a second home in CB, one of the most expensive zips in Colorado, would be threatened by an extra $2500 a year? A lot would pay around that for a big family/group dinner out at a fancy steakhouse....thats assuming there's enough staff to even operate it that night smh

not claiming to know the answers here, but $2500/year just seems like it won't budge the people in that position in the slightest


People probably wouldn’t sell there second home over a $2500 tax, you’re right. But that money would have solely been used to create more affordable housing for the town which was the purpose of that tax.
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