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What is more satisfying to you in a subwoofer: length (xmax) or girth (cone diameter)?
Despite the strange innuendo wording this is actually a legit subwoofer topic. The general rule is the more a cone has to move the more it distorts. So an 8'' woofer with 1'' Xmax typically wont sound as clean as a 15'' subwoofer with a 1/2'' Xmax. That is why high output smaller subs are typically more expensive because they need much higher quality components to achieve a high output with low distortion. 15'' is the best size for subwoofers IMO.
The general rule for subs is that they can be loud, compact or cheap and you get to pick two.
SuspiciousFishDespite the strange innuendo wording this is actually a legit subwoofer topic. The general rule is the more a cone has to move the more it distorts. So an 8'' woofer with 1'' Xmax typically wont sound as clean as a 15'' subwoofer with a 1/2'' Xmax. That is why high output smaller subs are typically more expensive because they need much higher quality components to achieve a high output with low distortion. 15'' is the best size for subwoofers IMO.
The general rule for subs is that they can be loud, compact or cheap and you get to pick two.
Yup. Right now my current setup at my house is
one of these:
one of these:
And one of these:
I know you true audiophiles will say the jbl partybox 100 is not professional grade, but i would challenge that notion. With the partybox lineup of battery enabled bluetooth speakers from jbl, the sound quality is fantastic and the balance of the full frequency range is unbelievable for a standalone 250$ speaker. Jbl is owned by harman which is owned by samsung, and samsung doesnt fuck around.
as for the 8 and 12 inch sunfire subwoofers i have, if you purchased these 2 subs for the avg price they get listed for you would be looking at spending about 4000$ all together. But i was somehow able to nab the 2 of them for about 1200$ together. They are incredibly loud and the sound coming from them is very clean and powerful, and they are incredibly loud at low frequencies in to 15-30 hz range.
with the jbl pb 100 covering mid and high frequencies (also it is very adept at covering bass frequencies itself, and has 3 bass boost modes), and the 2 sunfire subs covering the bass frequencies, the system together is incredible.
it probably seems hodgepodge but honestly you dont need to have the same brand of speaker covering all parts of the audio spectrum. If a speaker covers its bases well and has quality sound, it can be matched with other quality speakers of other brands and sound great in unison.
one thing that bothers me about professional subwoofers (concert events etc..) is that most of them are only flat down to like 35hz and then dbs drop off like a cliff. You dont get that drop off in many home subwoofers like my sunfire xteq 12, which is flat down to 16 hz. Granted, an 18 inch professional horn loaded subwoofer will push 130+ db at 40hz, but if one of your favorite songs has a loud bass segment at 20 hz your pro sub is going to sound so pathetic you will probably chuck the bitch out the fucking window in disgust for choking to death on your favorite song. Some pro subs are advertised as having a super low frequency extension, but in general, if you want your stereo to honor the truly deep bass notes of your favorite songs or movies, its much easier to find a home audio subwoofer that will make your house feel like its going to collapse at 15 hz.
Tldr: i am a totally awesome person and my home stereo setup is a testament to my awesomeness.
I know you true audiophiles will say the jbl partybox 100 is not professional grade, but i would challenge that notion. With the partybox lineup of battery enabled bluetooth speakers from jbl, the sound quality is fantastic and the balance of the full frequency range is unbelievable for a standalone 250$ speaker. Jbl is owned by harman which is owned by samsung, and samsung doesnt fuck around.
as for the 8 and 12 inch sunfire subwoofers i have, if you purchased these 2 subs for the avg price they get listed for you would be looking at spending about 4000$ all together. But i was somehow able to nab the 2 of them for about 1200$ together. They are incredibly loud and the sound coming from them is very clean and powerful, and they are incredibly loud at low frequencies in to 15-30 hz range.
with the jbl pb 100 covering mid and high frequencies (also it is very adept at covering bass frequencies itself, and has 3 bass boost modes), and the 2 sunfire subs covering the bass frequencies, the system together is incredible.
it probably seems hodgepodge but honestly you dont need to have the same brand of speaker covering all parts of the audio spectrum. If a speaker covers its bases well and has quality sound, it can be matched with other quality speakers of other brands and sound great in unison.
one thing that bothers me about professional subwoofers (concert events etc..) is that most of them are only flat down to like 35hz and then dbs drop off like a cliff. You dont get that drop off in many home subwoofers like my sunfire xteq 12, which is flat down to 16 hz. Granted, an 18 inch professional horn loaded subwoofer will push 130+ db at 40hz, but if one of your favorite songs has a loud bass segment at 20 hz your pro sub is going to sound so pathetic you will probably chuck the bitch out the fucking window in disgust for choking to death on your favorite song. Some pro subs are advertised as having a super low frequency extension, but in general, if you want your stereo to honor the truly deep bass notes of your favorite songs or movies, its much easier to find a home audio subwoofer that will make your house feel like its going to collapse at 15 hz.
Tldr: i am a totally awesome person and my home stereo setup is a testament to my awesomeness.
Sunfire makes good subs for sure. They are passive radiator too which means no port noise or chuffing. Personally I am rocking a Dayton Audio 15'' HF Subwoofer in an old MFW 15 slot ported box and a 300W Dayton Audio sub amp. I am really happy with the performance and it will drop the floor out of the room with no distortion. Its not as fast as I want to keep up with my LaScalas but I plan on building a horn loaded sub with the woofer and amp sometime soon.
Pro Subs have their place but the extension does leave something to be desired, especially if you are using it as a Home Theater sub. In a typical big room like a club its almost impossible to throw a loud 20hz wave anyway so they focus more on SPL and efficiency.
SuspiciousFishSunfire makes good subs for sure. They are passive radiator too which means no port noise or chuffing. Personally I am rocking a Dayton Audio 15'' HF Subwoofer in an old MFW 15 slot ported box and a 300W Dayton Audio sub amp. I am really happy with the performance and it will drop the floor out of the room with no distortion. Its not as fast as I want to keep up with my LaScalas but I plan on building a horn loaded sub with the woofer and amp sometime soon.
Pro Subs have their place but the extension does leave something to be desired, especially if you are using it as a Home Theater sub. In a typical big room like a club its almost impossible to throw a loud 20hz wave anyway so they focus more on SPL and efficiency.
Nice. Ive seen this DA sub before and it looked like it had very good performance for the price.
