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KA-47
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Here we go again,

The CDC and the government let us have our fun for the summer, now we have to muzzle ourselves and the children again. The media talks about cases but rarely touches upon deaths. I thought that from the beginning of the vaccination campaign that people understood that the vaccine would lessen the symptoms of Covid but not necessarily deter it. Why are people getting all freaked out about cases!? We should be focusing on death rate and treating the cases.

Yes, more people need to get vaccinated.

I do not think the government has the right to mandate it, but if they do, so be it. People will not be happy with it.

We should NOT be masking children as their case rate, transmission rate, and mortality rate are next to nothing. At this point it is just political theatre to mask them. And I do not see how the CDC made the decision to lift the mask mandate in May, but now it is crucial.

It is all a mess and I feel bad for our kids that have to keep living through this. The blame is not on Trump voters, there are plenty of people in blue areas not getting vaccinated.

I do not know the solution, but it all feels very wrong.
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Jul 28 2021 2:00AM
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elcheapo
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Weres the I don't care option
Jul 28 2021 2:04AM
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Treegrabber
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Learn to paint your bottle
MOUNTAIN DEW
Jul 28 2021 2:33AM
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HypeBeast
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Tldr....op Tldr.

Children
Jul 28 2021 6:15AM
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SuspiciousFish
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“The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.”

-Adolf Hitler
Jul 28 2021 10:45AM
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abar.
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I have never understood why anyone has ever had an issue with wearing a mask. It's really not that hard

(and yes, I have worn one for 8 hrs straight for work, still not a big deal unless you're exercising)
Jul 28 2021 12:44PM
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Film.
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abar.I have never understood why anyone has ever had an issue with wearing a mask. It's really not that hard

(and yes, I have worn one for 8 hrs straight for work, still not a big deal unless you're exercising)


Jul 28 2021 1:53PM
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MiIfHunter
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abar.I have never understood why anyone has ever had an issue with wearing a mask. It's really not that hard

(and yes, I have worn one for 8 hrs straight for work, still not a big deal unless you're exercising)


It’s ignorant to still not be wearing a mask. Everyone should still wear a mask in solidarity with the rest of the world that are not vaccinated yet
Jul 28 2021 2:01PM
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Biffbarf
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abar.I have never understood why anyone has ever had an issue with wearing a mask. It's really not that hard

(and yes, I have worn one for 8 hrs straight for work, still not a big deal unless you're exercising)


I fucking hate wearing a mask. Shit's uncomfy and I'm 69% sure I'm an autist who struggles with social cues and not seeing facial expressions revs up social anxiety by at least 420%

I'vE nEvEr UnDeRsToOd wHy AnYoNe hAs EvEr HaD An IsSuE. Yeah you have. You just wanted to virtue signal.
Jul 28 2021 2:02PM
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MiIfHunter
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BiffbarfI fucking hate wearing a mask. Shit's uncomfy and I'm 69% sure I'm an autist who struggles with social cues and not seeing facial expressions revs up social anxiety by at least 420%

I'vE nEvEr UnDeRsToOd wHy AnYoNe hAs EvEr HaD An IsSuE. Yeah you have. You just wanted to virtue signal.


Don’t you have sympathy for others and those still affected?
Jul 28 2021 2:33PM
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eheath
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MiIfHunterDon’t you have sympathy for others and those still affected?


I don't have sympathy for anti-vaxxers/people who think they don't need to get it. If you have health reasons that prevent you from receiving the vaccine, that's about the only legit reason why you shouldn't get it.

We have a stockpile of vaccines and plenty of resources to distribute it, the US was on an amazing pace and we're being shuttered by scared/dumb/hesitant people. People who are vaccinated shouldn't be punished because the other 30% of our population is too stupid/selfish/ignorant.

I don't blame anyone who is vaccinated for being frustrated about having to wear a mask, I'm guessing this new CDC guideline will only further confuse our citizens and further divide us as a country. The areas where masks actually might help right now are places with low vax rates and tons of people who refused to receive it, so I doubt they'll be wearing masks.
Jul 28 2021 2:42PM
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ColoradoDogfart
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I’m so fucking mad. We worked so hard last year to try and get COVID cases down and during the last week of school they said masks would be optional last week. All I want is a normal ducking snr year and now I’m gonna have to deal with this COVID bullshit again. Make un vaxxed kids wear them idk. But the whole point of getting vaxxed was to go back to normal not just to repeat the same bull shit over again
Jul 28 2021 3:01PM
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KA-47
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eheathI don't have sympathy for anti-vaxxers/people who think they don't need to get it. If you have health reasons that prevent you from receiving the vaccine, that's about the only legit reason why you shouldn't get it.

