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Thoughts On Texas Abortion Situation?

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theabortionator
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Also the governor saying that he was going to eliminate all future rapes in response to not having a provision for rapes in the new bill.

I don't live in Texas or know that much about him but that seems pretty cooked to even say that.
Sep 13 2021 7:04PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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@keagan.karstens is literally 8'2"
Sep 13 2021 7:19PM
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r00kie
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Disclaimer: I am very much in the pro-life camp.

The pro-life movement claims to have good motives which I largely agree with, but their priorities to achieve them are pretty bad. Abortion is unfortunately not something that can be legislated away. Juat like guns and drugs, no matter what laws there are, people will still do it. So when people cheer on the passing of this law, I wonder what they are doing to help provide more positive solutions for the people facing the abortion decision. Are they fostering? Adopting? Providing meals, diapers, and babysitting for a single mom? Volunteering at a pregnancy center? Likely none of the above. The pro-life movement needs to be more focused on solutions like above and not electing people. Maybe one day there will be enough resources available where no one will feel they have to abort, which would be great, but until then there is a lot of work to be done.
Sep 13 2021 7:41PM
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mattytru
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before this turns to shit: the entire situation is absolutely cooked, dont live near there but feel bad for the residents and especially the women
Sep 13 2021 7:41PM
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keagan.karstens
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TRVP_ANGEL@keagan.karstens is literally 8'2"


This is me next to my 5’9 friend nick. Therefore he’s 7’7



**This post was edited on Sep 13th 2021 at 7:50:37pm
Sep 13 2021 7:46PM
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theabortionator
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r00kieDisclaimer: I am very much in the pro-life camp.

The pro-life movement claims to have good motives which I largely agree with, but their priorities to achieve them are pretty bad. Abortion is unfortunately not something that can be legislated away. Juat like guns and drugs, no matter what laws there are, people will still do it. So when people cheer on the passing of this law, I wonder what they are doing to help provide more positive solutions for the people facing the abortion decision. Are they fostering? Adopting? Providing meals, diapers, and babysitting for a single mom? Volunteering at a pregnancy center? Likely none of the above. The pro-life movement needs to be more focused on solutions like above and not electing people. Maybe one day there will be enough resources available where no one will feel they have to abort, which would be great, but until then there is a lot of work to be done.


Yeah, the worst part about it is that people care so much about life until the baby is born and then the baby, and the mom are on their own in there eyes after that. At least for a lot of people including my parents and a lot of the churches I grew up in.

I personally don't have a problem with abortions but I def agree at the very least their needs to be more resources.

Also in a lot of places planned parenthood is the only option for a lot of womens health. They closed the one down where my friend lives in Indiana after so much protesting and the place literally didn't even offer abortions. Also a lot of pro life people are on the side that thinks having health insurance is bad for people.

Idk. I get it but I don't see the love sometimes. My dad is one of those christians that thinks people who bomb abortion clinics are awesome people.
Sep 13 2021 7:48PM
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theabortionator
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mattytrubefore this turns to shit: the entire situation is absolutely cooked, dont live near there but feel bad for the residents and especially the women


Are you suggesting a fairly political thread in NSG might not end well? I feel politics in nsg always end with well thought out discussions and nobody ever gets angry and yells.
Sep 13 2021 7:50PM
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keagan.karstens
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mattytrubefore this turns to shit: the entire situation is absolutely cooked, dont live near there but feel bad for the residents and especially the women


NS is too chill I feel like. Just don’t post a entire thread shitting on someone…
Sep 13 2021 7:53PM
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r00kie
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theabortionatorYeah, the worst part about it is that people care so much about life until the baby is born and then the baby, and the mom are on their own in there eyes after that. At least for a lot of people including my parents and a lot of the churches I grew up in.

I personally don't have a problem with abortions but I def agree at the very least their needs to be more resources.

Also in a lot of places planned parenthood is the only option for a lot of womens health. They closed the one down where my friend lives in Indiana after so much protesting and the place literally didn't even offer abortions. Also a lot of pro life people are on the side that thinks having health insurance is bad for people.

Idk. I get it but I don't see the love sometimes. My dad is one of those christians that thinks people who bomb abortion clinics are awesome people.


