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On3p jeffrey 102 butterability

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Everchanger
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So I'm looking into a new pair of twigs and I'm looking for a ski that has that perfect balance of park/butterability and speed on groomers light pow spring conditions ect I was looking into the mag102 but has since been discontinued and I know they will replace it with a new ski but it got me thinking about the Jeffrey's can anyone tell me about the ease of butters on these I'm 6ft 180-190lbs I'm really looking for something that butters easier then a arv 96 but not as buttery as like an edollo or line blend obviously can you compare their butterability to another ski? From what I can tell they seem comparable to what I have now I currently ski black crows captis at -2.5cm from true center and butters are somewhat difficult and iv heard they are ever so slightly stiffer flex to an arv 96 and similar to bent chetler 100s I ski prolly 65%park 35%everything else
Sep 8 2021 4:17AM
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Everchanger
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Also I'm aware that I can go custom and get the softer flex option anyone have this and compare the butterability to some other skis?
Sep 8 2021 4:24AM
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CatdickBojangles
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The Jeffrey is a stout ski but the large amount of rocker allows you to leverage it into butters. It takes some getting used to but when you get it down it is amazing. The crushing cans Meeks pro model is the magnus 102 by the way.
Sep 8 2021 7:10AM
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teabag
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Go on instagram and look up people who ski these skis and see if their skiing style matches what you wanna do. For example I saw dylan siggers skiing line sfbs and he was skiing exactly how I wanted to ski outside of park so I got the sfbs and they act exactly how it looked on the vids
Sep 8 2021 8:57AM
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Everchanger
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Yes I'm aware the crushing cans is still the mag102 but I also hate that topsheet lmao it just looks off to me the way the cans are almost but not the entire ski idk might be a silly reason but I'm gonna spend 700+ on a pair of sticks I wanna enjoy the graphic
CatdickBojanglesThe Jeffrey is a stout ski but the large amount of rocker allows you to leverage it into butters. It takes some getting used to but when you get it down it is amazing. The crushing cans Meeks pro model is the magnus 102 by the way.
Sep 8 2021 11:59AM
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iggyskier
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Jeffrey 102 mounted +2cm of recommended is a pretty popular spring Hood park/fuck around ski for factory employees. At your size you won't have any issues buttering it.
Sep 8 2021 12:16PM
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Everchanger
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Ya know for whatever reason I've had trouble finding videos of people riding these skis even on insta if you type in on3pjeffrey only 2 pictures come up and kartels I only found 1 video
teabagGo on instagram and look up people who ski these skis and see if their skiing style matches what you wanna do. For example I saw dylan siggers skiing line sfbs and he was skiing exactly how I wanted to ski outside of park so I got the sfbs and they act exactly how it looked on the vids
Sep 8 2021 12:29PM
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Everchanger
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Thanks for the imput yeah I figure since I'm a bit heavier then most other skiers I'd prolly wouldn't have too much issue buttering them just wanted some first hand experience. Appreciate you!
iggyskierJeffrey 102 mounted +2cm of recommended is a pretty popular spring Hood park/fuck around ski for factory employees. At your size you won't have any issues buttering it.
Sep 8 2021 12:32PM
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RAcecARman
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If youre having a hard time with butters on a captis and you are looking for something that specifically is easier for butters idk if the Jeff is for you. The captis is much softer than the Jeffrey, even the magnus Is stiffer than the captis by a noticeable amount.
Sep 9 2021 4:19PM
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animator
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RAcecARmanIf youre having a hard time with butters on a captis and you are looking for something that specifically is easier for butters idk if the Jeff is for you. The captis is much softer than the Jeffrey, even the magnus Is stiffer than the captis by a noticeable amount.


Yeah this is true but also keep in mind that the first priority for black crows when designing their skis is their “skiability” in terms of being able to hold an edge and be capable on piste. The captis is definitely softer than both the jeff and the mag but it has very little rocker and it’s not the easiest ski to get up on the tips and tails (I owned one as a park ski for a while). I bought a Jeff 108 and immediately found it way easier to leverage the rocker profile and do butters (it took me half a season to really actually bend the ski during butters, but that was my technique, not the skis themselves).
Sep 9 2021 6:11PM
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lil.Boye
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my old kartel 108 are a nice stiff but buttery ski. they need a bit of a break in on the butter side but they are nice and stable skis. perfect combo of charge and play
Sep 10 2021 7:49AM
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