We have a stockpile of vaccines and plenty of resources to distribute it, the US was on an amazing pace and we're being shuttered by scared/dumb/hesitant people. People who are vaccinated shouldn't be punished because the other 30% of our population is too stupid/selfish/ignorant.

I don't blame anyone who is vaccinated for being frustrated about having to wear a mask, I'm guessing this new CDC guideline will only further confuse our citizens and further divide us as a country. The areas where masks actually might help right now are places with low vax rates and tons of people who refused to receive it, so I doubt they'll be wearing masks.


I completely agree! By their new metrics we will need to wear them forever. Also, when/if they lift the mask mandate they will look like complete fools. My guess is that this is just a push to approve the vaccine for children 12 and under and to additionally sell the third/fourth round of vaccines..."If you get the booster you can take off the mask"...

And then the cycle of selling/coercing the public will begin again.

Simply terrible communication.
Jul 28 2021 4:44PM
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eheath
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KA-47I completely agree! By their new metrics we will need to wear them forever. Also, when/if they lift the mask mandate they will look like complete fools. My guess is that this is just a push to approve the vaccine for children 12 and under and to additionally sell the third/fourth round of vaccines..."If you get the booster you can take off the mask"...

And then the cycle of selling/coercing the public will begin again.

Simply terrible communication.


Well for now, its just a "recommendation" I don't really have an opinion about schools and kids, i don't know shit about that and haven't been following any of it because it doesn't affect me. Teachers would be stupid to not be vaccinated and if it's safe for children, they should get it too.

This all comes down to hitting a certain number and people are just selfish for not getting vax'd, it's the same shit with voting, if everyone actually voted we'd probably be a lot happier about our political system. It's so each to do both things, but the rhetoric surrounding them is not only hurting these people, but the entire country.
Jul 28 2021 4:50PM
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GayWolf420
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MiIfHunterIt’s ignorant to still not be wearing a mask. Everyone should still wear a mask in solidarity with the rest of the world that are not vaccinated yet

Milfy, do you wear a mask when you eat ass?
Jul 28 2021 5:25PM
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abar.
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abar.I have never understood why anyone has ever had an issue with wearing a mask. It's really not that hard

(and yes, I have worn one for 8 hrs straight for work, still not a big deal unless you're exercising)


I suppose I'll clarify this since I wasn't expecting all the downvotes, I'm not saying that you should all wear masks now and that we shouldn't get back to normal, I'm just speaking as to mostly my experience last year when I had a service job where I needed to wear a mask and just generally going out in public during the mask mandates, and it just never bothered me personally, I didn't mind it at all.

If you are fully vaccinated as of now, I do not blame you at all for not wanting to wear a mask and I don't think you should need to. The problem is that there are still enough communities in the US where vaccination rates are low enough to act as a breeding ground for the delta variant and keep it circulating, and there's no way to distinguish who is and isn't vaccinated without an ID system that I guarantee would get even more backlash than a mask mandate. I agree that it sucks that some places are needing to require masks again, but it will be that way until every single community gets herd immunity levels of vaccination.

If you are working somewhere hot or doing something strenuous, I can totally imagine that wearing a mask would be hell and I feel you there, or I suppose you could just be more sensitive to that sort of thing than me. I just never felt it was a big deal and I think that the "tha gubment is putting muzzles on us and takin our freedomz" people are massively overreacting and mostly ideologically motivated.
Jul 28 2021 6:03PM
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BrandoComando
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I didn't use to think this way, but I'm to the point where I strongly believe more organizations need to make vaccinations mandatory. Vaccines have always been mandatory for schools and medical professionals. The Covid vax should be no different.

All this optional "we recommend getting vaccines" and back and forth on mask mandates are the reason why 40% of adult Americans still aren't vaccinated. The communication is confusing and there aren't any good incentives to get a vaccine for many people. Until you start taking away rights, Americans prefer not to act on something.

