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RyanWhitdog? If it’s hot in x then it’s cold in y? I don’t think that’s how this works. Average monthly temperatures across US cities have slowly been rising every 10 years without fail since at the least 1950 and the trend isn’t even close to appearing to be slowing down or heading in the opposite direction dude.
Temperatures on average have been rising, yes. My point is for instance if it's warm and dry in California and we are stuck in a high pressure zone, that means it's cold and wet in near the low pressure zone. Right now it's up north in Alaska and Canada through to the east coast. It's not really a debatable topic, it's just how the weather works. Here is a visual.. temperature contour of north America now (while we are high and dry) vs Dec 10th (when the storm is predicted). Keep note on where that green belt is and also how a low pressure zone which is currently near Hawaii shifts to the west coast and a high pressure zone builds in off the west coast of Canada causing the low pressure area to be over California.
In simple terms, Hawaii cold move to California. Now Hawaii warm, but California cold.
RyanWhitdogI do agree though and see what you’re saying in the sense that once some crazy stuff starts happening, that’s when we’ll actually start to take it seriously enough. I think it’ll be too late for so many mountains at that point though.
True, but other mountains could be getting it better. We are disappointed that it seems like every year is a La Nina year, which people equate to CA being dry, but a La Nina year for Washington and Canada means above average snowfall. Like I said, it's a balance. Climate change means more extremes, more extreme hot but also more extreme cold. Overall, warmer on average, but more noticably, more extremes.
betzTemperatures on average have been rising, yes. My point is for instance if it's warm and dry in California and we are stuck in a high pressure zone, that means it's cold and wet in near the low pressure zone. Right now it's up north in Alaska and Canada through to the east coast. It's not really a debatable topic, it's just how the weather works. Here is a visual.. temperature contour of north America now (while we are high and dry) vs Dec 10th (when the storm is predicted). Keep note on where that green belt is and also how a low pressure zone which is currently near Hawaii shifts to the west coast and a high pressure zone builds in off the west coast of Canada causing the low pressure area to be over California.
In simple terms, Hawaii cold move to California. Now Hawaii warm, but California cold.
Makes sense. I think my frustration is..Will this even matter if surface temperatures continue to rise at 0.15 degree F per decade which from what I understand is the current clip we’re at since 1900 and post to that we made even bigger jumps (0.31 to 0.54 degrees per decade since the late 1970s to now). Which seems to be coming true is spikes in temps. I always remember my grandfather telling me about the mountain he grew up skiing here on the east coast being open every year, no snow machines December to February. Now we need to pump snow like crazy to even have a base.
To top my depression off I was reading this article from U Wash this morning
Hurts my soul y’all but guess we’ll see how this goes and hopefully like you have been saying, entrepreneurship and innovation can help us drastically change course. I truly believe that private capital markets and entrepreneurship is the United States true super power and we have the ability to address this once (real) full backing is there.
betzTrue, but other mountains could be getting it better. We are disappointed that it seems like every year is a La Nina year, which people equate to CA being dry, but a La Nina year for Washington and Canada means above average snowfall. Like I said, it's a balance. Climate change means more extremes, more extreme hot but also more extreme cold. Overall, warmer on average, but more noticably, more extremes.
True! We’ll send some of that cold my way next winter lol. Summers have even been brutal here mid July - mid August for the past few years seem to be 90-95 degrees every day with 80% humidity so chalk any outdoor activity as enjoyable outside of a pool day.
betzTemperatures on average have been rising, yes. My point is for instance if it's warm and dry in California and we are stuck in a high pressure zone, that means it's cold and wet in near the low pressure zone. Right now it's up north in Alaska and Canada through to the east coast. It's not really a debatable topic, it's just how the weather works. Here is a visual.. temperature contour of north America now (while we are high and dry) vs Dec 10th (when the storm is predicted). Keep note on where that green belt is and also how a low pressure zone which is currently near Hawaii shifts to the west coast and a high pressure zone builds in off the west coast of Canada causing the low pressure area to be over California.
In simple terms, Hawaii cold move to California. Now Hawaii warm, but California cold.
Wow I did not realize how good my analogy was in this case.
RyanWhitdogApply to become a weather man at your local station now use these screen shots as you application.
Lol I should right. Other qualifications: ski group chat veteran weather man for 3 years running lol.
Nah in reality Bryan Allegretto is the best man in the world for the job and pretty sure I'd be taking a pay cut. I'll stick to my current job of facilitating global warming for the comfort of the masses ;)
twonsarellisick. hopefully they give us a real opening date soon! how many NSers can we get at kirkwood opening day?
I'll be there on sunday if they're open I think. But it's early season so I'll probably go wherever isn't "white ribbon of death" scenario lol. Kirkwood upper mountains still looking like it's got october snow though.
I just read bryan allegrettos Weather blog, he said it was looking good for the rest of the month, with lots of snow next week and cold temps through the end of the month we looking good boys
twonsarelligood golly miss molly. let's hope that's remotely accurate!
Storm is only 7 days out. It's almost certainly happening. Question is... exactly how much?
Also, GFS is showing wave on wave of storms after this one but that one may not be remotely accurate haha. 06z run showed 234" between now and Dec 23rd.
betzStorm is only 7 days out. It's almost certainly happening. Question is... exactly how much?
Also, GFS is showing wave on wave of storms after this one but that one may not be remotely accurate haha. 06z run showed 234" between now and Dec 23rd.
"The GFS and ICON models are showing over 6 inches of total precip by Sunday - Monday night! The Canadian and European models are showing 2-3 inches. A lot of the difference seems to be what happens Sunday. Do we see a few snow showers starting Sunday afternoon, or heavy snow into Sunday night?
We will have to iron out the timing and total precipitation amounts as we get closer."
Just stinks that even if we get dumped on now, the lack of early season base means the season will likely be short. Doubt we'll be skiing July 4th in 2022 =(
dmcdmcJust stinks that even if we get dumped on now, the lack of early season base means the season will likely be short. Doubt we'll be skiing July 4th in 2022 =(
A lot can happen between now and then. Our season isn't determined in November or December. Our snowpack is built February-April
Haven’t you ever heard of miracle March?! Awful season 2017-18. Got something like 20ft in 2 weeks in March. We were skiing well into summer.
dmcdmcJust stinks that even if we get dumped on now, the lack of early season base means the season will likely be short. Doubt we'll be skiing July 4th in 2022 =(
BrandoComandoA lot can happen between now and then. Our season isn't determined in November or December. Our snowpack is built February-April
dmcdmcJust stinks that even if we get dumped on now, the lack of early season base means the season will likely be short. Doubt we'll be skiing July 4th in 2022 =(
dmcdmcJust stinks that even if we get dumped on now, the lack of early season base means the season will likely be short. Doubt we'll be skiing July 4th in 2022 =(
lol. If youre skiing on july 4th, thats a blessing. You only get that maybe 20% of seasons at best. Its not just a normal occurrence.
Everyone should be happy if the season lasts through the middle of april before the snowpack starts getting completely fucked.
DingoSeanlol. If youre skiing on july 4th, thats a blessing. You only get that maybe 20% of seasons at best. Its not just a normal occurrence.
Everyone should be happy if the season lasts through the middle of april before the snowpack starts getting completely fucked.
for sure. far more concerned with the latest opening day i've ever seen here than whether or not i can ski on july 4, especially since i'm always knees deep in biking at that point
