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phatlip
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I am looking for a fun, but stable, resort ski. Needs to handle a bit of hardpack and speed, but also be quick and easy skiing trees and just playing around. Not planning on going to the park, but I like a more centered mount point. Changed out Sakanas and SFBs for the new Devs at the end of last season and want something narrower for when it is less/harder snow.

Any thoughts?
Sep 3 2021 5:33PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Sep 3 2021 5:51PM
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Celery
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Sego Bighorn 96 might genuinely be a good choice.
Sep 3 2021 6:15PM
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keagan.karstens
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I was on the Nordica soul rider 97s for several years. Great skis, Nordica also has fantastic customer service. They replaced my skis for free on two occasions.
Sep 3 2021 8:08PM
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CatdickBojangles
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Jeffrey 96s
Sep 3 2021 8:20PM
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Non_State_Actor
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I think you should look at the Fischer Ranger 102 FR mounted a couple cm forward of recommended.

Moment Deathwish 104, Volkl Revolt 104...I feel like this segment is really crowded with good options these days.
Sep 3 2021 9:04PM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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Iirc @patagonialuke said the Ranger 102 FR would be his go to all around quiver ski
mystery3I think you should look at the Fischer Ranger 102 FR mounted a couple cm forward of recommended.

Moment Deathwish 104, Volkl Revolt 104...I feel like this segment is really crowded with good options these days.
Sep 3 2021 10:16PM
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phatlip
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They look nice, but c n get them where I live.
CelerySego Bighorn 96 might genuinely be a good choice.
Sep 4 2021 5:27AM
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phatlip
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Hi, I have been interested in the Fischers, but the mount point is almost 10 cm from center. Hver you tried them more forward?
mystery3I think you should look at the Fischer Ranger 102 FR mounted a couple cm forward of recommended.

Moment Deathwish 104, Volkl Revolt 104...I feel like this segment is really crowded with good options these days.
Sep 4 2021 5:28AM
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phatlip
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Anyone been happy with mounting them around -4 or -5?
Sep 4 2021 5:48AM
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Greg_K
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You could probably go about +4cm(-6cm of Center) and still be good but anymore than that and you’ll be fighting the sidecut.

Owned the 102FR(had mine plus 2.5cm), Enforcer 104, PB&J(old version of Wildcat 101), Menace 98/Slicer Factory and my current 2021 CT 2.0 are a great mix of all the these skis.
Found the 102FR were great carvers but not very damp or quiet with the carbon tips and not as forgiving in bumps or off trail. The Enforcers were super fun off piste and bumps but not as quiet or as good edge grip on firm snow. PB&J lacked grip on harder snow and not great float for a 101mm. Menace 98 had great grip, super stable and very quiet but it’s blunt tips weren’t great for afternoon crud.

2021 CT 2.0 are made in the Fisher race ski plant with lots of dampening materials, little taper for great grip, perfect turning radius for high speeds and a firm but more forgiving flex than the 102 FR. Afraid the CT Faction line gets lighter and moves factories for 2022 but lots of great deals on the 2021 versions.

I’d actually go for the 2021 CT 1.0 which is 92mm underfoot but exact same construction as the CT 2.0. Very damp, great grip and fun everywhere. Not great float but you have wider skis for that. Mounts from -2cm(Candide/park mount) to -5cm(traditional). See them listed for $399 CAN right now and places in the States have them for $375. Europe have even better prices on them. Pondering getting a pair of backups with them being so cheap now.
Sep 4 2021 10:17AM
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Jacobthesadskier
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mystery3I think you should look at the Fischer Ranger 102 FR mounted a couple cm forward of recommended.

Moment Deathwish 104, Volkl Revolt 104...I feel like this segment is really crowded with good options these days.

Plus, the fishers look really cool in pink.
Sep 4 2021 12:46PM
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WoFlowz
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The *redacted* makes the whole mountain your playground. We designed a new layup for the *redacted* with Freeride World Tour Champion Isaac Freeland that preserves its playful nature while improving its ability to hold up to the highest speeds and largest airs on the mountain. What we've developed is the perfect balance between the confidence to shred anything and the playfulness to jib to your heart's content. Available in 96, 106, and 114mm widths the *redacted* has a full poplar wood core with layers of biaxial carbon fiber wrapped in vibration dampening rubber sandwiching the core.
Sep 4 2021 1:24PM
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WoFlowz
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WoFlowzThe *redacted* makes the whole mountain your playground. We designed a new layup for the *redacted* with Freeride World Tour Champion Isaac Freeland that preserves its playful nature while improving its ability to hold up to the highest speeds and largest airs on the mountain. What we've developed is the perfect balance between the confidence to shred anything and the playfulness to jib to your heart's content. Available in 96, 106, and 114mm widths the *redacted* has a full poplar wood core with layers of biaxial carbon fiber wrapped in vibration dampening rubber sandwiching the core.