Yeah, I am unfortunately in the minority of christians who doesn't view politics as a solution to abortion. But puting the issue on legality is a lot easier than personally being part of the solution so a lot of people go that route. The american church is not ready for the results of ending legal abortion and thats a reality that I hope to someday see change but its a loooong ways out.
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GayWolf420
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Sounds bad. Feel bad for women in TX as well as women in my family, though they have no business in the state of texas.

I dont expect much from a state that went into a full-blown apocalypse due to 6" of snow on the ground though. Everythings big in texas, even the retardation.
Sep 13 2021 8:00PM
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MiIfHunter
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r00kieDisclaimer: I am very much in the pro-life camp.

The pro-life movement claims to have good motives which I largely agree with, but their priorities to achieve them are pretty bad. Abortion is unfortunately not something that can be legislated away. Juat like guns and drugs, no matter what laws there are, people will still do it. So when people cheer on the passing of this law, I wonder what they are doing to help provide more positive solutions for the people facing the abortion decision. Are they fostering? Adopting? Providing meals, diapers, and babysitting for a single mom? Volunteering at a pregnancy center? Likely none of the above. The pro-life movement needs to be more focused on solutions like above and not electing people. Maybe one day there will be enough resources available where no one will feel they have to abort, which would be great, but until then there is a lot of work to be done.


Wtf r u talking about

how can a guy be prolife? It’s not ur fucking body and ur not the one looking after the kid
Sep 13 2021 8:24PM
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skierman
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Republicans ignoring science and common sense by creating horrendous and dangerous legal precedent in order to enforce their religious beliefs onto other people?


I'm shocked because Republicans masturbate to the Constitution. Its not like they openly attack the justice system, democracy, separation of church and state, the 1st Amendment, etc. when it doesn't go their way. This is so unlike them!
Sep 13 2021 8:43PM
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MiIfHunter
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skiermanRepublicans ignoring science and common sense by creating horrendous and dangerous legal precedent in order to enforce their religious beliefs onto other people?


I'm shocked because Republicans masturbate to the Constitution. Its not like they openly attack the justice system, democracy, separation of church and state, the 1st Amendment, etc. when it doesn't go their way. This is so unlike them!

Fuck u and fuck the constitution go shove that up ur ass

who wrote that bullshit? A bunch of slave owners
Sep 13 2021 9:09PM
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Gmeister25
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Honestly I believe that in the US you should be able to do whatever you want and certain religious beliefs shouldn't be able to dictate the lives of others. There are also certain situations where it shouldn't illegal, and those where after a certain amount of time it should become illegal.
Sep 13 2021 9:55PM
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MiIfHunter
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r00kieDisclaimer: I am very much in the pro-life camp.

The pro-life movement claims to have good motives which I largely agree with, but their priorities to achieve them are pretty bad. Abortion is unfortunately not something that can be legislated away. Juat like guns and drugs, no matter what laws there are, people will still do it. So when people cheer on the passing of this law, I wonder what they are doing to help provide more positive solutions for the people facing the abortion decision. Are they fostering? Adopting? Providing meals, diapers, and babysitting for a single mom? Volunteering at a pregnancy center? Likely none of the above. The pro-life movement needs to be more focused on solutions like above and not electing people. Maybe one day there will be enough resources available where no one will feel they have to abort, which would be great, but until then there is a lot of work to be done.


What a complete horses ass this guy is. Fucking idiot think he can decide what’s good for a woman
Sep 13 2021 9:58PM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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I just want to say thank you for being honest. I’ve got a lot more respect for people like you who bare it all. While I may not agree with your beliefs, I do agree with the point you made about how they’re not doing anything to back up the pro-life policy as far as resources go
r00kieDisclaimer: I am very much in the pro-life camp.

