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SofaKingSickyou're probably just overthinking it and/or haven't given yourself ample time to get used to things and develop your style. are you new-ish to park? what don't you like when you watch your clips? posting videos would def help
BraybladeIm new to park but I've been doing the same tricks for a few seasons now and haven't really progressed because I want to improve the tricks I can already do before trying something new. Maybe I should just say fuck it and try some future spins?
BraybladeI have a pretty small trick bag and recently have been working on adding more style to my 3's and 5's but every clip that I get just makes me hate how I ski. I started to add grabs to my spins and it helped a bit but I always find something about a clip that I don't like. I watch skiers with style that I like and take inspiration from my homies that ski with me but at the end of the day I cant find a way to get to where I want to be. Does everyone hate their own style or am I just overthinking it?
SofaKingSickhmm that second one didn't look bad at all dude, you're definitely getting there
can you make or find a bigger jump? i feel like you might be having some residual bad habits on your 3s because you learned them on a really small jump. that's fine but 3s are kind of funny in that a tiny one is kinda quite different from a normal or big one. now that you have done them, try them on a bigger jump that lets you take your time with the spin. you won't be rushing to get the spin around or leaning back to get through it, and then you have the time to tone down the unnecessary movements and reach down for a grab. don't even need to wind up, just start the spin with your core (flexed) and your shoulders and hips and you can start reaching down for a grab almost immediately if you want. you can decide whether carving into it feels better or worse to you
BraybladeI've tried a few on bigger jumps but I still have the issue with my arms, any tips on how to get them down? I've heard using poles helps but I already learned my bad habits with poles. Never really thought to engage my core haha thanks for the tip!
SofaKingSickdefinitely remember to flex your core. when you're doing something demanding in skiing, you should be leaning forward athletically almost like you're about to tackle someone, your shins pushing against the tongues of your boots, that's the body position you want to keep control of things. does carving a tiny bit into the jump seem comfortable to you? it can help you learn that your arms never have to even leave your side on a 3 really, not for the sake of the spin. just initiate the spin with your whole body (flexed, remember) and lift your knees and feet up a little and reach down a little for a grab. your grabbing hand is reaching down and your other hand can do whatever it wants for the time being. i think that should help cut down the arm movements
seriously though that second one looked pretty good dude. just keep doing them and you'll feel more and more comfortable on them and other tricks
GrandThingsBro what, these clips are fire. Love how slow the rotation on the second one was especially.
GrandThingsBro what, these clips are fire. Love how slow the rotation on the second one was especially.
Braybladecarving definitely helps, I feel more in control on the takeoff than I do spinning flat. I appreciate the hype man! My home resort is looking really good now so ill try to get some clips this weekend and post an update to the thread.
evanballSecond one was v clean. Keeping your skis together in the air would add approximately 5 style points, instead of the shoulder-width stance you’re rocking here.
BraybladeThat’s what I think too, does carving help? If not are there any tricks to it? Do I just try to bring my skis together?
SuspiciousFishHere are a couple of points:
In regard to the clips you posted I did notice something on the second clip you are going to want to correct. When you set your rotation your eyes are down (00:06) causing you to spin off axis. When you do a 360 always make sure to keep you eyes and head level and that will keep you on axis and clean up your rotation. Even when you land you should be looking at the horizon and use your peripheral vision to spot the landing. I think that is also why your arms are kind of wonky because your fighting to get back on axis to land.
Here is a good exercise for this- Stair Jumps. Find a set of stairs and jump up them 2 or 3 at a time and focus on keeping your eyes level and straight ahead. Your natural reaction will be to try to look down to see the stair you are landing on so you need to force yourself to keep those eyes up and use your peripheral vision to land on the stair. Once you train your eyes this way it will be more natural to do it skiing. Also do a bunch of 180s and 360s in your bedroom or wherever and focus on keeping your core engaged and your eyes level each time. I actually like to do a warmup lap or two on the groomers and focus only on keeping my eyes up, core stacked and other mechanics to get set for the day.
For the record, I could not land 360s to save my life until I joined CUFST and the coaches taught me the above and it was night and day difference.
As for style. Please whatever you do dont try to "Have Style". You will look goofy as hell and your skiing will look forced and it will teach you bad mechanics. All style comes from your unique body type reacting to proper form. Style also comes from comfort and the more time you spend in the air on tramps and diving boards etc the more your body will get used to floating in free space and it will clean up your jumps.
BraybladeI don’t like that my arms go up every time I spin, I’ve tried a few tricks to fix em but nothing really works. My feet also go into a V when I’m spinning and im working on getting them to go straight. When I work on one issue the other one gets worse.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/994869/trim-604EBF69-A8F6-4B76-8EF3-B09B2D6DC89B-MOV
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/994870/trim-A83CB716-EE34-4239-BC1C-8B71CC7C4EC4-MOV
FruitBootProYour style is smooth asf, if it really bothers you then focus on loosening up your shoulders and arms before every trick as well as keeping your knees bent low. For me your clips were super satisfying to watch and I'm generally pretty critical of style. I've heard that almost everyone hates watching themselves ski/skate/etc. so i wouldn't sweat it.
btw your afterbang is really good, you really be shoving your hands down the moment you hit the ground.
**This post was edited on Feb 24th 2021 at 4:25:38pm
grantn_Just get pants two sizes too big for u
IdahoeWhen T Hall was on the bombhole podcast he talked about how baggy shit looks objectively better cuz it hides all the flaws in your riding
also I think everyone thinks their style could be wayyyy better, I certainly do most of the time
TreegrabberThrow on some pit vipers and your swag will increase tenfold
TreegrabberThrow on some pit vipers and your swag will increase tenfold
BraybladeI've tried a few on bigger jumps but I still have the issue with my arms, any tips on how to get them down? I've heard using poles helps but I already learned my bad habits with poles. Never really thought to engage my core haha thanks for the tip!
dan38Everyone hates “their” style. It looks fine my dude. The more you do it the more comfortable you’ll get with it the more relaxed you’ll be in the air the easier it’ll look.
BraybladeI have a pretty small trick bag and recently have been working on adding more style to my 3's and 5's but every clip that I get just makes me hate how I ski. I started to add grabs to my spins and it helped a bit but I always find something about a clip that I don't like. I watch skiers with style that I like and take inspiration from my homies that ski with me but at the end of the day I cant find a way to get to where I want to be. Does everyone hate their own style or am I just overthinking it?