No but seriously the Big Horn 96 as @Celery said could be a great option for you here’s the roof box review https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/The-Roofbox-Reviews-2018-Sego-Big-Horn-96
Sep 4 2021 1:27PM
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phatlip
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Great, thanks a lot! Need to check them out.
Greg_KYou could probably go about +4cm(-6cm of Center) and still be good but anymore than that and you’ll be fighting the sidecut.

Owned the 102FR(had mine plus 2.5cm), Enforcer 104, PB&J(old version of Wildcat 101), Menace 98/Slicer Factory and my current 2021 CT 2.0 are a great mix of all the these skis.
Found the 102FR were great carvers but not very damp or quiet with the carbon tips and not as forgiving in bumps or off trail. The Enforcers were super fun off piste and bumps but not as quiet or as good edge grip on firm snow. PB&J lacked grip on harder snow and not great float for a 101mm. Menace 98 had great grip, super stable and very quiet but it’s blunt tips weren’t great for afternoon crud.

2021 CT 2.0 are made in the Fisher race ski plant with lots of dampening materials, little taper for great grip, perfect turning radius for high speeds and a firm but more forgiving flex than the 102 FR. Afraid the CT Faction line gets lighter and moves factories for 2022 but lots of great deals on the 2021 versions.

I’d actually go for the 2021 CT 1.0 which is 92mm underfoot but exact same construction as the CT 2.0. Very damp, great grip and fun everywhere. Not great float but you have wider skis for that. Mounts from -2cm(Candide/park mount) to -5cm(traditional). See them listed for $399 CAN right now and places in the States have them for $375. Europe have even better prices on them. Pondering getting a pair of backups with them being so cheap now.
Sep 4 2021 1:34PM
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phatlip
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Anyone been on the Fischer Ranger 94?
Sep 4 2021 1:35PM
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Greg_K
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phatlipAnyone been on the Fischer Ranger 94?


Yes, it’s very similar in sidecut(just narrower overall) and has the same flex. The issue with it is it’s light weight that makes it less damp and not as great when things get rough/variable.

In addition to the 2021 Faction CT 1.0, another new ski that looks very similar is the new JSkis Fastforward. Should be nice a damp, have good edge grip but still be playful.
Sep 4 2021 6:13PM
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phatlip
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Do you think the 102 is a better option? Even when its hard?
Greg_KYes, it’s very similar in sidecut(just narrower overall) and has the same flex. The issue with it is it’s light weight that makes it less damp and not as great when things get rough/variable.

In addition to the 2021 Faction CT 1.0, another new ski that looks very similar is the new JSkis Fastforward. Should be nice a damp, have good edge grip but still be playful.
Sep 5 2021 1:39PM
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Greg_K
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phatlipDo you think the 102 is a better option? Even when its hard?

Yes, because of the extra weight on the 102 FR will make it more stable through variable terrain. Similar shape so it will be slightly quicker edge to edge on the 94 but edge grip similar as is the carbon tips that aren’t quiet on firm snow. Skis like the 2021 CT 1.0, CT 2.0, Sego and JSkis as well as many other freestyle skis that use rubber to dampen them make them much quieter on hard snow.

If you didn’t have the Devastator, the Fisher 102 FR is a fantastic one ski quiver choice but would be too much overlap with the dev.
I’d lean more towards a lower-mid 90s width ski that’s more damp.
Sep 5 2021 3:06PM
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phatlip
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Thanks a lot. Do you have any other suggestions? Cant get the Jskis over here.
Greg_KYes, because of the extra weight on the 102 FR will make it more stable through variable terrain. Similar shape so it will be slightly quicker edge to edge on the 94 but edge grip similar as is the carbon tips that aren’t quiet on firm snow. Skis like the 2021 CT 1.0, CT 2.0, Sego and JSkis as well as many other freestyle skis that use rubber to dampen them make them much quieter on hard snow.

