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My Changed Perspective on Jiberish

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keagan.karstens
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Went to bed mad early last night so now I’m just chillin in my bed at 6am thinking too myself about skiing and stuff. And this isn’t a recent thought ive had this in my mind for a couple weeks now but it’s something I want to address and see what you guys think about it. @Jiberish i want to start by apologizing, all I used to hear about you guys is that you keep pumping out the same low quality graphic tees and shit and that you’re not what you used to be. I haven’t been into free skiing long enough to know what you “used to be”. But being the sheep I can be I carried that opinion with me and would always tell people the same things I heard about you guys. Which was totally not cool due to the fact that I had never even seen a piece of jiberish in my life. So I’m sorry for that. But recently about a month ago jiberish did a drop and one item was this black sun hoodie. Picture below


And I thought it was the coolest thing ever, so I was like “fuck it, fuck jiberish but that hoodie is just too sick not to buy”. And the reason I convinced myself to buy it was cuz I saw the hoodie graphic was stitched and not printed. So I ordered it, and I have no idea how you guys run your warehouse or whatever but that thing took almost 4 weeks to arrive. Which was not super sick but I have it now and it’s over so whatever. So I immediately open the package like a giddy little kid on Christmas. And first thing I notice is the quality. It was fantastic, like the material was super strong but still soft and the sides have ventilation and everything is stitched so clean and it’s just a super well made piece of clothing. And the next day I wore it skiing of course and showed my close homie and he was like holy shit that is really nice. And brought up that he’s bought two jiberish shirts and they’re the nicest and most comfortable shirts he’s ever owned. So basically I used to trash talk you @Jiberish and I am sorry, it was wrong of me and I take it back. You definitely proved me wrong and I’ll 100% be buying more jiberish in the future. Also pricing, I don’t love paying 62 for a hoodie but with jiberish you get what you pay for. Also Ik this sounds like they’re paying me to say this and I’m j suckin them off but I genuinely feel this way. But yes with the quality you get what you pay for. So that’s all for me but I’d like to know about your guy’s experiences with jiberish and how you feel about them. Because I used to only hear negative things but that perspective has definitely flipped. Let me know!

**This thread was edited on Nov 26th 2021 at 9:04:32am
Nov 26 2021 9:01AM
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Flynnski
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Ive only ordered from them once but I will say the hoodie is very nice and not too expensive as far as embroidered hoodies go
Nov 26 2021 9:31AM
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BLandz
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Have a couple of their jackets. One of them is my all time fav and the other one I use daily in the winter cuz its insulated
Nov 26 2021 9:34AM
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isaacwrong
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this past edition was by far the weakest black friday drop imo
Nov 26 2021 9:59AM
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broto
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$62 is cheap compared to what they used to sell for. Hoodies were like $80+ and the sought after ones would resell for higher than MSRP. I remember people paying $200+ for the og ignant vests and MVP hoodie that brogan used to wear
Nov 26 2021 10:01AM
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teabag
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Moral of the story: form your own opinions based on experience and not on gossip

also like $62 is pretty cheap for a hoodie in my opinion…
Nov 26 2021 10:51AM
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PimpChimpin
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They’ve definitely stepped up their shit within the last year, I bought the blue puffer that just dropped. Great work @Jiberish And yes, shipping takes atleast 3 weeks because I am sure they make the number they need after people purchase
Nov 26 2021 11:07AM
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muffMan.
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I felt the same tbh. I picked up a hood at my consignment shop but felt kinda bad quality.

but I love the psychic armor hoodie might just cop
Nov 26 2021 11:25AM
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lil.Boye
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Have two pieces. A lohi hoodie and a coach jacket. Both from the early 2010’s. Super sick and good quality.
they also support joona kangas which is one of my favorite skiers
Nov 26 2021 1:37PM
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FruitBootPro
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Jiberish pieces nowadays literally do not look any worse than the grails you see on this site's BST pages
Nov 26 2021 1:46PM
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Dilldoes
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Took my engagement photos in a @Jiberish Tshirt. I've never had an issue with quality like ever.
Nov 26 2021 1:55PM
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Quaggy
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I think the frustration with Jiberish stems from the apparent shift in their target audience. It used to be skiers and now it seems to be catered more towards sadboys and edge lords. "Lol I do drugs guyz
I've got several pieces of Jiberish from hats to jackets and everything inbetween, their style just "ain't what it used to be" during the LoHi and years past.
Nov 26 2021 2:44PM
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LiLg
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' dA $un i$ h.i.g.h. + so m.i. '

