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Skaters still go big, why cant skiers

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big.love
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Skiing got soft. Skateboarding is has never stopped progressing. Skiing got really pussy. All of you that encourage going slower and turning more are a bunch of pussies. Fuck you @hoodcrew, fuck you @theBunch, you influenced all these kids to be wavy or whatever and now ski content sucks ass. Fuckin props to the homies that still ski like a boss and go big and aren't trendy little bitches. peace. /summerNS
Jul 19 2021 12:39AM
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ASSholebomber22
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ok gramps time for bed now
Jul 19 2021 12:51AM
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Treegrabber
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I totally agree
Back in my day u had to be a real athlete to ski
not any of these pussys rideing around on there plane skis or whatever those little fucks call em doing there little “nosebutters”
Jul 19 2021 1:02AM
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dognutz
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skiing is soft naturally my guy
Jul 19 2021 1:09AM
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mrk127
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Massive straight airs > shuffling around in a circle
Jul 19 2021 1:32AM
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warm_diet_coke
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tbh as someone who skates and skis, average skating will always be inherently more metal than average skiing. i ❤️ skiing tho because i hate busting myself up on concrete.
Jul 19 2021 3:37AM
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armchair_skier
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Most skaters I know don't ride anything bigger than a curb.

Also in skiing hitting a 40ft dfd or a 25ft jump is considered "small".
Jul 19 2021 8:43AM
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CatdickBojangles
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Calling upon our lord and savior Big Air Dave. He goes big on any and everything. https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/616250/Big-Air-Dave--Episode-1
Jul 19 2021 8:57AM
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skierman
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I approve of this thread.
Jul 19 2021 9:10AM
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katrina
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Skiing has always been soft?
Jul 19 2021 9:20AM
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-Dan
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Someone didn’t watch Andy P zero that set in MN and it shows.
Jul 19 2021 9:38AM
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little1337
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In what world is the hood crew wavy? I feel like they're the opposite of the bunch
Jul 19 2021 9:46AM
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weastcoat
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It’s okay I remember being dumb once too.
Jul 19 2021 9:58AM
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sindreplassen
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Lots of people went huge last year lol, you are sleepin
Jul 19 2021 10:21AM
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asparagus
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Because if a skater lands half rotated backside 180ing a 16 stair, they’re gonna have a sore tailbone. If a skier lands half rotated on a 40 footer it’s an edge catch to concussion, collarbone and shoulder injury. There’s a reason the average skate pro doesn’t drop a street movie with nothing but massive street rail shots. Both sports have their gnarly aspects and this thread is stupid.
Jul 19 2021 10:25AM
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ReturnToMonkey
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asparagusBecause if a skater lands half rotated backside 180ing a 16 stair, they’re gonna have a sore tailbone. If a skier lands half rotated on a 40 footer it’s an edge catch to concussion, collarbone and shoulder injury. There’s a reason the average skate pro doesn’t drop a street movie with nothing but massive street rail shots. Both sports have their gnarly aspects and this thread is stupid.


I'd argue that a 16 stair is a very easy way to get a bad concussion, shoulder injury, whatever. And in skiing, the only possible concussion (was drunk, didn't go to the doctor, instead went to the bar...) I've had due to landing on a jump was probably on a 60+ foot really bad double attempt landing at the bottom of the jump.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1007032/IMG-8949-1-mov
Fortunately I have only had two bad crashes skating so far, but both of them hurt a lot more than the majority of my plethora of ski crashes. Sliding downhill, and on snow that encourages sliding, allows energy to be conserved and let's you move instead of crushing a bone or muscle. On concrete or rails while skating, there is definitely no cushion. Skate parks are nice due to the smooth concrete allowing sliding, but how often are the worst crashes actually at skate parks?

I'd say the gnar factor of skiing comes with the higher speeds, but even then it's not as bad as skating simply due to the nature of the environment you are riding in
Jul 19 2021 10:40AM
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skiP.E.I.
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There are a lot of people out there doing a lot of different things. Go fast, do butters, jump over things. IDK. Be the change you want to ski.
Jul 19 2021 12:13PM
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WoFlowz
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CatdickBojanglesCalling upon our lord and savior Big Air Dave. He goes big on any and everything. https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/616250/Big-Air-Dave--Episode-1


Only Ohio would breed and raise such a creature
Jul 19 2021 12:24PM
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OregonDead
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armchair_skierMost skaters I know don't ride anything bigger than a curb.

