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Tail butter technique - how to weight the tail of the ski

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sheddd
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I managed to learn how to weight my tips some this year and was very pleased to be able to do some peanut butter 180’s when things went well…

But I can’t seem to put a lot of power into the tails of any ski I have…

I don’t know how others do it; are you using your tibialis anterior to prevent toe bang (i.e. will training this like crazy help)? Or can you just happily lean way back in your boots? Any tips?

I don't know if my problem is my brain, my body, my boots (dalbello kr2) or other. I'm pretty unstable when just trying to ride the tails; I'm weak in that position and it hurts my toes. Thanks!

**This thread was edited on May 2nd 2021 at 9:28:18am
May 2 2021 9:27AM
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Mdkeator
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The way I do it, I push my torso back to keep all my weight pretty close to the tails of my skis and then do half an Ollie. So I lift up with my knees and push my heels forward so I’m not relying on just my weight to flex the ski.
May 2 2021 10:28AM
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bbw.enthusiast
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jesus christ just lean back kook
May 2 2021 1:50PM
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freestyler540
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Pre pop, then tail butter to remove some of that stress off the shins
May 2 2021 1:54PM
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sheddd
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lilpremejesus christ just lean back kook


I've tried; obviously not enough :). When I try to torque back on the skis my mind fights me because it hurts (pushes toes into the front of a tight boot). Terrible technique probably doesn't help; just looking for ideas to speed up the learning.
May 2 2021 9:33PM
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weastcoat
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Honestly it does wonders if you just have softer skis. I can guarantee you you won’t have this issue if you had Vishnus or something, no ski has softer tails than those.
May 2 2021 10:58PM
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dolanslebensraum
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Step one: buy on3ps
May 2 2021 11:02PM
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skiP.E.I.
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If your boots fit right, there shouldn't be any foot problems doing butters. I just throw most of my weight onto the tails.
The best thing to do is experiment. Start by doing tail taps and manuals everywhere, even ollies on flat ground and dropping your tails down first. Then pop 180s off your tails. At this point you will be starting to get a good feel for how the tails of your skis flex and how to use that to butter.
May 3 2021 10:26AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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get full tilts
May 3 2021 11:47AM
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SavageBiff
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just Lean back?!?! I must be doing something wrong but it works and I can flex some pretty stiff skis

pop
Heavily engage core while pressing tails down and simultaneously pulling your knees up(basically try to v sit up )
then pop off that flex and spin, shifty whatever
May 3 2021 7:53PM
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ASAPCarter
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You def should see a bootfitter if your feet are moving that much
May 4 2021 1:49AM
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Andi_G
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too much butter make me a fat boy
May 12 2022 11:52AM
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yavone
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love the bot bumps
May 12 2022 12:54PM
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tutipups
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you make leaning back look hard
May 12 2022 7:02PM
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