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HypeBeastYou. Are. Gooooooonnaaaa get banned! Ooooooo ohhh ooooooo
BradFiAusNzCoCaWhat was it? I keep missing these posts!
eheathYou get excited by homophobia?
BradFiAusNzCoCaNo. I didn’t even know it was homophobia. I never see them before it’s gone. That’s why I commented
eheathWe don't delete things that you want to read, lets just put it that way.
BradFiAusNzCoCaFair enough
HypeBeastWhy I deleted Facebook and don't use Instagram often. The fakeness of society is cringe these days.
As someone who must drive a minimum of 5 hours to ski anywhere decent, I would love to live somewhere closer to mountains. My schedule would allow me to ski sooo much if I lived closer rather than having to consistently plan trip after trip after trip. I struggle with this dilemma every day. I hate everything about where I live except my job. Kinda at a breaking point.
Dustin.I would seek something within 45 minutes of the 1 or 2 things you love more than anything else. I wanted to mountain bike in the summer from my house and be able to ski within 30 minutes. It's worth every ounce of effort moving into that situation. I'm not in the car all the time, I'm able to workout more, and I don't stress about missing a whole weekend when the traffic backs up.
Dustin.I would seek something within 45 minutes of the 1 or 2 things you love more than anything else. I wanted to mountain bike in the summer from my house and be able to ski within 30 minutes. It's worth every ounce of effort moving into that situation. I'm not in the car all the time, I'm able to workout more, and I don't stress about missing a whole weekend when the traffic backs up.
betzCalifornians who move to Colorado for skiing are greedy dumbasses.
Both are expensive to live, California more expensive but the pay is also higher.
Both have copious amounts of traffic
Both have annoying af people but also cool people
Both have amazing mountains
California is a more beautiful state overall with much more than just mountains
California doesn't care if your native unless it's Tahoe (shit we got people moving from fucking China)
California weather is way better
BUT California snow is sometimes wet ohhh nooooooo
Like for me the thing that would really make skiing better is living closer to the mountains. Could accomplish that living in Tahoe obvs, Reno, SLC, Alaska lol. But not so much Colorado.
Californians are dumb dude they're all moving to Austin Texas? Bro, stay in fucking Austin Texas. If you think it's going to be better out there in any way, you don't deserve California.
DingoSeanI dont think anyone moves from NORTHERN California to Colorado specifically for the skiing... Southern California, might be a bit different, as a flight from SD to Tahoe might as well be to Denver or SLC, anyway. In my case it was for a job - and I was moving from Australia at the time, so it was a bit of an upgrade in terms of snow anyway haha.
Almost everyone else I know who moved there from California moved for like, university or work, or to buy a house, etc... it was never specifically for the skiing on it's own.
Maybe they moved for a specific ski town, such as those who move specifically for Aspen or Breck or whatever, but that's a little different. That said, if anything, Colorado has a lot more consistent snow than California... not snowpack.. but like, snow years...
You're guaranteed that it will be cold, you're guaranteed that it will snow at least 300 or so inches, and your season is going to probably go the same amount of length... at least November through April or May... Ive seen some horrific years in california like in 2015 where the mountains closed in late March with about the same amount of snow Colorado has in july on any given year.
That said, a big year in California trounces almost anyone... Having had a epic years in both Niseko (2021) and Tahoe (2019), I can wholly say that a big year in California keeps up with anyone... Colorado doesnt always seem to have specifically crazy ass seasons like that... for better or for worse.
betzThat's why I was saying I would move closer to the mountains if anything. Southern California is a tough place to be as a die hard skiier, I agree. They usually just fly somewhere else or take a 5 hr trip to mammoth. The local mountains suck pretty hard and are incredibly inconsistent. Shit, I'm originally from Southern California. My first time on the snow was at Big Bear age 10, got dropped off with a snowboard instructor who told me to fall on my butt to stop. By the end of the day I had a frozen atomic wedgie from the way-too-big long johns my dad had me wear under my 100% rental clothing. Did not enjoy that and I think that's why I tried skiing instead in College lol.
But, as usual it's always the normal ass people in great numbers making only mildly informed decisions that's the problem. I'm sure the Californians move to Colorado and are like.. wow think of how nice our holidays will be there! They can make a snowman in our front yard! Or.. wow think of how amazing it will be having our kids see the majestic rocky mountains in our backyard!
My point is I think so many Californians take California for granted. This state has so many different sides to it, it's incredible. The northern coast of California rivals any coastal landscape I've seen in Hawaii. Coastal redwood forests, vast deserts, high elevation frozen lakes, dormant volcanoes, sand dunes and vast beaches, Mt Shasta, Yosemite, Big Sur, Pinnacles. So many haven't even seen a fraction of what the state has to offer. And then they move. I say good riddance. Move to Austin because it's an up and coming tech hub. Move to Colorado because it's hip and outdoorsy and progressive. Haha who am I kidding, they'll move back cus they aren't used to temperatures below 50F or having clouds in the sky.
betzCalifornians are dumb dude they're all moving to Austin Texas? Bro, stay in fucking Austin Texas. If you think it's going to be better out there in any way, you don't deserve California.