I'm happy to see that vaccines are being mandated by more and more businesses and organizations. Most Universities are making vaccines mandatory. Biden is about to make it mandatory for all Federal workers. The VA just made them mandatory, as well as the American Medical Association and American Nurses Association for all healthcare workers.

Statistics show that of the remaining 40% unvaccinated, half of them are on the fence about the issue. And the other 20% are completely against the vaccine. If we can vaccinate the 20% on the fence, herd immunity should hopefully kick in and protect the children, immuno-comprimised, and everyone else who is still at risk and can't be vaxed at this time.

Delta is straight up killing people and the government was forced to do something about it. The pandemic is only a problem for unvaxed Americans. It's like damn elementary school where the whole class gets punished because a few bad kids weren't listening. Take away recess for the bad kids and let the rest of us go play.
Jul 28 2021 6:59PM
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r00kie
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BrandoComandoUntil you start taking away rights, Americans prefer not to act on something.


I think you don't understand what a 'right' is. Rights can not just simply be taken away. This is a horrible precendent to set.

**This post was edited on Jul 28th 2021 at 9:19:32pm
Jul 28 2021 9:15PM
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BrandoComando
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r00kieI think you don't understand what a 'right' is. Rights can not just simply be taken away. This is a horrible precendent to set.

**This post was edited on Jul 28th 2021 at 9:19:32pm


I misspoke. Rights are rights. But I think it’s perfectly reasonable to lose privileges and opportunities if you’re a frontline worker. The government has an obligation to protect its citizens, even if it means placing restrictions on certain individuals
Jul 28 2021 10:14PM
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Biffbarf
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BrandoComandoI misspoke. Rights are rights. But I think it’s perfectly reasonable to lose privileges and opportunities if you’re a frontline worker. The government has an obligation to protect its citizens, even if it means placing restrictions on certain individuals


Re-read what you just wrote, real slow.
Jul 28 2021 10:50PM
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BrandoComando
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BiffbarfRe-read what you just wrote, real slow.


Shit lol. I give up. I can’t write
Jul 28 2021 11:17PM
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mrk127
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The amount of retards that still refuse to get the vaccine boggles my mind. I get being skeptical about it at first but like why not get it by now, millions of people have gotten the vaccines and the data obviously shows there are no major side effects. All the right-tards will say shit like "I'm thinking for myself and not being a sheep" no Karen, denying the past few decades of immunology research does not make you a free thinker it, it makes you look ignorant.
Fuck it's obnoxious, rant over.
Jul 29 2021 12:44AM
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CLQ
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mrk127The amount of retards that still refuse to get the vaccine boggles my mind. I get being skeptical about it at first but like why not get it by now, millions of people have gotten the vaccines and the data obviously shows there are no major side effects. All the right-tards will say shit like "I'm thinking for myself and not being a sheep" no Karen, denying the past few decades of immunology research does not make you a free thinker it, it makes you look ignorant.
Fuck it's obnoxious, rant over.


Conservatives are killing themselves to own the libs lol
Jul 29 2021 1:59AM
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HypeBeast
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You know what's fucking crazy? Our covid daily total is actually higher now than last summer. I saw some official was predicting we could be back to 200k+ cases a day come fall or early winter. That honestly doesn't sound out of the question especially with kids added to the mix. Kids were largely unscathed due to quarantines and masking and distancing last year. Good news is that many of the at risk people are vaccinated so we shouldn't have as high of death rates. Pediatric complications are still no joke; MIS-C is one of the scariest things I've seen.

**This post was edited on Jul 29th 2021 at 3:36:46am
Jul 29 2021 3:34AM
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skierman
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"It is all a mess and I feel bad for our kids that have to keep living through this. The blame is not on Trump voters, there are plenty of people in blue areas not getting vaccinated."

Actually the blame is on Trump supporters because they're the ones not getting fucking vaccinated. I know it comes as shocking to tribal assholes like you but Trump voters can live in "blue areas".
Jul 29 2021 7:01AM
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PacificRimJob
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Lol people who really bitch about wearing a mask are finding the pettiest shit to complain about.
Jul 29 2021 3:57PM
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Film.
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You're playing yourself if you think this all ends when "everyone" is vaccinated.
Jul 29 2021 4:07PM
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abar.
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Film.You're playing yourself if you think this all ends when "everyone" is vaccinated.


