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ButteryStix69It is really heartbreaking, I only go to PC a few times every season, but I feel awful for any locals out there. Praying for snow.
Zac.suremanAre mountains not making snow to open early or even around thanksgiving? It doesn’t seem like at least the larger corporate mountains aren’t in a rush to open.
c-friesMontana’s dry as a bone. Judging by Instagram people are actually going to show up to big sky and try to ski in 4 days. Lol
skeirmanAbasin, Copper, Key, and WP are all above average for snowfall right now.
partyandBSand park skiing is in a decline.
partyandBSSo i know Breck is 64% of average. I find it hard to believe 3 other mountains in the same county are above 100% of average. I doubt anyone is even at 80%. Wtf is your source lol
ButteryStix69It is really heartbreaking, I only go to PC a few times every season, but I feel awful for any locals out there. Praying for snow.
r00kieIt's pretty common for the percentage stat to be all over the place early season just because the numerical stat is low yet. One three inch snowfall can swing the percentage stat pretty significantly in November but will hardly change it come March.
partyandBSSo i know Breck is 64% of average. I find it hard to believe 3 other mountains in the same county are above 100% of average. I doubt anyone is even at 80%. Wtf is your source lol
tri_photoOut here in the PNW, it hasn't been too abnormal... I'm sure everything will be opened up in the next 4-5 weeks
BreslinThey all just realized it's only season pass holders, and they make sure ya'll buy those way ahead of time so they already got the money in the bank. Blame it on warm temps or whatever, but there have been plenty of nights sub freezing here in NH and barely even see a gun test aside from Killington. 100% fuck vail
eheathJust because the low is "below freezing" doesn't mean it's practical to make snow.
Also, every large resort has been pre-selling passes since the beginning of time, its not like this year is different.
We've seen years like this before, last year was similar to this year, 2017 was similar as well. Some years in utah, it doesn't snow at all in november and the faucets open up in december.
Sometimes it's like last year and 2017 where it just doesn't snow much until january. I wouldn't necessarily point to this year specifically as particularly bad year, it's still early, but its a bad start thats for sure.
eheathJust because the low is "below freezing" doesn't mean it's practical to make snow.
Also, every large resort has been pre-selling passes since the beginning of time, its not like this year is different.
We've seen years like this before, last year was similar to this year, 2017 was similar as well. Some years in utah, it doesn't snow at all in november and the faucets open up in december.
Sometimes it's like last year and 2017 where it just doesn't snow much until january. I wouldn't necessarily point to this year specifically as particularly bad year, it's still early, but its a bad start thats for sure.
r00kieThe magic number I have always heard for snowmaking is 27f.
PimpChimpinWe have two prime days for making snow though coming up, low of 18 and 16
SkiBum.Also, for the east coast people wondering and complaining - the biggest issue most resorts, and Vail owned resorts are facing right now are staffing shortages. Okemo usually has a staff of 20-30 snowmakers. Last I heard they had 4...
SkiBum.Also, for the east coast people wondering and complaining - the biggest issue most resorts, and Vail owned resorts are facing right now are staffing shortages. Okemo usually has a staff of 20-30 snowmakers. Last I heard they had 4...
Also temps on the east have been marginal so far, and that is being polite. Tonight is the first decent night for snowmaking in Catskill, NEPA region.
Source on this? I run a ski area. And I am staring at temps waiting to turn on.
eheathIt's all about "wet bulb" which is a measure of temperature and humidity. 28 degrees wet bulb is the minimum and even so thats still not very efficient.
They'll be lucky to get 10 hours of good snowmaking, as soon as the sun comes up it gets too warm, I'd be surprised if PC opens by the weekend, but its possible.
**This post was edited on Nov 22nd 2021 at 2:46:44pm
PimpChimpinI think it’s possible pc could open this weekend because home run has some good coverage but I think it’s best if they wait maybe 4 days to make some snow
PimpChimpinI think it’s possible pc could open this weekend because home run has some good coverage but I think it’s best if they wait maybe 4 days to make some snow
DeebieSkeebiesIdeally yeah. That would be preferred. It was fun last year but with the combination of turkey day crowds + reservations made things a little hectic up there for what they had open. It would be cool if they opened up early next week after the holiday crowds go home and get things whipped into shape for xmas. It's cold and dry but not much snow in the forecast, so expect groomer skiing till the new year unless something wild happens.
**This post was edited on Nov 22nd 2021 at 5:41:43pm
NotaskibumY'all gotta chill. Last season sucked too until it started dumping like no tomorrow.
SmokedGoudaWell, this season just seems to be starting slow for anywhere south of Wyoming. Colorado looks like it might catch up in December but other states like Arizona and New Mexico are lost causes usually in La Niña years. To be honest, ever since the 1980-81 season, ski resorts have been extremely lucky to pump out decent snow totals every year give or take how they would normally do when the pattern lines up(la Niña and El Niño effects). One thing to mention though is we may very well see another 1980-81 or 1976-77 season pretty soon here. We’re way overdue for one however, I think California’s drought that persisted a half decade ago supplemented for that. It’s a pain looking at NOAA precip maps over a 100 years and seeing a huge decline in the west that may be more so attributed to changing weather patterns as opposed to a warming climate(arctic to blame?). It’s just really variable right now. Vail is also at 1% because this season(thanks to snowmaking) is the earliest they’ve ever opened. They’re now expanded to almost 200 acres. Think we can agree that early openings are nice, but slow starts suck ass.
**This post was edited on Nov 28th 2021 at 6:40:43am
PeppermillRenoLast year was a late start due to corona. I’m scared that 2 years of late starts in a row combined with housing shortages means resorts won’t even try to open before Dec 10. Places will get nuked in November and not open and a week before opening day it’ll rain and kill the base.
November is an important ski month for me I get pushed out by the people with money Jan and Feb so try and load up early season days.
DesertStixI thought this was the case and was so confused a couple months back when a smaller NM hill posted on Instagram “La Nina is here!” as if it were a great, promotable thing. Like, isn’t that bad for you?
skeirmanNovember is almost over and most resorts are open.