FunnelSo much this. The amount you have to sacrifice moving from CA to TX isn’t worth being able to buy a home. Granted, I’m single and gainfully employed, so maybe I don’t have the same perspective as a lot of the families moving out there. Leaving CA for TX would mean completely foregoing almost everything I enjoy in life.
On another note, I’m sympathetic to everyone experiencing a population influx. It’s what’s been happening here in CA since the ‘50s. All of us out west have some big problems to tackle, beginning with housing supply and water.
betzI went to high school in Stockton. There are more redeeming qualities to living in Stockton than Austin Texas in my mind. The price is nearly the same. Disclaimer, I fucking hate Stockton. But the appeal is the same. Trade weather and things to do in town for a big house. At least there's still lots of things to do within a 2 hr drive though, unlike Austin Texas.
If you can't afford the Bay area, well you could be like me and realize you can actually afford the East Bay. But if not, move to Sacramento. If you can't afford Sacramento move to Stockton or Reno. The only reason to move to Austin Texas is because your unofficial leader Elon Musk told you it was hip and everyone's doing it.
But yeah California is jaded to people moving here. It's just a fact of life. Traffic is fucked and gets worse every year. You get outbid on a house by 10 different investors $100k over asking. The line for Heavenly on opening day is 2 hrs long. You can't find parking at a local hiking spot.
A rather small percentage of our population move away and each of those communities feel the impact. It sucks. It's not like it's any better here and gets far worse there. But that's the reality of having way more people want to live somewhere than a city can sustain. Too bad our lawmakers don't have foresight and/or don't care about the struggles of the average person.
betzI went to high school in Stockton. There are more redeeming qualities to living in Stockton than Austin Texas in my mind. The price is nearly the same. Disclaimer, I fucking hate Stockton. But the appeal is the same. Trade weather and things to do in town for a big house. At least there's still lots of things to do within a 2 hr drive though, unlike Austin Texas.
If you can't afford the Bay area, well you could be like me and realize you can actually afford the East Bay. But if not, move to Sacramento. If you can't afford Sacramento move to Stockton or Reno. The only reason to move to Austin Texas is because your unofficial leader Elon Musk told you it was hip and everyone's doing it.
But yeah California is jaded to people moving here. It's just a fact of life. Traffic is fucked and gets worse every year. You get outbid on a house by 10 different investors $100k over asking. The line for Heavenly on opening day is 2 hrs long. You can't find parking at a local hiking spot.
A rather small percentage of our population move away and each of those communities feel the impact. It sucks. It's not like it's any better here and gets far worse there. But that's the reality of having way more people want to live somewhere than a city can sustain. Too bad our lawmakers don't have foresight and/or don't care about the struggles of the average person.
DingoSeanHonestly I can't stand a lot of Californians because they never leave their fucking neighbourhood. Say what you will about the townies elsewhere in the country, but there are people in the Bay Area who barely ever leave it or do anything interesting - and if they do, they often leave California entirely which is sad. And then they just complain about how expensive it is or the homeless who they refuse to actually help because theyre all a bunch of boomer NIMBYs... They should just move to Texas already and get over it...
Anyone living in any Western State has it fucking GOOD as far as what fun you can get into within an hour or two drive... People in the East often have to drive 5 hours just to get into Vermont or New Hampshire or the Catskills - even longer if theyre in Philly or DC or god forbid anywhere south of the Mason-Dixon.
Colorado is awesome. California is awesome. The west is awesome. That's why despite all this circle jerking over how cheap it is to live in shithole-ass-Texas, it will never even remotely compare to how awesome things become once you get into the mountains and out into the real west.
To all the people moving away to Texas, Fine. Do it. NOW. Enjoy your low taxes and cheap real estate... just know you get what you(dont) pay for. Have fun with the broken electric grid, unforgivably humid death-heat, tornadoes, tstorms, and tropical cyclones... Hope you don't mind random drunk ammosexual-dorks shooting up the local applebees when the staff cuts them off of their dollaritas or all of the rest of the bullshit that's due... I'll stay far far away and enjoy living someplace worth the extra living cost...
DesertStixLmao have you ever lived in Texas? The Austin area that all these Californians are flocking to is the opposite of your description. It’s the most liberal city in the whole state and happens to be arguably the most aesthetically pleasing.
DingoSeanHighway 4 representtttt I'm from just down the street from you in Antioch, and I would rather live in god forsaken Antioch any fucking day than any corner of Texas.
