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I am looking four a good big mountain/pow ski. And I can’t decide between these two, I ride pretty aggressively and love butters + I’m on the East Coast if that makes any difference
these two skis have some significant differences - so perhaps a bit of an odd pair to narrow it down to :)
if you look at the pictures above you'll see that there are more differences than similarities between those two skis - wrt flex pattern, mount point, taper, rocker lines - as I am sure you are aware.
FR115 is more of a directional big arcs type of ski across most conditions and should be sweet if you like to lay on edge, while Revolts are more playful, conducive to butters and prefer a more centered stance.
Blister's reviews of said skis should sum them up nicely.
I dunno, you probably can't go wrong with either as long as you pick the one that compliments your skiing style the best - aka if you want to drive the skis through the front of the skis or prefer a more centered stance, and how stiff a ski you want.
The playful charger pow ski segment is pretty crowded with awesome offerings, so finding a suitable ski should be doable. Other skis you can consider are ON3P Jeffrey116s, Moment Wildcats, Rossignol BlackOps Gamer or even K2 Reckoner 112 if you decide that something a bit narrower (relatively speaking) will do. It should be possible to find most of them discounted or used this time of year. All are great skis.
If you haven't checked it out then Blister Buyer's Guide could be worth a read - lots of good information.
kid-kapowthese two skis have some significant differences - so perhaps a bit of an odd pair to narrow it down to :)
if you look at the pictures above you'll see that there are more differences than similarities between those two skis - wrt flex pattern, mount point, taper, rocker lines - as I am sure you are aware.
FR115 is more of a directional big arcs type of ski across most conditions and should be sweet if you like to lay on edge, while Revolts are more playful, conducive to butters and prefer a more centered stance.
Blister's reviews of said skis should sum them up nicely.
I dunno, you probably can't go wrong with either as long as you pick the one that compliments your skiing style the best - aka if you want to drive the skis through the front of the skis or prefer a more centered stance, and how stiff a ski you want.
The playful charger pow ski segment is pretty crowded with awesome offerings, so finding a suitable ski should be doable. Other skis you can consider are ON3P Jeffrey116s, Moment Wildcats, Rossignol BlackOps Gamer or even K2 Reckoner 112 if you decide that something a bit narrower (relatively speaking) will do. It should be possible to find most of them discounted or used this time of year. All are great skis.
If you haven't checked it out then Blister Buyer's Guide could be worth a read - lots of good information.
Great comment, but dayum where did you get those photos from? That's some good spec info and I want to see more skis laid out like that.
just type "skitest" after the brand+model in Google and you'll see if the Norwegian magazine FriFlyt has mad a graphic like the two depicted above concerning the ski model you are wondering about.
The written portion of their tests is absolutely worthless for the most part, but these graphic representations are really quite useful imho. I get a lot out of them at least - if you've skied for a while you can pretty much figure out 80-90% how a ski is gonna ski based on them , and more so if you cross reference the info with written reviews like Blister and videos like SkiEssentials. Happy times.
but if i were you i would consider the revolt 104 and whatever fischer is in thag width range.
a 120 mm ski isnt gonna be much fun to toss around on groomers/hardpack.
my brother has revolt 104s and he loves them everywhere on the mountain including park.
In my experience you have just as much fun in pow with a 95-105 width ski as you do with wider skis.
getting that flotation going in deep powder is overrated. Its not some sort of buddha majesty. Its not like skiing deep powder on revolt 95s isnt fun. In some ways its even more fun to sink into the powder.
DolansLebensraumI think you cant go wrong with either op.
but if i were you i would consider the revolt 104 and whatever fischer is in thag width range.
a 120 mm ski isnt gonna be much fun to toss around on groomers/hardpack.
my brother has revolt 104s and he loves them everywhere on the mountain including park.
In my experience you have just as much fun in pow with a 95-105 width ski as you do with wider skis.
getting that flotation going in deep powder is overrated. Its not some sort of buddha majesty. Its not like skiing deep powder on revolt 95s isnt fun. In some ways its even more fun to sink into the powder.