The pro-life movement claims to have good motives which I largely agree with, but their priorities to achieve them are pretty bad. Abortion is unfortunately not something that can be legislated away. Juat like guns and drugs, no matter what laws there are, people will still do it. So when people cheer on the passing of this law, I wonder what they are doing to help provide more positive solutions for the people facing the abortion decision. Are they fostering? Adopting? Providing meals, diapers, and babysitting for a single mom? Volunteering at a pregnancy center? Likely none of the above. The pro-life movement needs to be more focused on solutions like above and not electing people. Maybe one day there will be enough resources available where no one will feel they have to abort, which would be great, but until then there is a lot of work to be done.
Sep 13 2021 11:34PM
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r00kie
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BradFiAusNzCoCaI just want to say thank you for being honest. I’ve got a lot more respect for people like you who bare it all. While I may not agree with your beliefs, I do agree with the point you made about how they’re not doing anything to back up the pro-life policy as far as resources go

Appreciate the response dude. Glad to see there are some adults in the room.
Sep 13 2021 11:38PM
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MiIfHunter
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r00kieAppreciate the response dude. Glad to see there are some adults in the room.


Adults are not men that hide behind a bible and try to make decisions on behalf of women’s bodies. Men have no fucking right to comment on abortion issues. Plain and simple
Sep 13 2021 11:42PM
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Chunderface
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Plot twist: you start leaving your phone in the car when you ski.
Sep 14 2021 12:36AM
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Young_patty
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It’s ok bro, Abbot said he was gonna eliminate rape bro.
Sep 14 2021 1:40AM
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BrandoComando
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I think it's a political statement more than anything. Abbot is trying to win support from right-wing voters and draw attention away from his flubs during the Winter Storm catastrophe and higher-than-national-average rate of Covid deaths. Elections are coming next year and he needs some positives to put next to his name. Give the red voters what they want.

It's sad because the law fails to address the needs of women who seek abortion in the first place. It strips women of a constitutional right (not my words - it's per the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade) and it doesn't offer any solutions or alternatives. Statistically speaking, women seeking an abortion will find another method to get what they are looking for. Unfortunately, those methods can be extremely dangerous. Regardless of political or religious affiliation, both sides can agree that basic constitutional rights are undeniable. Abortion is just as much a right as the Right to Bear Arms or Right to Free Speech (again - not my words, it's legal precedent under the 14th Amendment).

The law was deliberately written so that courts cannot challenge its legality. The NYT did a great piece on how it snuck past the Supreme Court. The SC voted to dismiss the case simply because there was no legal standing to vote on it. It's a slippery slope. Other conservative states are passing similar laws. Same-sex marriage could also be outlawed through this legal loophole. Additionally, a blue state like Massachusetts or California could use the same loophole and ban firearms just as easily as Texas effectively banned abortions.

I firmly believe that states shouldn't be able to deny human rights. This belief exists beyond my political leanings. I predict that one of the many lawsuits against this Texas law will be picked up by the Supreme Court and the Justices can give this issue proper attention.
Sep 14 2021 2:31AM
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skierman
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BrandoComandoI firmly believe that states shouldn't be able to deny human rights. This belief exists beyond my political leanings. I predict that one of the many lawsuits against this Texas law will be picked up by the Supreme Court and the Justices can give this issue proper attention.



LOL, wait you mean the thing that happens to every other illegal, overreach of the legislature is going to happen here as well1?!?!?



OMG CRAZY INSIGHT, FRESHMAN!
Sep 14 2021 6:11AM
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maaattt
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Mf's talking about how shitty the Taliban are and then same mf's sign bills authorizing turning people in who are speaking reproductive care for cash.

Don't need to be afraid of Sharia law invading the US because these dipnobs will just do it themselves under the name of family morals
Sep 14 2021 12:05PM
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snowfinder
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I was waiting for my plane at eagle vail airport when they announced loading for a flight to Texas. I looked over and saw full grown men playing dress up as cow boys and women wearing full length fur coats. Wasn't one or two of them there were multiple people dressed like this and none of them knew each other. They lined up in pride that they were going back to Texas, while everyone else was looking at them asking are these people for real?
Sep 14 2021 12:30PM
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.frenchy
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they shoulda made an exception for rape/incest abortions
Sep 14 2021 1:39PM
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XtRemE11
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MiIfHunterAdults are not men that hide behind a bible and try to make decisions on behalf of women’s bodies. Men have no fucking right to comment on abortion issues. Plain and simple


Nah actually anyone can comment on abortion issues.
Sep 14 2021 2:11PM
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skierman
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.frenchythey shoulda made an exception for rape/incest abortions


Nice, party brah. No exceptions for rape or incest and it turns citizens against each other for financial gain.

