Dalbello Lupo AX 90??

I would step in both boots and compare compare flex. Not the foot feel but put forward pressure in each. If the new feels way to soft compared to the old one call up the shop and see what they csn do for you

I have the Lupo AX 120 and the Il Moro which is also 120 and can tell you that the Lupo is way softer even though they claim the same flex number. I broke a few walk switches but honestly I'd still get the Lupo and you can upgrade the cuff to a krypton cuff for non touring days if it becomes a problem.

Yes you will probably break the walk mode, The walk mode on my lupo 130C got loose after a couple days and broke after about 30. What kind of shop puts someone in a touring boot that doesn't ski the backcountry? Not saying you made a mistake tho, some people don't mind touring boots in the resort

mrk127Yes you will probably break the walk mode, The walk mode on my lupo 130C got loose after a couple days and broke after about 30. What kind of shop puts someone in a touring boot that doesn't ski the backcountry? Not saying you made a mistake tho, some people don't mind touring boots in the resort

Haha next time I should probably do my research before buying a boot and not after

Obviously flex is dependent on size, ability, and riding style. There are definitely people out there that are perfectly happy riding everything in a 90-flex boot, but I'd say more often than not a 90-flex (especially Dalbello's version of 90 which tends to be a little softer than most overlap boots) is pretty soft for someone looking to improve their ability and ride more difficult terrain.

Dalbello also definitely puts softer than advertised tongues in some of their Lupos, at least as numbers go, when compared with the Kryptons. I have the Lupo 130Cs, and they sell Kryptons rated at the same 130-flex with a stiffer tongue. On the inside surface of the tongue there will be a little stamped/moulded arrow pointing to a letter. That letter tells you the tongue's actual flex, at least as it relates to Dalbello's other tongues. I don't remember which letter means which flex, but scouring here or the TGR forums will get you that info. If you like the fit of the boots but want to stiffen them up, just ask your local shop to order you some stiffer tongues. I went through that process with my Full Tilts, swapping for stiffer tongues a couple of times as I became a stronger rider.

One good thing fro you, I'm pretty sure the 90s have a PU clog instead of the Grilamid one in some of the higher end Lupos. PU is the standard for in-bounds boots because it dampens a little better and is considerably more durable than Grilamid, which is lighter but generally doesn't perform as well.

**This post was edited on Oct 25th 2021 at 4:24:27pm

BurritoObviously flex is dependent on size, ability, and riding style. There are definitely people out there that are perfectly happy riding everything in a 90-flex boot, but I'd say more often than not a 90-flex (especially Dalbello's version of 90 which tends to be a little softer than most overlap boots) is pretty soft for someone looking to improve their ability and ride more difficult terrain.

Dalbello also definitely puts softer than advertised tongues in some of their Lupos, at least as numbers go, when compared with the Kryptons. I have the Lupo 130Cs, and they sell Kryptons rated at the same 130-flex with a stiffer tongue. On the inside surface of the tongue there will be a little stamped/moulded arrow pointing to a letter. That letter tells you the tongue's actual flex, at least as it relates to Dalbello's other tongues. I don't remember which letter means which flex, but scouring here or the TGR forums will get you that info. If you like the fit of the boots but want to stiffen them up, just ask your local shop to order you some stiffer tongues. I went through that process with my Full Tilts, swapping for stiffer tongues a couple of times as I became a stronger rider.

One good thing fro you, I'm pretty sure the 90s have a PU clog instead of the Grilamid one in some of the higher end Lupos. PU is the standard for in-bounds boots because it dampens a little better and is considerably more durable than Grilamid, which is lighter but generally doesn't perform as well.

**This post was edited on Oct 25th 2021 at 4:24:27pm

Wait the lupo 130C and the krypton 130 don’t have the same tongue?

mrk127Wait the lupo 130C and the krypton 130 don’t have the same tongue?

Nope. If I remember correctly the Krypton 130 has the "C" tongue - their stiffest - and the Lupo 130 C has the "B" tongue - the next stiffness down. I definitely remember being surprised when I discover that in my Lupos.

BurritoNope. If I remember correctly the Krypton 130 has the "C" tongue - their stiffest - and the Lupo 130 C has the "B" tongue - the next stiffness down. I definitely remember being surprised when I discover that in my Lupos.

Oh shit. I have both of those boots but don’t use the kryptons much since I got a pair of plug boots. Might have to put the krypton tongue on my lupos

mrk127Oh shit. I have both of those boots but don’t use the kryptons much since I got a pair of plug boots. Might have to put the krypton tongue on my lupos

Might take a little rigging to get the connection point attached since the Lupos have the little quick-disconnect thing for touring, but it should work. They do make Kryptons with flexes down in the 90s, too, but just check the letter code on the tongue and you're good to go.

Wouldn't be surprised if you can find Krypton or Lupo tongues floating around eBay, too.

Did some digging. Here's what I know about DB's tongue designations:

A - ?
D - ?
M - Medium flex - Softer and lower rebound than C
C - Medium flex - Stated flex 120 - approx real-world flex 100-110 - Standard on Lupo AX HD and Lupo AX 120 models
P - Medium/Stiff flex - Stated flex 130 - approx real-world flex 120 - Standard on Lupo 130C
B - Stiffest flex - Stated flex 130 - approx real-world flex 130 - Standard on Lupo Pro HD

**This post was edited on Nov 1st 2021 at 5:55:52pm

I returned the boots and they let me try on 5 different other pairs, and I went with tecnica's mach1 mv 120. They definitely feel wayyy stiffer then the Dalbellos and my old pair of Langes. I'll see how they turn out this season so far I like them