Dynafit ST Rotations - Good or Bad ???

Welcome to NS, not a lot of people skis with pin bindings here, be ready for people telling you to go to TGR, don't take it the wrong way ;)



Dynafit ST Rotations is a classic pin binding, you can't really go wrong with it.

For lightweight pin bindings that perform well on the down, I personally like the G3 Zed.

Also, a lot of people are really happy with the Fritschi Tecton, apparently they ski very well, I never tried them though but may be worth taking a look.

Good luck!

I tour some but mostly do freeride

Overlooked this a bit, when you say you mostly do freeride, do you mean resort/lift access open terrain?

If you ski over 50% of the time in the resort you might want to take a look at hybrid bindings like the Salomon/Atomic/Armada Shift or the Marker Duke PT.

The Shifts are great binding IF they're set up properly (most people having pre-release issues just don't have it setup properly), and I can't speak for the Dukes.

**This post was edited on Aug 3rd 2021 at 3:35:48pm

**This post was edited on Aug 3rd 2021 at 3:36:01pm

Solid binding. I had a pretty heavily used set that got me through my first season in the BC. Had some pre-release issues, but they were pretty thrashed when I got them.

Upgraded to the Solomon MTN last February and have been loving them. Super sturdy and I'm a big fan of how the heel piece functions (quicker and easier when switching from climb to ski). Based on my experience, I'd say the MTNs have way better retention than the STs. I felt super comfortable "charging" on a pair of 1200g LaSpos and never experienced any pre-release.

They're fine, but there are better options on the market at this point in my experience.

Clarifying what you mean by "freeride" would help a lot. If you are mostly skiing inbounds, you should be looking at CAST, Shift, or maybe the new Duke.

That said, if you're looking at this class of binding, the Atomic/Salomon MTN is a pretty foolproof/bombproof option that I'd trust more than the ST's, as well as the ATK Freeraider 14/any of the rebranded versions, especially the Moment Voyager 12/16.

thanks all for the support!

by freeride i do mainly off trail resort style skiing. sometimes take boot-packing to a fun chute or two.

YoungChristmas, i could not find 1200g LaSpos through a web search. could you be more specific or send a link? thanks!

nounderpantsthanks all for the support!

by freeride i do mainly off trail resort style skiing. sometimes take boot-packing to a fun chute or two.

YoungChristmas, i could not find 1200g LaSpos through a web search. could you be more specific or send a link? thanks!

LaSpo refers to La Sportiva boots. I can agree with @cydwhit here and 100% advocate for the ATK Freeraiders. Super badass tech binding.

they are decent enough bindings, but they do nothing that ATK Raider12s / Moment Voyagers do not do at nearly half their weight.

Rotations aka a 600gr classic tech binding just do not make sense to me - at all. They ski no better than all the tech bindings that weigh in at around 300-350gr. If you want a ski in that weight range Fritschi Vipecs have a better ride feel (front elasticty and non-rotating heel piece for a much smoother hard snow feel and better power transfer), where Tectons will be an even stronger skiing binding. If you are going to do limited skinning from a resort then Cast-ified Look Pivots are a good option as well, more so than Shifts that can be a bit finicky/sensitive to correct setup or Duke PTs (recently released Markers, so perhaps issue prone).

and just to clearify, the rotation part does not provide elasticity, it is there to prevent pre-release (that the binding releases in a situation where it should not). But as pre-releasing isn't much of a problem with say MTNs or the various ATKs, they do not need the "feature" and are able to build much lighter bindings that skis just as well - or even better in some cases.

in closing, if you plan to use the skis a lot in resorts then I would not go with a pin binding. Your knees will thank you later. Tech bindings are light and a joy to tour on, but their ride feel is harsh on hard snow / groomers and nearly all forces are transferred to your feet from impacts underfoot (not like alpine bindings where their elasticity mutes a lot of chatter) - so not ideal for prolonged resort use, something they are not from a safety point of view as well due to their release characteristics.