cool
Nov 26 2021 3:11PM
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Plankton
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As someone who has been buying Jiberish for almost 10 years now (still not a relatively long time for some of the people on this site) ... this is so funny, but also so awesome to read
Nov 26 2021 8:48PM
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eheath
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QuaggyI think the frustration with Jiberish stems from the apparent shift in their target audience. It used to be skiers and now it seems to be catered more towards sadboys and edge lords. "Lol I do drugs guyz
I've got several pieces of Jiberish from hats to jackets and everything inbetween, their style just "ain't what it used to be" during the LoHi and years past.


The hoodie in the OP is a copy of the sun valley logo, it doesnt have anything to do with drugs.
Nov 26 2021 8:53PM
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Quaggy
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eheathThe hoodie in the OP is a copy of the sun valley logo, it doesnt have anything to do with drugs.

OP has a cool hoodie, most of Jiberish ain't cool tho, like the shirt I posted
Nov 26 2021 9:10PM
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leprechaunsissy
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Love how threads like this have nothing to do with skiing.
Nov 26 2021 9:13PM
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eheath
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QuaggyOP has a cool hoodie, most of Jiberish ain't cool tho, like the shirt I posted


Fair enough but if anything, Jiberish gives me like a high end street clothing vibe more than edgy zoomers.
Nov 26 2021 9:13PM
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isaacwrong
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eheathFair enough but if anything, Jiberish gives me like a high end street clothing vibe more than edgy zoomers.


this is fax...as said in the previous jiberish thread a few months ago. the new smartwool collab is def catered to the street wear fanny pack teenager with mums credit card
Nov 26 2021 9:20PM
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Chunderface
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shits pretty weak tbh
Nov 26 2021 10:29PM
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FruitBootPro
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leprechaunsissyLove how threads like this have nothing to do with skiing.


Yeah, a clothing brand marketed towards freeskiers obviously has nothing to do with skiing
Nov 26 2021 10:49PM
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PimpChimpin
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eheathFair enough but if anything, Jiberish gives me like a high end street clothing vibe more than edgy zoomers.


STOP WITH THE ZOOMER BS EHEATH IM TIRED OF IT
Nov 26 2021 10:53PM
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keagan.karstens
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Tf is a zoomer
Nov 26 2021 10:54PM
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PimpChimpin
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keagan.karstensTf is a zoomer


Gen z version of boomer
Nov 26 2021 10:55PM
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leprechaunsissy
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If Jiberish the clothing brand is a skiing brand, then I indeed had no idea..
FruitBootProYeah, a clothing brand marketed towards freeskiers obviously has nothing to do with skiing
Nov 26 2021 11:15PM
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Chunderface
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leprechaunsissyIf Jiberish the clothing brand is a skiing brand, then I indeed had no idea..


It was a core freeski brand. Started by 3 skiers. The direction seemed like it changed around the time Gabe left, and now you cant really tell it has much to do with skiing unless you've been around a while.

**This post was edited on Nov 26th 2021 at 11:27:31pm
Nov 26 2021 11:26PM
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vibe.crudo
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Jiberish isn’t what it used to be, that’s a fact.

But for some reason everyone thinks that change is always bad. I kinda like being able to wear skier-owned and skier inspired streetwear. Like yeah they’ve dropped some of lamest T shirts I’ve ever seen, but every single drop, without failure, they release at least one genuinely nice piece of clothing, most of the time they drop multiple. To be able to do that month after month, year after year, is really impressive to say the least. Plus you’re right their quality is S tier their shit is so comfy
Nov 27 2021 1:40AM
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Skiblade420
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Sounds like their quality is good then.