I can vouch for the revolt 104, it's good on groomers, and a very good ski for off-piste, and has an excellent topsheet as an added bonus.
DolansLebensraumI think you cant go wrong with either op.
but if i were you i would consider the revolt 104 and whatever fischer is in thag width range.
a 120 mm ski isnt gonna be much fun to toss around on groomers/hardpack.
my brother has revolt 104s and he loves them everywhere on the mountain including park.
In my experience you have just as much fun in pow with a 95-105 width ski as you do with wider skis.
getting that flotation going in deep powder is overrated. Its not some sort of buddha majesty. Its not like skiing deep powder on revolt 95s isnt fun. In some ways its even more fun to sink into the powder.
Yup I skied all my deepest days on revolt 95s. While not ideal, it's not like its not a blast. I had so much fun and yes under 100 understood is pussy shit but so is saying no to skiing pow just because your only skis are park skis.
DolansLebensraumI think you cant go wrong with either op.
but if i were you i would consider the revolt 104 and whatever fischer is in thag width range.
a 120 mm ski isnt gonna be much fun to toss around on groomers/hardpack.
my brother has revolt 104s and he loves them everywhere on the mountain including park.
In my experience you have just as much fun in pow with a 95-105 width ski as you do with wider skis.
getting that flotation going in deep powder is overrated. Its not some sort of buddha majesty. Its not like skiing deep powder on revolt 95s isnt fun. In some ways its even more fun to sink into the powder.
Yup I skied all my deepest days on revolt 95s. While not ideal, it's not like its not a blast. I had so much fun and yes under 100 understood is pussy shit but so is saying no to skiing pow just because your only skis are park skis.
I dunno guys - answering the question at hand within its parameters is always good form.
I am not saying that either 95mm or 104mm Revolts will not be fun in soft snow, or that having fun on narrower skis in deep snow - aka skis that are "in" deep snow rather "on top of" said deep fluff - cannot be fun. Hell, most skis outside of dedicated piste zoomers with long effective edges, zero taper and lots of camber will be fun on a pow day. But, will they be as fun for your average skier as a dedicated wider ski provided you can have a wider ski in the quiver? Probably not.
Especially R104s is a pretty versatile design that for the right skier - read better than average skier that also preferably is an ex park rat that is used to (nearly) center mounted skis - can do very well on them across a lot of conditions. One thing they are not though is a big mountain / pow ski. Like at all. That holds true even if you do not have experience on anything wider or find that your pair of R104s works well in deeper snow.
Luckily though there are still a lot of skis that do really well across a lot of conditions in the 10x-range, and work for a broader range of skiers than what is a wider park ski. ON3Ps Jeffrey 108, Dynastar's MF108, Moment's Wildcat108 and Deathwish112, as well as Reckoner112 are all skis in the 108 to 112mm range that both do well in low snow areas and that do really, really well on a pow day or as a dedicated pow ski in low snow areas. All can charge pretty well, depending if you prefer to ski from a more centered stance (J108s) to a bit more forward leaning (W108s - with the others falling somewhere between - read Blister's Buyers Guide).
Skis like Fischer Ranger 102 FRs are also really versatile, even if you need to be a better than average skier to call them jibby. Yes, something like R104s or Ranger102s is a great one ski quiver, but if you already have something narrower then getting something slightly wider will arguably make for an even better setup.
So if you live in a low snow area out east then perhaps a something in the 105-115mm range will be a better fit than 115+. It more likely than not can be used across more conditions. Going for a sub 105mm center mounted ski could be correct also, but then you have taken a big step away from anything that can be considered a big mountain or pow ski - which of course is fine also.
snowmosexualWhy do you want a full fat ski on the east?
Why not. But for I have no idea I’ve always ridden twins all mountain and park, but I have never a real “all mountain” ski I’ve now decided on the revolt 104
