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Christian_BaleI respectfully disagree with the idea that we should have reels and tiktoks (or anything similar) on NS. Personally I'm concerned that it would lead to oversaturation of content. I like the idea of rider portfolios and I think your statements about jerries is spot on. I had this idea about having an additional feed for videos (in addition to Latest & Top rated) where it's only videos from people who you're friends with. I feel like that could be a good use of the underutilized Friends feature. and of course it would be nice if there was a better way to search for edits, but i know that this has been discussed before

TOAST.Eh maybe. If this would ever happen I would hope that full edits would be kept separate. I'm not scrolling through bullshit to find decent edits. Honestly hate watching skiing on IG beside individual WTF clips.

TOAST.Eh maybe. If this would ever happen I would hope that full edits would be kept separate. I'm not scrolling through bullshit to find decent edits. Honestly hate watching skiing on IG beside individual WTF clips.

Dr.ZorkoThese are good ideas that would definitely modernize the NS app with today's standards. With the way the app is currently built however, what you propose would mean shooting our app in the back of the head and starting all over. It's a huge project. When we originally built it, we made due with about 5% of the funding we actually needed to build a proper app. So what we have is a copy of the mobile website with an app feel, via a service called GoNative. Think of it as a Chrome window in a nicer packaging and push notifications. Our current parent company has no interest in investing in our tech so we maintain the site and app as best as we can with our allotted resources. Unfortunately, this means little new feature development until we either get new a parent company that wants to invest in the future of NS, or until our team can buy NS from the current owners and invest in it ourselves (though they also made clear they have no interest in selling NS as an individual property). In the end, this ain't happening for some time unless TRVP finds a shortcut with our existing setup.
We do appreciate the input though, this would be a sick new version and use for the app.

asparagusAlso if NS worked in certain ways that benifited/brought more attention to creators I can easily see the bulk of ski content and viewership moving back to newschoolers. The problem is that the amount of clout/benifits someone gets, especially a pro gets from an instagram post vs a newschoolers post is problematic. The more content on NS = more people on NS = more benefits to using the site = more content and it loops. Not sure what needs to be done but I would love newschoolers to get huge like I hear it was in the past.

Dr.ZorkoThese are good ideas that would definitely modernize the NS app with today's standards. With the way the app is currently built however, what you propose would mean shooting our app in the back of the head and starting all over. It's a huge project. When we originally built it, we made due with about 5% of the funding we actually needed to build a proper app. So what we have is a copy of the mobile website with an app feel, via a service called GoNative. Think of it as a Chrome window in a nicer packaging and push notifications. Our current parent company has no interest in investing in our tech so we maintain the site and app as best as we can with our allotted resources. Unfortunately, this means little new feature development until we either get new a parent company that wants to invest in the future of NS, or until our team can buy NS from the current owners and invest in it ourselves (though they also made clear they have no interest in selling NS as an individual property). In the end, this ain't happening for some time unless TRVP finds a shortcut with our existing setup.
We do appreciate the input though, this would be a sick new version and use for the app.

Dr.ZorkoThese are good ideas that would definitely modernize the NS app with today's standards. With the way the app is currently built however, what you propose would mean shooting our app in the back of the head and starting all over. It's a huge project. When we originally built it, we made due with about 5% of the funding we actually needed to build a proper app. So what we have is a copy of the mobile website with an app feel, via a service called GoNative. Think of it as a Chrome window in a nicer packaging and push notifications. Our current parent company has no interest in investing in our tech so we maintain the site and app as best as we can with our allotted resources. Unfortunately, this means little new feature development until we either get new a parent company that wants to invest in the future of NS, or until our team can buy NS from the current owners and invest in it ourselves (though they also made clear they have no interest in selling NS as an individual property). In the end, this ain't happening for some time unless TRVP finds a shortcut with our existing setup.
We do appreciate the input though, this would be a sick new version and use for the app.

weastcoastHonestly not a bad idea. I like the idea of NS being a staple for longer length videos though. But it could work forsure.

X_ANKILLAI totally understand bruh. Code is Code. And Code takes Effort and Time.

All I can say is tho, Legendary Shit is done without pay. That's where the True Passion shines through. Regardless Appreciate you givin your Input.

eheathI miss the days of having to watch a ski movie to see a trick.

I don't think changing NS is the right move, just as you said chris, people don't post edits anymore. Fuck instagram, fuck watching one clip at a time, make an edit. People who like skiing will watch an edit but y'all keep giving them clips on instagram. NS isn't the problem here, its the way people choose to consume their content, NS hasn't change what they do, people changed what they do.

NS has promoted the website through the app and social media for years, it didn't do much tbh, we get some good traffic for comp results or some breaking news, but post a dope edit from the community and nobody cares 🤷‍♂️

skeirmanI feel like there are a lot of good ideas I've seen floated out there about how to revive this slowly dying website. From what I gather though, the site is driven exclusively by sponsors who provide just enough to maintain the site status quo. There seems to be zero interest in exploring any idea that could improve things or drive new members here. The site is at homeostasis pointing slightly down.

Merch? OMG its too expensive.
Stickers even? OMG too expensive.
FWT coverage? OMG we don't have the resources.
Any coverage at all of non-freestyle skiing events? No.
Improvements to the app? OMG its too expensive.
Anything? OMG its too expensive.

eheathYou can start something without money but if you want to scale and have no sustainability, you will fail.

X_ANKILLAWow what a Dead perspective on NS. I'm sorry you refuse to adapt to new technology and new cultural norms as a result. That's awful that you cling to a failing method. Shit. I guess we'll just bury you with NS then...