wish their graphics were better instead of looking like some crud you find at urban outfitters / target
Nov 27 2021 3:22AM
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little1337
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My life is meaningless without the Jiberish/ Level 1 striped crewneck
Nov 27 2021 8:51AM
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J-Dunn
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two things that come to my mind personal and number one is the shift in target audience as mentioned above. However ……. You said you loved the design of the hoody you bought, I personally can’t stand it. I guess that’s the difference in generations and age but you maybe are the new target audience and as a business you should shoot to make what the kids are buying if you want to stay in the game. So, I definitely get it. But personally I don’t like company’s or people that sell out to that magnitude, like we all sell out a little. I got a job, I sell out so my kids can have a good up bringing. Would love to be a ski bum but the kids are first man and me being a ski bum is second. So secondly …… the target price is what it is and I understand that its some quality shit! However, it has always been quality ….. right. The old Jibrish shit I got was the most comfy I’ve ever been in a hoody, great sizing as well (in the past, idk about now). So the quality was always great man, and the price was steep and is steep now. But, the amount of colors and details and design time and it just seems effort in making like a certain look and standing out and being a special brand through design has went away completely. So same prices as in the past, but less time designing, less thought into each piece, the fact that printing in 1 or 2 colors max is always way cheaper then a bunch of them (same with fabric colors). Just seems like a sell out move. I don’t want to hate because I’m sure they did what they did to make a living out of a hobby and that’s dope……but personally I couldn’t take something I have passion for and just like do that with it…….
so imma hate on it,
but at the same time give them props for making it. Just not buying personally
Nov 27 2021 9:28AM
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Young_patty
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Op would cum his pants over old jiberish













Like sorry dawg but the team fell apart, their stores closed, the original owners split from the company, and now it’s mostly cheap shirts and hoodies sold through Instagram.
Nov 27 2021 11:07AM
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J-Dunn
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I wouldn’t even consider any of that old Jiberish
Young_pattyOp would cum his pants over old jiberish













Like sorry dawg but the team fell apart, their stores closed, the original owners split from the company, and now it’s mostly cheap shirts and hoodies sold through Instagram.
Nov 27 2021 11:41AM
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SuspiciousFish
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J-DunnI wouldn’t even consider any of that old Jiberish


I still remember this collab back in the day. Pretty much brought together everything I loved:

Nov 27 2021 12:00PM
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PimpChimpin
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Young_pattyOp would cum his pants over old jiberish













Like sorry dawg but the team fell apart, their stores closed, the original owners split from the company, and now it’s mostly cheap shirts and hoodies sold through Instagram.

Call it what you want but I actually prefer this new shit over whatever that is. Just my opinion lol

**This post was edited on Nov 27th 2021 at 12:28:21pm
Nov 27 2021 12:25PM
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gravel
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Young_pattyOp would cum his pants over old jiberish

Like sorry dawg but the team fell apart, their stores closed, the original owners split from the company, and now it’s mostly cheap shirts and hoodies sold through Instagram.


don’t talk shit you don’t know about. two of the original owners pete drago and dave boger still own jiberish and have plenty of brand input but with much of the direction guided by some younger, really motivated, legacy respecting crew.

jiberish hardly had the coin to sustain their og crew to the heights a lot of those guys ascended to, let alone retail shops in demver, pc, boston. which is fine.

jiberish is still backing more skiing projects and people these days in the last 3 years than they did anytime in the 5+ years previous. most gutter this year only happened because jiberish hustled more financial support than any other sponsor of that video.

if you had any of their new shit you’d know that their clothing is high quality, so is the screen printing.

if you guys don’t like the aesthetic of some of the pieces, don’t buy them. they can attract colorado stereotypes with those pieces, get money off of it, and recirculate that into ski projects and skiers making dope shit in the community.

miss me with your small brand hate, shit has to change and grow but jiberish didn’t abandon its roots even if they look different than they did in 2008.
Nov 27 2021 12:28PM
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FruitBootPro
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Young_pattyOp would cum his pants over old jiberish









Like sorry dawg but the team fell apart, their stores closed, the original owners split from the company, and now it’s mostly cheap shirts and hoodies sold through Instagram.


bro how do these pieces in particular look any different from what they put out now lmao
Nov 27 2021 1:09PM
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-Dan
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I back Jiberish tough. Good people up and down plus a well run brand that puts out great edits and supports street skiing.