This is yet another example of how the GOP is filled with psychos who are willing to destroy America for their personal gain.
Sep 14 2021 2:21PM
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eheath
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Just another case of religion interfering in government policy, pretty typical unfortunately.
Sep 14 2021 2:41PM
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.frenchy
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skiermanNice, party brah. No exceptions for rape or incest and it turns citizens against each other for financial gain.

This is yet another example of how the GOP is filled with psychos who are willing to destroy America for their personal gain.


same can easily said about both parties sadly.

dont have unprotected sex if you cant handle having a child, its called being responsible!
Sep 14 2021 2:45PM
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WoFlowz
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Fuck Texas abortion ban all my homies fuckin hate Texas abortion ban
Sep 14 2021 2:56PM
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JAHBRADOR
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Texas need to get aborted real quick.
Sep 14 2021 3:00PM
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MiIfHunter
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.frenchysame can easily said about both parties sadly.

dont have unprotected sex if you cant handle having a child, its called being responsible!


Not everyone can afford a condom!
Sep 14 2021 3:01PM
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JAHBRADOR
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MiIfHunterNot everyone can afford a condom!


Aren’t them shits free at planned parenthood or whatever the fuck it’s called?
Sep 14 2021 3:09PM
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MiIfHunter
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JAHBRADORAren’t them shits free at planned parenthood or whatever the fuck it’s called?


Not everyone can get to a planned parenthood. It could be far away from where you live
Sep 14 2021 3:10PM
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JAHBRADOR
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MiIfHunterNot everyone can get to a planned parenthood. It could be far away from where you live


Tru
Sep 14 2021 3:43PM
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MiIfHunter
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JAHBRADORTru


Also sumtimes it’s not “sexy” to wear a condom
Sep 14 2021 3:49PM
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JAHBRADOR
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MiIfHunterAlso sumtimes it’s not “sexy” to wear a condom


Upvote for pro condom - downvote for anti condom.

im downvoting the shit out of this post.
Sep 14 2021 3:55PM
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theabortionator
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JAHBRADORAren’t them shits free at planned parenthood or whatever the fuck it’s called?


I gave a friend a bunch in Indiana a few years ago. Mentioned planned parenthood and hers had gotten shut down even though they didn't do abortions there.

But yeah the free condom thing is pretty sweet. Also weird that a lot of people against abortion also are against people having access to free condoms.

I get it, don't have sex till you're married or God will burn you in hell but still.
Sep 14 2021 4:01PM
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No.Quarter
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SEx is bAD! THEREfOPRe PEOPLe WHO HAVe SECKS SHoULd bE PUNISJHeD BY FORcE OF BABYMAKE BIRtH IS A NATURAL aND pAINFUL PUNISHMNt MAKES SENS TO ME aND MY RIFLEWIFE!

AND IN THE CASE OF RaPE OR INCEST 1) THE WOMN WaS PROBABLy DRESsD LIKE A HEaTHEN HORE AND THREFOR wAS ASkING FOR IT 2) INCEST OnLY HaPNNS ON GAMES OF THRONE 3) BAN ABORT wILL STOP RAPES BECAUsE RAPPERS wILL NOT DO IT ANYMORE SiNCE CANT ABOORT. ANDF WHAT WOULD LIFE BE IF MARY ABORT JESUS HUH?!
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skierman
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.frenchysame can easily said about both parties sadly.

dont have unprotected sex if you cant handle having a child, its called being responsible!


Maybe you should ask yourself why you're more concerned about what women do with their bodies than about the 400,000 children currently in the foster care system. Maybe you should ask yourself why you support republicans who want to force women to give birth even in the cases of rape and incest.

Let me know when the Dems start enacting policies that mirror the Taliban, when their supporters attack the Capitol, when their party actively supports destroying democracy and when they elect a reality TV star conman draft dodging child rapist who only eats fast food and insults the armed forces. Yeah bro, what a hero!

What's worse than an ignorant voter blindly supporting the GOP?

