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What is the ultimate PNW 105-110mm do-it-all ski?

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Eightsails
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Park/Pow/Cliffs/Rails steep lines and swervy times, what do you think is the top of the line do everything better ski?

Inb4 Jeffrey 108.
Sep 20 2021 4:25PM
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combatgoon17
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**This post was edited on Sep 20th 2021 at 4:37:05pm
Sep 20 2021 4:35PM
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Non_State_Actor
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Is this really even a question in the year of our Lord 2021?
Sep 20 2021 4:43PM
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Session
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You literally answered your own question. Though 108 is out an 110 is in this year.
Sep 20 2021 4:49PM
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whitenab
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Obviously skiing preference is king here and should inform that decision. There are a million ways to ski park/pow/cliffs/rails/steeps/swerve. Also, I think basically everyone's 105-110mm ski is good right now so buy something that fits your ski style and budget.


For me it's probably Jeffrey or the Bacon depending on your preference of stiffness/stability/turn style. I've been on both but am currently on Bacons. I could ski them everyday no matter the condition and still be happy. I definitely think they are better at crud skiing than people give them credit for but they are definitely not blackops style chargers and the jeffrey has the edge in straightline skiing. Plus, everyone spends most of their time between features so you might as well feel good making turns on your way to whatever you're trying to hit.
Sep 20 2021 4:59PM
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Eightsails
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whitenabObviously skiing preference is king here and should inform that decision. There are a million ways to ski park/pow/cliffs/rails/steeps/swerve. Also, I think basically everyone's 105-110mm ski is good right now so buy something that fits your ski style and budget.


For me it's probably Jeffrey or the Bacon depending on your preference of stiffness/stability/turn style. I've been on both but am currently on Bacons. I could ski them everyday no matter the condition and still be happy. I definitely think they are better at crud skiing than people give them credit for but they are definitely not blackops style chargers and the jeffrey has the edge in straightline skiing. Plus, everyone spends most of their time between features so you might as well feel good making turns on your way to whatever you're trying to hit.


Yeah, I'm personally a 2019/20 ARV 106 fan myself. Curious what other people feel are their favorites for their own style!
Sep 20 2021 5:03PM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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@Greg_K and @anders_a swear by the CT series being damp and chargey this previous season.

As for me, my go to west coast snowpack ski is a ski called the diplomat by Slant Skis out of Tahoe. 107 underfoot, pure bamboo core with carbon fiber. It’s heavy though. Def feel a difference throwing that ski around vs some others but it’s so stable
Sep 20 2021 8:54PM
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AlaskaDogfart
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Really like the Moment Meridians for this kind of things but they stopped making them
Sep 21 2021 1:04AM
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ReturnToMonkey
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Jeffrey 108
Sep 21 2021 1:50AM
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anders_a
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love the CT 3.0 2021, but its not really swervy, 2022 might suit you, or a 2019 for sure.

the impact the year makes on the 3.0 is kinda stupid. but funs kis.
Sep 21 2021 1:51AM
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lil.Boye
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just to be original lib tech ufo 105? have the old ufo 100 and they float like a boat
Sep 21 2021 4:14AM
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Greg_K
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Agree the 2021 CT 3.0 may not be as playful but the 2021 Prodigy 3.0 would definitely be an option.
More tapered than the CT line and softer tips/tails. Decent weight and longer turning radius so it would still be stable at speed and good in variable snow. Hasn’t changed for 2022 like the CT did but I bet the 2021 Fisher plant builds would still be better built and now available at deals. Ordered a pair of 2021 190cm Prodigy 3.0 that I got for $499 CAN/$400 US which is a great deal!

Depending on your size, the 182cm MFree 108 is a super fun ski too and unchanged for 2022. 192cm version becomes more serious and more of a playful charger.
Sep 21 2021 8:06AM
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doubleblackjack
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Head kore
Sep 21 2021 11:13AM
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beans*
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UFO 105 fo sho
Sep 21 2021 11:45AM
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yungcurv
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Vishnu Wide for that range if you lean more rail/park heavy
Sep 21 2021 11:47AM
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stinky_cheese
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Should check out the 4frnt devastador. I’ve been ripping it around the pnw for the past few seasons and it rips it all.
Sep 21 2021 3:50PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Probably the Jeffrey 108

It depends, honestly, could be the Vishnu wides with a little extra stiffness on them, I've heard they do great in pow, you can definitely still take them through the park. Another option might be wider than a 110, but the Reckoner 112 I have heard great things about and plenty of people take them through the park.
Sep 21 2021 4:25PM
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olddirty
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Icelantic Nomad 105
Sep 21 2021 6:28PM
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Oldmanripper
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I just bought ufo 105’s. Can’t wait to use them.
elibrimsUFO 105 fo sho
Sep 21 2021 6:35PM
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Dongwater
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k2 reckoner 112, volkl revolt 104 - both could be considered!
Sep 21 2021 8:51PM
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Alextheskibum
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108 jeffreys would slay
Sep 21 2021 11:02PM
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Jems
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pretty much the Jeffrey 108/110

I ski a foot of pow one week then hit a few rails then send 540s to flat the next
Sep 22 2021 10:19AM
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whitenab
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This isn't really an answer to the original question but because of it I ended up doing some research on the midfat ski category. Looked at all the companies I could think of and their ~105-110 twin tip, all mountain, freestyle skis. I was pretty lazy and didn't really collect enough info for any analysis so this is mostly just info.

If a company didn't have a 105-110 I grabbed their surrounding skis which was in both cases a 102 and 112. Also I don't actually know how much Vishnu Wides cost.



- 106 is really popular right now. I think the upper tier width used to be 120 but is coming down right now so 106 works well with a ~116 to give a nice 96,106,116 spread.



- Lengths are wack because who knows how each companies determines them but I like when a company offers a wide range of lengths. It'd be interesting to see if the companies with lots of lengths usually have a separate women's line.

-MSRP had a fair amount of variance. Coming in I figured it was on industry average of ~700, excluding outliers. I was surprised to see Faction have an 800$ 112mm underfoot ski.


- Also, I realized MSRP is tough because it's not hard to wait for sales and then the prices can really fluctuate and certain brands consistently have good sale prices and some never go on sale. Did not gather that info.

Conclusion:

You have ~30 options if you ski about 180cm with a 106 waist lol.
Sep 22 2021 8:20PM
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