If you didn’t have the Devastator, the Fisher 102 FR is a fantastic one ski quiver choice but would be too much overlap with the dev.
I’d lean more towards a lower-mid 90s width ski that’s more damp.
Sep 5 2021 3:34PM
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Greg_K
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phatlipThanks a lot. Do you have any other suggestions? Cant get the Jskis over here.


Where are you? If Europe, Faction skis are even cheaper over there! Pondering getting getting a back up pair of 2021 CT 1.0 for a similar use ski as they are so cheap this time of year and the fact that it gets way lighter in this years model.
Sep 5 2021 3:46PM
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phatlip
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Yes, Norway. I will take a closer look at the CTs then.
Greg_KWhere are you? If Europe, Faction skis are even cheaper over there! Pondering getting getting a back up pair of 2021 CT 1.0 for a similar use ski as they are so cheap this time of year and the fact that it gets way lighter in this years model.
Sep 5 2021 3:58PM
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Greg_K
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phatlipYes, Norway. I will take a closer look at the CTs then.

@Anders_N lives there and just picked up a pair for a great deal recently. He also owns the 2021 CT 3.0 and CT 2.0 like me as well as many previous versions. 2021 version of the CT 1.0 is much damper and stronger so that’s the one you want!
Sep 5 2021 4:07PM
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Greg_K
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See Faction’s main webpage has stock of the 2021 CT 1.0 under their Sale section at 30% off. Got mine around 40-45% here in Canada so might be even better deals at the local dealers near you.
Sep 5 2021 4:24PM
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anders_a
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hmm didnt get tagged

braasport.no is having a supersale on factions, as is sport bittle in germany, do the math and checkout where to get them, I got mine from braasport.


I have a jskis for sale also btw :p

**This post was edited on Sep 6th 2021 at 3:06:20am
Sep 6 2021 3:04AM
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phatlip
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Which length did you get? Not sure if the 178 is to long (but see they measures closer to 176 ref NS review). Did you have the 1.0 already? If so, whats your thoughts on them?
anders_ahmm didnt get tagged

braasport.no is having a supersale on factions, as is sport bittle in germany, do the math and checkout where to get them, I got mine from braasport.


I have a jskis for sale also btw :p

**This post was edited on Sep 6th 2021 at 3:06:20am
Sep 6 2021 4:32AM
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anders_a
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I got the 183? I belive they were, since I'm 190cm'ish I always get the longest.... but hey also long skis rock. both 1.0 and 2.0 2021's should be fire for wyller and such, even the 3.0 is! used the 3.0's for skied out days with shitty slush/bumps/refrozen.

sakanas, sfb, devs are all very good, but when conditions are rougher, they are a bit lacking. the 2018 and 2020 devs in 194 was amazing though, but you feel the 8KG of skis skiiig the the 2018 :D

I just got the 1.0's 2 weeks ago actually due to the good sale, I havent tried them at indoor due to misc stuff + bum knee still needing some more rest...
Sep 6 2021 4:52AM
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CharlzHub
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If you don't need a twin tip ski you should consider the line blade. I demo'd it one day and it is seriously out the gate
Sep 6 2021 5:44AM
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anders_a
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I have the line blade and OP is local so he can try them if he wants, but they are a bit to wide for our local hill for most days, but I love it for the softer/slushier days.

my favorite is 80-90mm range. but I will change up during the day quite often, grabbbing 2 pairs lets you have fun all day.
Sep 6 2021 6:20AM
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Greg_K
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@phatlip What is your size and the lengths of your other skis?

The CT 1.0 will ski short with the more forward mount and measures about 2cm
shorter than spec. I’d mount around -1.5 to 2cm back of the Candide mark(-3.5 to 4cm from Center) for your use.
Sep 6 2021 8:37AM
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phatlip
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Thanks a lot for advice, if I still can get them I will def give then a try!
Greg_K@phatlip What is your size and the lengths of your other skis?

The CT 1.0 will ski short with the more forward mount and measures about 2cm
shorter than spec. I’d mount around -1.5 to 2cm back of the Candide mark(-3.5 to 4cm from Center) for your use.
Sep 6 2021 12:42PM
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phatlip
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Thanks for that, maybe this winter, would be fun to try the Blade. I will try and get my hands on a pair if CT 1.0 on 177.
anders_aI have the line blade and OP is local so he can try them if he wants, but they are a bit to wide for our local hill for most days, but I love it for the softer/slushier days.

my favorite is 80-90mm range. but I will change up during the day quite often, grabbbing 2 pairs lets you have fun all day.
Sep 6 2021 12:44PM
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