On that note, I would also live just about anywhere in Colorado (or America) west of whatever latitude line runs through DIA over anywhere in Texas...
the trick in California is just to Avoid the expensive places entirely. Everyone bitches, but that's because theyre trying to live in the same few areas like SF, SJ, SD, and LA. Many people don't even consider Sacramento or the Valley - where youre far closer to the Mountains.
You could buy a house in the central part of Fresno for 200k-300k (my friend just finished escrow on a nice little craftsman last week for 205k) That's cheaper than most places in Austin - especially in the central area where you'd actually want to live.
Yeah, I know... It's Fresno, but get this - you could go backcountry skiing in Yosemite or Sequoia or Kings Canyon and ride lifts at China Peak. Both within 2 hour drive Yeah, your summers will be hot as balls, but who else would take hot as balls but dry heat Fresno over hot as balls but humid as fuck Texas? You can always drive to the ocean in 2.5 hours and cool off significantly - you try do that same thing in Texas and it just gets more humid.
Even Fresno is better than Texas, even if your taxes are still high.
DingoSeanabsolutely never have nor ever will - but I have visited both Austin and Dallas and its still not great.
Yeah, culturally the big cities have something to offer if you don't care about a certain thing that this website was created for... Theyre still in Texas and beholden to all that it lacks. Comfortable weather being one of them...
DesertStixI’m just saying it’s hard to blame them when you see how far a dollar goes in Texas compared to California.
DingoSeanI dont think anyone moves from NORTHERN California to Colorado specifically for the skiing... Southern California, might be a bit different, as a flight from SD to Tahoe might as well be to Denver or SLC, anyway. In my case it was for a job - and I was moving from Australia at the time, so it was a bit of an upgrade in terms of snow anyway haha.
Almost everyone else I know who moved there from California moved for like, university or work, or to buy a house, etc... it was never specifically for the skiing on it's own.
Maybe they moved for a specific ski town, such as those who move specifically for Aspen or Breck or whatever, but that's a little different. That said, if anything, Colorado has a lot more consistent snow than California... not snowpack.. but like, snow years...
You're guaranteed that it will be cold, you're guaranteed that it will snow at least 300 or so inches, and your season is going to probably go the same amount of length... at least November through April or May... Ive seen some horrific years in california like in 2015 where the mountains closed in late March with about the same amount of snow Colorado has in july on any given year.
That said, a big year in California trounces almost anyone... Having had a epic years in both Niseko (2021) and Tahoe (2019), I can wholly say that a big year in California keeps up with anyone... Colorado doesnt always seem to have specifically crazy ass seasons like that... for better or for worse.
DingoSeanI mean, I guess it depends on what you value, right? If all you value is the big house and the big television and white picket fence and all the 1950s nuclear family nonsense, then sure... move to Texas. I find it a bit of a soulless life, and quite mouthbreathy, but I suppose there are those types of people in the world...
If it frees up housing in California for people who have a higher standard for where they live, all the better.
DingoSeanI mean, I guess it depends on what you value, right? If all you value is the big house and the big television and white picket fence and all the 1950s nuclear family nonsense, then sure... move to Texas. I find it a bit of a soulless life, and quite mouthbreathy, but I suppose there are those types of people in the world...
If it frees up housing in California for people who have a higher standard for where they live, all the better.
eheathIt certainly did, CO was one of the first states to legalize did you forget this?
ColoradoSkiWhy ain’t we ripppin on all the Cali joys out here bud, they all ruining every state they go to and their vibe is dumb. Colorados great for those who actually live here y’all just sad you can’t
betzCalifornians are just people dude. This place is a true melting pot. We've got your Colorado grade rasta stoners, your texas grade country music listening small pepe big truck having white boys, your generic picket fence having good school attending vanilla grade families, your danville/ OC karens, your surfer brahs, your whiteclaw chugging frat boys, your basement dwellers, hip hop heads, bikers, meth heads, coked out businessmen, san francisco activists, skate bums, ski bums, wannabe entrepreneurs, pretentious artists, techy people, god dammit we have everyone. There is no California vibe. It only exists to people who call California "Cali"
Sad we can't? C L E A R L Y we can, we have, and we will. Not exactly difficult to move to an area with a lower cost of living.
DesertStixYou and the “California vibe” hijacked this thread about a whole different state lmao
JLejEveryone drives so fucking fast in colorado on mountain roads. Fuck off im already going 5 over. Stop fucking tailgating me around hairpin turns. i get it, you can drive on mountain roads and know how to use your steering wheel very cool dude. put rally driver on your tinder profile or some shit and leave me alone
JLejEveryone drives so fucking fast in colorado on mountain roads. Fuck off im already going 5 over. Stop fucking tailgating me around hairpin turns. i get it, you can drive on mountain roads and know how to use your steering wheel very cool dude. put rally driver on your tinder profile or some shit and leave me alone