Yeah, there is a possibility that a variant that the vaccine doesn't work against will come out of some developing country that isn't getting vaccines until 2023 cuz the US bought them all.

But that is definitely not an excuse to not get vaccinated, because it can be all over in the US for the time being if we all get vaccinated
Jul 29 2021 5:00PM
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mrk127
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Film.You're playing yourself if you think this all ends when "everyone" is vaccinated.

Why not? I mean if the variants really get out of hand, vaccine companies will just make a vaccine booster shot. Maybe you’re right tho cuz there will be retards that will refuse the booster too
Jul 29 2021 6:01PM
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Film.
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mrk127Why not? I mean if the variants really get out of hand, vaccine companies will just make a vaccine booster shot. Maybe you’re right tho cuz there will be retards that will refuse the booster too

“This all ends if we lockdown for just 2 weeks”

”This all ends if everyone just wears a mask”

”This all ends if everyone just gets the vaccine”

”This all ends if everyone just gets the booster”


Rinse, repeat.

And as discussed above whatever variants come from 3rd world countries where there are billions of people living in poverty/ without vaccines do not help either.
Jul 29 2021 6:23PM
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jompcock
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I'm vaccinated so a mask is gonna be a hard pass for me
Jul 29 2021 9:00PM
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WoFlowz
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If you’re dumb enough to not get a vaccine and complain about this shit go fuck yourself bud. But I think for younger people unable to get the vaccine it should be mandated. As to older people I feel like by 12 you should have enough fucking brain cells to trust science and if your parents don’t they are shit parents
Jul 29 2021 9:09PM
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T.L.
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Jul 29 2021 9:15PM
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MoneyMakerMike
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At this point if you’re at risk you should be in charge of your own safety and wear a mask, stay home, etc. People that are vaccinated and healthy shouldn’t have to wear masks or social distance.
Jul 29 2021 11:37PM
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mrk127
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Film.“This all ends if we lockdown for just 2 weeks”

”This all ends if everyone just wears a mask”

”This all ends if everyone just gets the vaccine”

”This all ends if everyone just gets the booster”


Rinse, repeat.

lol true that, vaccines are still dope tho
Jul 30 2021 2:17AM
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r00kie
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MoneyMakerMikeAt this point if you’re at risk you should be in charge of your own safety and wear a mask, stay home, etc. People that are vaccinated and healthy shouldn’t have to wear masks or social distance.


Are you implying personal responsibility? Perhaps we don't need the government to proctect us from ourselves? What an innovative new idea!
Jul 30 2021 8:32AM
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skiP.E.I.
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Can we please get a ban on these obvious agenda bots/trolls
Jul 30 2021 10:10AM
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JAHpow
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Jul 30 2021 10:29AM
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MiIfHunter
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DingoSeanLol people who really bitch about wearing a mask are finding the pettiest shit to complain about.


Finally a voice of reason and a man that seems to understand condom politics
Jul 30 2021 10:55AM
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Christian_Bale
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"the blame is not on trump voters" well it mostly is. The statistics indicate that people on the right are more skeptical of the vaccine and less of them are getting it. And you've got scumbags like tucker carlson spreading fear about the vaccine while he most likely got it himself. obviously there's people on the left too who aren't getting it. At this point, either get vaccinated or stay the fuck at home/wear a mask. But unvaccinated idiots are going to raves/festivals/concerts etc.
Jul 30 2021 12:17PM
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skierman
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Christian_Bale"the blame is not on trump voters" well it mostly is. The statistics indicate that people on the right are more skeptical of the vaccine and less of them are getting it. And you've got scumbags like tucker carlson spreading fear about the vaccine while he most likely got it himself. obviously there's people on the left too who aren't getting it. At this point, either get vaccinated or stay the fuck at home/wear a mask. But unvaccinated idiots are going to raves/festivals/concerts etc.


The stupid fuck Trump supporters have no idea that Fox News has a vaccine mandate, meaning they all had to get it including Tucker.
Jul 30 2021 12:30PM
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MiIfHunter
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skiermanThe stupid fuck Trump supporters have no idea that Fox News has a vaccine mandate, meaning they all had to get it including Tucker.