It’s all good if you have some old head nostalgia about this clothing. Shit, I wear a jiberish flannel from 2010 most days, so I can feel where you are coming from. In general, we Gotta leave room in our expectations for people and brands to become what they want to be and not pigeon hole their creativity/direction because of what they were.
At the end of the day, if you aren’t buying cause you don’t like the look then it’s No problem. Clearly someone else is buying. Def not here for the Jiberish brand slander tho.
Nov 27 2021 1:12PM
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dwt802
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-DanI back Jiberish tough. Good people up and down plus a well run brand that puts out great edits and supports street skiing.

It’s all good if you have some old head nostalgia about this clothing. Shit, I wear a jiberish flannel from 2010 most days, so I can feel where you are coming from. In general, we Gotta leave room in our expectations for people and brands to become what they want to be and not pigeon hole their creativity/direction because of what they were.
At the end of the day, if you aren’t buying cause you don’t like the look then it’s No problem. Clearly someone else is buying. Def not here for the Jiberish brand slander tho.


Dan you said it beautifully
Nov 27 2021 1:21PM
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casual
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Uhh…or 30 somethings with decent paying jobs who spend 50 hours a week in base layer, ski socks, and balaclavas but also love free skiing and repping brands that have a history in the sport?

It’s the cool thing to hate on Jiberish, but honestly that’s dumb as fuck and the equivalent to hating on ON3P to me.

Those brands are of this community, and even though neither of them caters exclusively to the NS park crowd at this point, they’re still us. Jiberish would’ve never survived selling 150 huge hoodies a year to a niche ski audience. ON3P would’ve never survived only building park skis. Not to mention…a lot of us who have supported those brands for….15 yearsish don’t want to wear tall hoodies anymore and spend more time out of the park than in it.

I don’t know if it’s because some of you guys live in small rural towns, or what, but look around in cities. People wear flight pants, puffies, lil Steve zissou hats and shit. When I see people in huge hoodies they usually have jorts and white air forces on and shit.

Jiberish still makes big hoodies if you want em, but they also sell some other high quality stuff that I may not personally want to wear, but people do.

I just hate seeing people shit on a company that is so tied into this very site. Especially when, no offense, a lot of them were 6-8 years old when Jiberish popped.
isaacwrongthis is fax...as said in the previous jiberish thread a few months ago. the new smartwool collab is def catered to the street wear fanny pack teenager with mums credit card
Nov 27 2021 1:29PM
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casual
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This is exactly what I’m talking about, LOL. Beat it, dude.
leprechaunsissyIf Jiberish the clothing brand is a skiing brand, then I indeed had no idea..
Nov 27 2021 1:30PM
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casual
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-DanI back Jiberish tough. Good people up and down plus a well run brand that puts out great edits and supports street skiing.

It’s all good if you have some old head nostalgia about this clothing. Shit, I wear a jiberish flannel from 2010 most days, so I can feel where you are coming from. In general, we Gotta leave room in our expectations for people and brands to become what they want to be and not pigeon hole their creativity/direction because of what they were.
At the end of the day, if you aren’t buying cause you don’t like the look then it’s No problem. Clearly someone else is buying. Def not here for the Jiberish brand slander tho.

This is the ONLY take.
Nov 27 2021 1:32PM
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isaacwrong
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casualUhh…or 30 somethings with decent paying jobs who spend 50 hours a week in base layer, ski socks, and balaclavas but also love free skiing and repping brands that have a history in the sport?

I feel like this statement is very contradicting...working in the ski industry, (specifically mountain ops as you have implied) does not correlate to a "decent paying job". Most are minimum wage, don't require a college degree, no benefits and seasonal. Smartwool functions great and is long lasting. I just don't see either one of those pieces/style of clothing being functional in a skiing aspect. Especially the wear and tear most gear takes on. I'd hate to drop $140 on those and they end up smelling like bo stank.
Nov 27 2021 3:01PM
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casual
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isaacwrongI feel like this statement is very contradicting...working in the ski industry, (specifically mountain ops as you have implied) does not correlate to a "decent paying job". Most are minimum wage, don't require a college degree, no benefits and seasonal. Smartwool functions great and is long lasting. I just don't see either one of those pieces/style of clothing being functional in a skiing aspect. Especially the wear and tear most gear takes on. I'd hate to drop $140 on those and they end up smelling like bo stank.

I’ve been in mountain ops for over a decade, make a great living, and like smart wool products, so 🤷‍♂️.

