How To Learn To Cross Your Skis Midair?

I am an inflexible bastard so I think stretching can help alot for grabs. Also some rotations and tricks make it easier to get your body in position to grab and hold it

If you can pull your ski off with your hand I'd say you need to crank those dins up.

yeah crank up your dins if youre trynna tweak, shop set mine at 7 and I ripped my ski right off first mute grab of the season, bumped it up to 8 no problems

Thanks for the tips! I'm gonna try stretching and also cranking my dins up.

Should I be able to cross my skis without any grab (iron cross) or is this considered more "advanced" than say a mute grab?

**This post was edited on Mar 8th 2021 at 6:11:18pm

FouDuVillageThanks for the tips! I'm gonna try stretching and also cranking my dins up.

Should I be able to cross my skis without any grab (iron cross) or is this considered more "advanced" than say a mute grab?

**This post was edited on Mar 8th 2021 at 6:11:18pm

In a mute grab, my hand helps me cross them. In a blunt, you have to actually move your legs to cross them well. Also the rotation and whether I'm doing lead/trailing affects how easy or hard it is too.

I'm just wondering what steps I should aim. Example :
1. Cross Skis midair (Plough Style)
2. Iron Cross
3. Mute Grab
4. Venom Grab
Etc.

Do you think I should focus on crossing skis in a 360 before trying in a simple "air"?

ReturnToMonkeyIn a mute grab, my hand helps me cross them. In a blunt, you have to actually move your legs to cross them well. Also the rotation and whether I'm doing lead/trailing affects how easy or hard it is too.

FouDuVillageDo you think I should focus on crossing skis in a 360 before trying in a simple "air"?

Eh, I learned basically both at the same time. Like on the small jump I'd straight air and try to get the grab and then the next bigger jump do a 3 with the same grab. Then you sort of get the feel for it with different kinds of easy sets

Feels like you're making it more complicated for yourself than you need to

I’m not super flexible and I’m whatever the opposite of being pigeon toed is called, so a lot of that crossing action and tweaking comes just from my hand pulling the ski to where I want it. For me it also helps to really bend my knees/pull my legs back behind me, depending on the grab. Sounds like you’re really overthinking it. Just tighten those fins as others have said, and just tweak harder.

Yeeeeah, you might be right. I think I should just start by thightening my dins and tweak my grab. I'll see if it works. Thanks!

Cross your skis first, then grab. Just point your toes inward as if doing a snowplow. You may have to lift one foot slightly higher than the other.

grab your mute and really pull on that hand and twist your knees in. Tweaking mutes is hella easy if you commit to the pull and let your grabbed ski touch your other boot.

i have never seen somebody overcomplicate grabs so much. you just do em

I think grabs come at a different pace for everyone, for example I learned tail and blunt super early and yet I still have a hard time doing straight airs grabbing safety. Stretching helps and I've seen a few people at the top of the park practicing while laying on their backs... something off youtube i guess, maybe give that a try!

UPDATE

Apparently, I cannot tight my binding any harder than they are right now.

Nevertheless, I first tried to do a Mute grab to be able to cross my skis.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/996754/Trying-to-do-a-mute
Sometimes it kinda work (the camera angle helps thinking the mute is ok but in reality there's like only a 45 degrees angle between them). Sometimes, my ski goes off. As you can see, only one of my ski seems to "turn inward". I'm not able to turn the "ungripped ski" inward.

So... Well... I thought that maybe by pulling my both skis apart, I could achieve to cross my skis at an angle closer to 90 degrees.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/996755/Venom
It kinda worked, but you know... I would like to be able to cross my skis without having to pull off a Venom Grab.

So I decided to add rotation. Maybe it could help?

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/996756/360-MuteIt seems I have the same problems as when I'm not spinning. One thing though, is that I realized that I'm not constant in my left boot placement. Sometimes, my boot goes over the binding. Sometimes, my boot goes over the other boot. And sometimes, my boot goes just waaay higher (like in the video). I'm not sure what's the best "boot position" in a mute, but I thought that going just right over the other boot looked promising.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/996757/360-Mute--boots-are-closer-
And yeah. It kinda worked! So having in mind that my boot has to go over the other boot and also that my grip must be closer to the binding (otherwise my ski just falls), I decided to try it without spinning.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/996758/Mute--but-better-I think my mute grab improved! So having all of this in mind, I tried to do an Iron Cross.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/996759/Iron-CrossOh my. It worked.



So basically, if anyone has the same problem as me, I think that (even if it's totally obvious for some), it's really important to put your foot over your other foot (not over the tip of the ski, not over the binding, not over your leg and not over your knee). Also, it's important to spread your legs a bit when you're launching off the jump. This way, it's easier to cross your skis and place your feet.



So that's it. Overall, my mute grab still needs improvements and my ski is still going off half of the time, but I think I'm going the right way.

100% your problem is the tiny ass jump lol. You can't really get any grab good with less than a second of air time no matter who you are. Most of those seemed fine actually and when you take it to a bigger jump you'll have no issue. If you're still ripping your skis off, maybe pull less hard and just try to get more flexible and make those leg/hip muscles stronger. How are your boots? Are they super worn down at the toe and heel? That could be a cause for your bindings releasing even at 10 din.

Oh I misread what you said. Yeah seems like you've got it figured out. Simplifying it to putting your foot over the other one is a good way of describing it. Sometimes it takes the beginner (to a certain skill, in this case mute grabs) figuring it out on their own to come up with the best way to teach something. Well done!

fuck i’m on 11. prolly worn out tho

pinkcamo1000yeah crank up your dins if youre trynna tweak, shop set mine at 7 and I ripped my ski right off first mute grab of the season, bumped it up to 8 no problems