Someone who knows damn well they're doing it and supports their racist, war-mongering and hateful ideas.
Sep 14 2021 4:29PM
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JAHBRADOR
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theabortionatorI gave a friend a bunch in Indiana a few years ago. Mentioned planned parenthood and hers had gotten shut down even though they didn't do abortions there.

But yeah the free condom thing is pretty sweet. Also weird that a lot of people against abortion also are against people having access to free condoms.

I get it, don't have sex till you're married or God will burn you in hell but still.


I’m down for premarital sex cuz God do be sounding kinda kinky tho.
Sep 14 2021 4:30PM
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WoFlowz
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JAHBRADORI’m down for premarital sex cuz God do be sounding kinda kinky tho.


Fr why’s god watching kids have sex 😳
gods tryna catch a case or some shii
Sep 14 2021 4:34PM
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theabortionator
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JAHBRADORI’m down for premarital sex cuz God do be sounding kinda kinky tho.


White bible Jesus had long hair, wore birkenstocks, drank wine, hung out with thieves, prostitutes, and other outcasts, and threw killer dinner parties.
Sep 14 2021 4:36PM
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skierman
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Just to enlighten you fucktarded Republicans about what this law means.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnO7pL-QWyc

Sparknotes: If the Supreme Court which is a majority of hardline, religious assholes who hate abortion thanks to a Republican senate doing dirty shit and Trump, allow this ban to go into place, it gives legal precedent for any state to ignore any previous federal law. Those harmed by these laws cannot sue the state, governor or legislative body to stop it. That means no more federal oversight for any part of the Constitution on any U.S. state, even your 2A rights, it gives complete unchecked power to each state eliminating the U.S. altogether, you fucking idiots.

Remind me again what oath you assholes took while joining the armed services or public service? This is fucking madness.
Sep 14 2021 5:25PM
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r00kie
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skiermanJust to enlighten you fucktarded Republicans about what this law means.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnO7pL-QWyc

Sparknotes: If the Supreme Court which is a majority of hardline, religious assholes who hate abortion thanks to a Republican senate doing dirty shit and Trump, allow this ban to go into place, it gives legal precedent for any state to ignore any previous federal law. Those harmed by these laws cannot sue the state, governor or legislative body to stop it. That means no more federal oversight for any part of the Constitution on any U.S. state, even your 2A rights, it gives complete unchecked power to each state eliminating the U.S. altogether, you fucking idiots.

Remind me again what oath you assholes took while joining the armed services or public service? This is fucking madness.


Trust me guys, my YouTube lawyer said so. The Constitution no longer matters!
Sep 14 2021 5:31PM
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skierman
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r00kieTrust me guys, my YouTube lawyer said so. The Constitution no longer matters!


Have fun dealing with everyone around you being deputized officers by the state, pushed by cash incentive to "enforce" the laws and face no consequence if they lose suing you in court, which will cost you money no matter what. You kids have no fucking idea what this means.
Sep 14 2021 5:36PM
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theabortionator
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skiermanHave fun dealing with everyone around you being deputized officers by the state, pushed by cash incentive to "enforce" the laws and face no consequence if they lose suing you in court, which will cost you money no matter what. You kids have no fucking idea what this means.



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skierman
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theabortionator


Get to photoshopping.


Sep 14 2021 5:46PM
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dolanslebensraum
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I think in some cases abortion is necessary but you should try to avoid getting in a situation where you have to make the choice.

but my body my choice is some feminist bullshit.

the baby has just as many chromosomes from the father as it does from the mother, so the father should have just as much sway in the decision.

if you cant understand that then you have a slutty bonobo chimpanzees understanding of genetics.
Sep 14 2021 6:05PM
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skiindana
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Hot-take: This is entirely the fault of RBG.

She literally was an 80+ year old cancer patient. Obama asked her to retire. She refused. Her arrogance 100% screws up her legacy. Breyer is about to do exactly the same thing, which is incredible. Get ready for a 7-2 conservative court...

I totally support reasonable access to abortion, but expecting people against abortion to not restrict abortion is stupid as fuck. This shit will be like this for a while and it is the fault of people on OUR side, not republicans.
Sep 14 2021 6:49PM
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elcheapo
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What a twisted thing to do, as if the human race is going extinct or something.
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