A 19 year old lifty probably doesn’t make a decent living. A 37 year old in a leadership role does though.



But…whatever. Never seen a teenage hype beast give a fuck about smart wool. I’ll take your word for it.


My overall point is that your portrayal of Jiberish is misguided. You don’t speak for everyone, neither do I, but there’s a hell of a lot of people whose lives revolve around the mountains wearing that stuff.

edit: I also didn’t imply you have to be in mountain ops. Tons of healthcare workers, fire fighters, paramedics, summer construction hustlers, high end servers/bartenders/restaurant management ski 4-5 days a week and make great incomes.

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**This post was edited on Nov 27th 2021 at 6:24:24pm
Nov 27 2021 6:20PM
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casual
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isaacwrongI feel like this statement is very contradicting...working in the ski industry, (specifically mountain ops as you have implied) does not correlate to a "decent paying job". Most are minimum wage, don't require a college degree, no benefits and seasonal. Smartwool functions great and is long lasting. I just don't see either one of those pieces/style of clothing being functional in a skiing aspect. Especially the wear and tear most gear takes on. I'd hate to drop $140 on those and they end up smelling like bo stank.


I also want to say that you are what…22? 24? You were 8 or something by the looks of your profile when Jiberish launched and became the most significant softgoods manufacturer immersed in freeski culture this side of Siver Cartel and Saga. I don’t feel like you really have the perspective or understand the context of why Jiberish is so important to this community to weigh in credibly.

If anything, it makes perfect sense for them to link up with a legit base layer/performance soft goods company to collaborate with. I wear smart wool stuff daily. Usually it’s on a proform, sure, but I’ll pay a premium to rep my/out roots.

it just gets old seeing people with no actual attachment or association with the classic brands declaring this or that as irrelevant or pandering to some external audience, when I’m literally telling you as someone who has been around this community for a long time that it gets a lot of love and produces quality stuff.

It’s just clear it’s become cool to talk shit on Jiberish and I don’t think it a coincidence for that opinion to be largely pushed by people that in this very thread have admitted not knowing there’s even a skiing connection with the brand (despite some of the most iconic content being produced by them).
Nov 27 2021 6:32PM
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SuspiciousFish
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I think the current lineup is better than some of the stuff they had 2 years ago which was trash IMO. At least they are using art and design instead of some basic stencil with 'Jiberish' written underneath. At the end of the day the art style in skiing and in general has changed a lot from the 2000s. I really miss the old days of cool scripts and abstract symbols and designs put together and nowadays its things like block lettering on a little flag etc.

Different brands have always collaborated and the Smartwool x Jiberish stuff is pretty dope if you ask me. Smartwool has been on top of the ski socks game for decades anyway.
Nov 27 2021 7:32PM
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Evantheshredster
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love jib got like 6 pieces i cherish
Nov 27 2021 7:35PM
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*TURBONERD*
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-DanI back Jiberish tough. Good people up and down plus a well run brand that puts out great edits and supports street skiing.

It’s all good if you have some old head nostalgia about this clothing. Shit, I wear a jiberish flannel from 2010 most days, so I can feel where you are coming from. In general, we Gotta leave room in our expectations for people and brands to become what they want to be and not pigeon hole their creativity/direction because of what they were.
At the end of the day, if you aren’t buying cause you don’t like the look then it’s No problem. Clearly someone else is buying. Def not here for the Jiberish brand slander tho.

Unsurprisingly, Dan nailed it. I really don't know what more you could expect from a brand their size in terms of supporting freeskiing - their current team is stacked, and assuming their current rider list page is accurate, some riders who are either seriously injured or otherwise not putting out much content at the moment. That's not something you can take for granted from small brands in this industry. Sure, most of their pieces don't explicitly reference skiing, but they never did. Fashion changes, and brands change with them, but they've never stopped supporting this sport.

Also, I regularly wear a 2010 flannel that's on its last legs. Anybody who's got a purple royal, hit me up.

Finally, anybody who doesn't think Smartwool (and merino in general) is awesome is a fool, particularly if you're a grimy skier. Merino is great about not holding odor.
Nov 27 2021 11:24PM
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Film.
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Their hoodie sizing right now is wack.
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