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Can you disaster a rail without kinks or a gap before the rail?

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tominiemenmaa
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Long time lurker, first time poster here.

If I hit a straight rail with so much speed I gap the first 4 or 5 meters of a 6m down rail, is it a disaster? If it isn't a disaster, then what it is called?

Discuss.
Feb 24 2021 7:37AM
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snowfinder
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first time poster... but I see you have 4 post...
Feb 24 2021 7:38AM
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tominiemenmaa
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Magic! I presume the counter counts comments as well.
Feb 24 2021 7:42AM
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PissWizard69
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Yeah i think as long as you gap most of the rail and slide the last couple feet of it it is considered a disaster
Feb 24 2021 8:15AM
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tominiemenmaa
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PissWizard69Yeah i think as long as you gap most of the rail and slide the last couple feet of it it is considered a disaster


That's my opinion as well but two of my snowboarder friends (40 or so years on board combined) were very strict about this and said the rail needs to be kinked or a big gap between the kicker and the rail.

Makes no sense to me but this is why I'm asking you guys :)

**This post was edited on Feb 24th 2021 at 8:19:39am
Feb 24 2021 8:18AM
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WoFlowz
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I personally feel like you can but it can’t be ohhh I gapped like 3ft down the rail it’s gotta be the majority of the rail
Feb 24 2021 8:35AM
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PissWizard69
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WoFlowzI personally feel like you can but it can’t be ohhh I gapped like 3ft down the rail it’s gotta be the majority of the rail


Yeah same. Feel like you have to gap pretty much the whole thing and basically just tap the end of the rail
Feb 24 2021 9:33AM
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X_MEMESWERVE_XX
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WoFlowzI personally feel like you can but it can’t be ohhh I gapped like 3ft down the rail it’s gotta be the majority of the rail


Was gonna say the same shit, I’d say you gotta gap at least 4/6ths of the rail for it to be a disaster
Feb 24 2021 9:33AM
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TOAST.
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No. I wouldn't even consider a large gap to a rail a disaster if that is the only way to hit the rail. You gotta gap over a change in the rail (kink or drop). What you are describing is just going fast.
Feb 24 2021 9:38AM
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Julius_Steezer
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Yeah unless there’s a gap of minimum 4ft from the kicker to the rail then I think you’re just hitting a rail with speed. On the bright side though, hitting a rail with speed looks cool so you do you op
Feb 24 2021 10:51AM
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Andi_G
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Bro simplify your fractions lol

I feel like if it’s a normal down rail or something then you can’t disaster it. The trick name implies something will go super wrong if you come up short and for that you need a gap or a kink to make it dangerous. Otherwise you’re just skiing fast which is still cool but it’s not it’s own trick.
CrunnchyVanManWas gonna say the same shit, I’d say you gotta gap at least 4/6ths of the rail for it to be a disaster
Feb 24 2021 1:26PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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AndrewGravesSVBro simplify your fractions lol

I feel like if it’s a normal down rail or something then you can’t disaster it. The trick name implies something will go super wrong if you come up short and for that you need a gap or a kink to make it dangerous. Otherwise you’re just skiing fast which is still cool but it’s not it’s own trick.

I agree with your definition. However, just cus there is rail doesn't make it not dangerous. I once was doing this flat-down rail by disastering to the down, but when finally trying to hit the flat first, I crashed and hit my head pretty badly.
Feb 24 2021 1:34PM
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Holte
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No. You can't disaster anything without a kink. You can gap to rail, or you can tap, but a disaster by definition is over a kink.
Feb 24 2021 1:58PM
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X_MEMESWERVE_XX
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AndrewGravesSVBro simplify your fractions lol

Bold of you to assume I can do that
Feb 24 2021 2:07PM
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SuspiciousFish
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TOAST.No. I wouldn't even consider a large gap to a rail a disaster if that is the only way to hit the rail. You gotta gap over a change in the rail (kink or drop). What you are describing is just going fast.


I agree. Its called a "Disaster" because if you come up short you are going to be in a world of hurt. Simply going big and hitting the end of a rail doesnt count. You need to go over the sketchy part as thats the point of the trick.