Yo ur dirty ass with Tucker
Jul 30 2021 12:48PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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Christian_Bale"the blame is not on trump voters" well it mostly is. The statistics indicate that people on the right are more skeptical of the vaccine and less of them are getting it. And you've got scumbags like tucker carlson spreading fear about the vaccine while he most likely got it himself. obviously there's people on the left too who aren't getting it. At this point, either get vaccinated or stay the fuck at home/wear a mask. But unvaccinated idiots are going to raves/festivals/concerts etc.


I love that we’ve gotten to the point where if you are right leaning or conservative you are automatically a Trump voter. What a time to be alive!
Jul 30 2021 1:45PM
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JAHpow
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All National Parks now require people that are 2 and older, regardless of vaccination status, to wear a mask inside their facilities.

I'm going to Yellowstone and Tetons in like a week. I'll see how fast I get kicked out for not wearing one.
Jul 30 2021 1:55PM
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r00kie
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JAHpowAll National Parks now require people that are 2 and older, regardless of vaccination status, to wear a mask inside their facilities.

I'm going to Yellowstone and Tetons in like a week. I'll see how fast I get kicked out for not wearing one.


I feel like they'll only care inside of visitor centers and other indoor or crowded areas.
Jul 30 2021 2:01PM
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r00kie
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Charlie_KellyI love that we’ve gotten to the point where if you are right leaning or conservative you are automatically a Trump voter. What a time to be alive!


Generalization is the only form of political discourse these days.
Jul 30 2021 2:20PM
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theabortionator
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Jul 30 2021 2:27PM
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MiIfHunter
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theabortionator

Condom politics 101:wear a mask ————>reduce the spreadd
Jul 30 2021 2:59PM
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Andi_G
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Charlie_KellyI love that we’ve gotten to the point where if you are right leaning or conservative you are automatically a Trump voter. What a time to be alive!

Its easy to say that all Trump voters lean right or conservative, that doesn't mean the opposite. Not all rectangles are squares but all squares sure as hell are rectangles. Now we're seeing vaccination rates that are way shittier with those voters backed up by statistics. It shouldn't be a surprise given who has been peddling misinformation about the seriousness of Covid, distrusting our country's medical experts, and inspiring low confidence in the vaccine. Its been hilarious to see all these same right wing officials and news outlets walking back their bullshit to cover their tracks and beg people to get vaccinated now like they weren't the ones who opened Pandora's box and fanned the flames.

The fact is that the USA is the richest country on earth so we could buy a ton of vaccines when it was first developed. A lot of those vaccines have gone to waste because people here wont take them. Statistically, the blame goes to Trump voters for wasting the majority of them. Every vaccine wasted is one less vaccinated person on the planet which means it lengthens the time for Covid to run rampant and mutate into variants.

Apparently if anyone mentions that then it turns into people bitching and moaning about how the "lefties" persecute people for their conservative views. Shut the fuck up and stop playing victim or retreating behind "what happened to good civil debate?"
Jul 30 2021 3:26PM
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Film.
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skiermanThe stupid fuck Trump supporters have no idea that Fox News has a vaccine mandate, meaning they all had to get it including Tucker.

Per usual don't treat anything skierman says as fact.
Tucker may have gotten it, I don't know couldn't find anything about him getting it. But they didn't "have to" as you said above, it was entirely voluntary.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/media/fox-vaccine-passport/index.html

"While the "Fox Clear Pass" is voluntary for employees, and other companies have similar tools, it is still remarkable, given how vocal Fox's top talent has been in criticizing the concept of vaccine passports."

**This post was edited on Jul 30th 2021 at 6:32:38pm
Jul 30 2021 6:31PM
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Celery
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Fuck the unvaxxed highschool kids, they made their choice. They had the option and it is no longer our job to protect them.
ColoradoDogfartI’m so fucking mad. We worked so hard last year to try and get COVID cases down and during the last week of school they said masks would be optional last week. All I want is a normal ducking snr year and now I’m gonna have to deal with this COVID bullshit again. Make un vaxxed kids wear them idk. But the whole point of getting vaxxed was to go back to normal not just to repeat the same bull shit over again


**This post was edited on Jul 30th 2021 at 10:30:08pm
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