X_ANKILLAMan you're just so Negative and Sad. It must be terrifying to live your life looking at the world like this.

eheathWhat do you propose NS does? Because NS cant just become instagram, thats not only not possible but its a terrible business decision. NS is a media platform with a forum attached to it, the forum will die at some point, but news/videos/etc will likely be the bulk of viewership, statements like these make its very clear that you and most people have no idea how NS operates and what it takes to even keep the ship afloat.

eheathI'd rather be negative and aware than ignorant and optimistic.

X_ANKILLAWow what a Dead perspective on NS. I'm sorry you refuse to adapt to new technology and new cultural norms as a result. That's awful that you cling to a failing method. Shit. I guess we'll just bury you with NS then...

X_ANKILLAI'm sorry you've failed a patron of your site. As a patron I should know what NS is, therefore, I as a patron can use it fully and Effectively. But apparently I thought NS was Cooler and more Capable than it actually is...MY BAD.

r00kieGotta say, I'm with ya on this one. Can't just sit back and watch the world go by. Adapt to the changing market or be left behind, which unforunatly the parent company and apparently eheath are cool with. Someone floated the idea of being inclusive to snowboarders and their community awhile ago which would be a good start IMO since the cultures feed off of each other anyway and would require little to no capital investment to do. The ns ig page also used to feature the top rated member clips each week which I would imagined helped to push taffic to the site. Just got to keep pushing forward.

eheathWould also love to hear your plan for NS to overtake social media.

Also, I don't work for NS, again I am not associated with NS. I can't believe I have to repeat this so many times.

eheathI asked you a pretty basic question, why didn't you answer? Also, this isn't 'my' site, I am not affiliated with NS in any way other than being a moderator.

What do you think NS could do to make it cooler and more capable? I'd love to hear your business plan, even though you don't seem like much of a business man.

eheathWould also love to hear your plan for NS to overtake social media.

Also, I don't work for NS, again I am not associated with NS. I can't believe I have to repeat this so many times.

X_ANKILLAHahahaaha I didn't even know that. Why you swingin Dick like you Somebody then hahaha GTFO hahaha

X_ANKILLAI already explained my Idea ya dummy. Did you Not Read the Post that started this thread???

I'm a Visionary. Money is just a Consequence.

r00kieI mean I put a couple ideas in there did I not? Don't understand why you get in such a wad every time someone says 'hey maybe this could be better.' No one is saying we're going to take the facebook empire here, just maybe do more than watch the ship sink.

X_ANKILLAI totally understand bruh. Code is Code. And Code takes Effort and Time.

All I can say is tho, Legendary Shit is done without pay. That's where the True Passion shines through. Regardless Appreciate you givin your Input.

eheathIncluding snowboarders is not a solution dude.

eheathI love NS dude, people misunderstand my posts as negative when I'm just real, I know quite abit about it all so I try to inform people, but it always turns into "omg eheath is so negative omg" Idk why i even post anymore

This is the inherent problem with your ideas, money is everything, nobody just does shit for free, it fails every time.

Also, NS is owned by a corporation and until that changes I wouldn't expect any sort of significant changes.

TOAST.Can you really blame them for not putting a ton of their own time into something they have no ownership of?

Really dont think people are going to download a separate app just to scroll thru the "instagram" of that specific sport

Also side note, great edits cant truly be appreciated on a phone screen.

r00kieMore of an idea than anything you have proposed.

X_ANKILLAYour "REALNESS" is Sufficating.

Money is the Consequence boi. You just don't Understand how to Hustle. The Hustle isn't PAID. But the Result of the Hustle IS.

Get ya Weight up boi.

BradFiAusNzCoCaI honestly think the power of NS is in the forums. I was a lurker before I used the forums. I would argue that they are what really engage people. Plus, NS is a treasure trove of information on products and advice.

I mean look at what Reddit is able to do with their forum style setup. I think if you can capitalize on that, it would be a game changer.


On the surface, I would think that younger kids don’t use forums but being on here and engaging with people has proven that theory wrong. People still want to engage with people with similar interests, regardless of age.

But I mean this is all effectively a Moot point seeing as the ownership of NS has decided not to move the dial forward

eheathYou're so clueless dude, its fine though, again i never really took you for a business man.

eheathIts a bad idea because
1. the parent company already owns a snowboarding brand, why would they interfier with that?
2. the first snowboard post NS puts everyone would lose their minds
3. continued promotion of snowbaording would likely cause skiers to stop following/going on NS and no snowboarders would follow/go to NS.

NS is a skiing brand, the member clips was my idea that I executed for years, it had no effect on our traffic, we did it to hype up the community.

eheathForums are dying, reddit is really the only exception. NS forum traffic has steadily declined since social media became a thing, it gets worse every year. Forums are a product of computers, not phones. We made an app, nobody cared, we spam social media trying to get people to go to NS, didn't work.

I think your idea of "moving the dial forward" is a bit misguided, what do you think NS should do to dial it forward?

eheathI think your idea of "moving the dial forward" is a bit misguided, what do you think NS should do to dial it forward?

eheathForums are dying, reddit is really the only exception.

r00kieFirst point is valid but the other two are an assumption that is really based on nothing. A lot of members on here do both sports anyway and I think everyone at least appreciates both. Idk, just sad when ever literally idea is floated the red names have to drop have to drop parent company explaination and other old timers trash any ideas without actually giving amy consideration. I get it, not everything is possible but not everything is impossible either.