Also in skiing hitting a 40ft dfd or a 25ft jump is considered "small".


this. we have little kid skiers hitting jumps bigger than my house
Jul 19 2021 12:39PM
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vibe.crudo
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Hoodcrew goes big tho, like their whole thing was going bigger than they should, they were hitting some gnarly shit idk why u brought them up lol
Jul 19 2021 12:50PM
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mattytru
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have you ever watched a hood crew movie?
Jul 19 2021 12:54PM
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vibe.crudo
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But like you do have a point and I think its because it's inherently more fun to swerve and do safe tricks than literally cripple yourself trying to be big and gnarly.That being said I made a thread about this a while ago and people showed me some movies where people still go big, it's not the focus of the sport atm but there are still people doing it for sure
Jul 19 2021 12:55PM
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twinkle_toes
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ReturnToMonkeyAnd in skiing, the only possible concussion (was drunk, didn't go to the doctor, instead went to the bar...) I've had due to landing on a jump was probably on a 60+ foot really bad double attempt landing at the bottom of the jump.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1007032/IMG-8949-1-mov

It looked like you had a chance of landing it for a second there... but man that crash looked rough
Jul 19 2021 12:59PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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twinkle_toesIt looked like you had a chance of landing it for a second there... but man that crash looked rough

That's what a mix of skipping leg day for 2 years and being fairly drunk will do to ya.. unfortunately the beer blanket made it fairly painless
Jul 19 2021 1:05PM
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ScaryDumpTruck
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ReturnToMonkeyThat's what a mix of skipping leg day for 2 years and being fairly drunk will do to ya.. unfortunately the beer blanket made it fairly painless

That was dope you just should’ve stayed tucked
Jul 19 2021 1:26PM
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Ben_K
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If you dont like "new wave" content jus dont watch it. No need to grill people for doin what they they like, I agree that if you just ski for clout youre doin it all wrong but no harm in just enjoying and sharing a specific style of slippy sticks. Theyre just slippy sticks man

**This post was edited on Jul 19th 2021 at 1:32:29pm
Jul 19 2021 1:31PM
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Casey
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CatdickBojanglesCalling upon our lord and savior Big Air Dave. He goes big on any and everything. https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/616250/Big-Air-Dave--Episode-1

Didn’t realize how badly I needed to see that again
Jul 19 2021 1:51PM
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Christian_Bale
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ReturnToMonkeyI'd argue that a 16 stair is a very easy way to get a bad concussion, shoulder injury, whatever. And in skiing, the only possible concussion (was drunk, didn't go to the doctor, instead went to the bar...) I've had due to landing on a jump was probably on a 60+ foot really bad double attempt landing at the bottom of the jump.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1007032/IMG-8949-1-mov
Fortunately I have only had two bad crashes skating so far, but both of them hurt a lot more than the majority of my plethora of ski crashes. Sliding downhill, and on snow that encourages sliding, allows energy to be conserved and let's you move instead of crushing a bone or muscle. On concrete or rails while skating, there is definitely no cushion. Skate parks are nice due to the smooth concrete allowing sliding, but how often are the worst crashes actually at skate parks?

I'd say the gnar factor of skiing comes with the higher speeds, but even then it's not as bad as skating simply due to the nature of the environment you are riding in

Actually very impressive that u almost landed that after u opened up
Jul 19 2021 1:55PM
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BLandz
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Whats ur best trick
Jul 19 2021 2:36PM
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WoFlowz
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BLandzWhats ur best trick


ughhhh front 2 off a tube wider than your mom's legs
Jul 19 2021 2:39PM
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NoSkillsCrew
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Never forget Hudson Knolls tranny for ants in that one hood crew part. To lazy to find it. But that is one of the most buck things I ever did see.

also the amount of people going buck wild huge in the bc right now is higher than I ever remember it being.
Jul 19 2021 4:10PM
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bradwalters
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I think we’re missing the main point here. Skiing and skateboarding couldn’t be more different in my opinion. The culture, the accessibility to the sport, what is viewed as success. Different factors and just different people in general.

This thread is salty to the max but comparing the two just seams a bit off base to me.
Jul 19 2021 4:31PM
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hi_vis360
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we did it everybody

we ruined skiing. I'm so happy to see this day after many years of swerving around doing stupid tricks at the mountain. I knew we were heading in this direction after the bunch dropped Finess, and to see it finally here is truly a blessing.
Jul 19 2021 5:52PM
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switchlip2
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OP needs to wear his helmet
Jul 19 2021 7:52PM
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270on420out
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This is how I know OP doesn’t follow skateboarding very closely. Stony low impact tricks are in right now. “Shitty on purpose” is the name of the game. And all the old timers complain about how much they hate it, and how Instagram killed video parts, and how lame all the trends are nowadays. It’s the exact same fucking conversation.
Jul 19 2021 8:31PM
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VT_scratch
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as if you're chirping hood crew rn
Jul 19 2021 9:11PM
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-Dan
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270on420outThis is how I know OP doesn’t follow skateboarding very closely. Stony low impact tricks are in right now. “Shitty on purpose” is the name of the game. And all the old timers complain about how much they hate it, and how Instagram killed video parts, and how lame all the trends are nowadays. It’s the exact same fucking conversation.

Lmao and it’s same same one as 10 years ago when “edits killed movies” old heads gonna old head
Jul 19 2021 9:26PM
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OCoffey
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Hood crew def wasn’t no pussies. Also it’s easier to find the rage in skating cuz it’s real easy to session something. It takes a good hike session and a limited amount of time to find the hype in skiing
Jul 19 2021 10:28PM
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bradwalters
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270on420outThis is how I know OP doesn’t follow skateboarding very closely. Stony low impact tricks are in right now. “Shitty on purpose” is the name of the game. And all the old timers complain about how much they hate it, and how Instagram killed video parts, and how lame all the trends are nowadays. It’s the exact same fucking conversation.


Hey now...Some of us old timers love ALL of it. :)
Jul 19 2021 10:37PM
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SofaKingSick
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Tell your sk8r boy friends to get back to me when they're droppin REAL CLIFFS on REAL MOUNTAINS
Jul 20 2021 12:08AM
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ULA_THC
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Newschool like bunchs is good, has own style and vision, mainstreem sucks and mainstreem create pussies who ski powder only. Skating is similar to freestyle, culture and peoples are lovely and we both love street. I think we should do whatever makes you happy and swim as long as possible on this vave YOU create in your head/life, and Fuck mainstream please.
Peace
Jul 20 2021 8:51AM
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BajaSkis
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Skateboarding took charge of their industry, and developed ways for top pros to get paid for life. It took decades of community building to create the conditions that made it possible.

There are independent companies and events in skiing working in the same way, but the community's not at the point where they can run shit. With less history and accessibility than skateboarding, maybe it won't happen for skiing.
Jul 20 2021 10:07AM
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armchair_skier
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switchlip2OP needs to wear his helmet

Don’t need to wear a helmet if there’s nothing in your head worth protecting
Jul 20 2021 1:22PM
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SuspiciousFish
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Vincent.CrudoBut like you do have a point and I think its because it's inherently more fun to swerve and do safe tricks than literally cripple yourself trying to be big and gnarly.That being said I made a thread about this a while ago and people showed me some movies where people still go big, it's not the focus of the sport atm but there are still people doing it for sure


The last two Stept movies were literally a case study on how mentally and physically fucked it is to chase the progression of Street Skiing to dangerous levels. I actually gave away my copy of Mutiny because I couldn't bring myself to enjoy it.
Jul 20 2021 3:18PM
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Skibumsmith
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NoSkillsCrewalso the amount of people going buck wild huge in the bc right now is higher than I ever remember it being.

Lots of kids sending it right now but I have yet to hear of any up and comers going as big as Seth, Pep, Ager, Wilson... where going in their prime. Skiing got soft. And I blame instagram influencers.
Jul 20 2021 3:44PM
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Chrischi69
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I think we should wear speedsuits so we can go faster🤔🤔
Jul 20 2021 4:21PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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SkibumsmithLots of kids sending it right now but I have yet to hear of any up and comers going as big as Seth, Pep, Ager, Wilson... where going in their prime. Skiing got soft. And I blame instagram influencers.


we ended up at a point where that became base jumping, that's why it changed. People went bigger than them, but past a certain point you can't land. Plus didn't we have someone this year go as big as sethmo on a backie and stomp, Tanner Bourdeau I believe
Jul 20 2021 5:44PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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BigPurpleSkiSuitwe ended up at a point where that became base jumping, that's why it changed. People went bigger than them, but past a certain point you can't land. Plus didn't we have someone this year go as big as sethmo on a backie and stomp, Tanner Bourdeau I believe


https://www.instagram.com/p/CLsoqkTlBud/?utm_medium=copy_link
Jul 20 2021 5:49PM
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dant02
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SkibumsmithLots of kids sending it right now but I have yet to hear of any up and comers going as big as Seth, Pep, Ager, Wilson... where going in their prime. Skiing got soft. And I blame instagram influencers.

Cole Richardson maybe?
Jul 20 2021 5:58PM
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dant02
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I think the sendy/non sendy thing is like a pendulum. Skiers like candide and Simon dumont went as big as they possibly could at the consequence of their physical health. Then we saw the emergence of style as we know it today with skiers like casabon or even wallisch. Then we went really far one way with stept and winches in urban skiing, etc. Then we saw people doing silly little turns on benches. But, I think that era is passing and people are incorporating elements of that into their skiing. Just like how tophaloaf isn’t all over your insta feed, but Oscar weary is. I think people are slowly moving away from super swervy skiing towards going big again. Just like how backcountry skiing is the newest trend
Jul 20 2021 6:05PM
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vibe.crudo
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SuspiciousFishThe last two Stept movies were literally a case study on how mentally and physically fucked it is to chase the progression of Street Skiing to dangerous levels. I actually gave away my copy of Mutiny because I couldn't bring myself to enjoy it.

I remember watching Shea Flynn's part when I was like 14 vividly and that part made me decide that I didn't wanna be a professional urban skier anymore lmfao
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