Its kind of like saying, "If I hit a giant step down in the back country can I call it a road gap?"
Feb 24 2021 2:24PM
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jakeordie
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Mike Hornbeck in Sunny did like a blunt grabbed air to lip on the end of the rail, I'd call that a disaster. I don't think it's about the rail, it's about the first part of the trick making it look like you're gonna clip the rail by accident and get wrecked.
Feb 24 2021 3:07PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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no but if you gap 4-5m onto a 6m up rail then id be impressed
Feb 24 2021 3:18PM
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grantn_
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I think a disaster has to be on a kinked rail. If you have a down rail with a 5-10 foot gap I call that a gap to down.
Feb 24 2021 6:06PM
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jwilly
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If you gap onto a donkey dick then id call that a disaster for sure but not on a classic down bar
Feb 24 2021 9:55PM
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tominiemenmaa
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Ok, I think it's safe to say I was wrong and a disaster needs to have a kink or a drop feature and therefore straight rail feature can not be disastered. The discussion started from the last hit of this line; https://www.instagram.com/p/CLrcR5zBrrC/
Feb 25 2021 12:21AM
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Julius_Steezer
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tominiemenmaaOk, I think it's safe to say I was wrong and a disaster needs to have a kink or a drop feature and therefore straight rail feature can not be disastered. The discussion started from the last hit of this line; https://www.instagram.com/p/CLrcR5zBrrC/


Yeah sorry op, nice line but that last hit wasn’t a disaster. That flat down tube on one of the last hits would make for some nice disasters tho
Feb 25 2021 5:18AM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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Yeah, I think it needs to have a kink. Never really thought about it before.


Sidenote: I never realized how many Finns were on this site until I moved here
Feb 25 2021 6:34AM
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49erLew
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Disagree. 2/3 of the rail is the better number.
CrunnchyVanManWas gonna say the same shit, I’d say you gotta gap at least 4/6ths of the rail for it to be a disaster
Feb 25 2021 6:57AM
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skierman
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God damn, you kids are jackasses. If you gap kinks, you did a disaster. That's it. There's nothing more to it.

But yeah, keep on discussing the fractions of a fucking flat rail like a bunch of gapers. How about instead of making up your own trick definitions to excuse your shitty skiing, you learn how to judge speed correctly? Crazy idea, I know! This is another prime example of The Bunch ruining skiing.

"BRUH SKIING IS ART, TRICKS ARE WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO BE! NO, I DIDN'T FUCK UP AND LAND INCORRECTLY ON MY 180 BRO, IT WAS A PEANUT BUTTER PUSH BRO! PROGRESSIVE! NO, I DIDN'T FUCK UP MY SPEED AND LAND AT THE END OF THE RAIL, I WAS DOING A MASSIVELY COOL DISASTER CUZ I'M GNARLY LIKE THAT!"

This thread is full of fucking cringe. Good god.

**This post was edited on Feb 25th 2021 at 8:12:33am
Feb 25 2021 8:11AM
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snowfinder
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skiermanGod damn, you kids are jackasses. If you gap kinks, you did a disaster. That's it. There's nothing more to it.

But yeah, keep on discussing the fractions of a fucking flat rail like a bunch of gapers. How about instead of making up your own trick definitions to excuse your shitty skiing, you learn how to judge speed correctly? Crazy idea, I know! This is another prime example of The Bunch ruining skiing.

"BRUH SKIING IS ART, TRICKS ARE WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO BE! NO, I DIDN'T FUCK UP AND LAND INCORRECTLY ON MY 180 BRO, IT WAS A PEANUT BUTTER PUSH BRO! PROGRESSIVE! NO, I DIDN'T FUCK UP MY SPEED AND LAND AT THE END OF THE RAIL, I WAS DOING A MASSIVELY COOL DISASTER CUZ I'M GNARLY LIKE THAT!"

This thread is full of fucking cringe. Good god.

**This post was edited on Feb 25th 2021 at 8:12:33am


Do you yell at kids to get off your lawn?
Feb 25 2021 8:27AM
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The.Fish
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I've always treated it as if you clear a large majority of the rail it still counts. But let's get real here, we are debating over a vocab term. Gap to down or disaster, you still go big and probably crack your edges.
Feb 25 2021 8:53AM
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tominiemenmaa
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skiermanGod damn, you kids are jackasses. If you gap kinks, you did a disaster. That's it. There's nothing more to it.

But yeah, keep on discussing the fractions of a fucking flat rail like a bunch of gapers. How about instead of making up your own trick definitions to excuse your shitty skiing, you learn how to judge speed correctly? Crazy idea, I know! This is another prime example of The Bunch ruining skiing.

"BRUH SKIING IS ART, TRICKS ARE WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO BE! NO, I DIDN'T FUCK UP AND LAND INCORRECTLY ON MY 180 BRO, IT WAS A PEANUT BUTTER PUSH BRO! PROGRESSIVE! NO, I DIDN'T FUCK UP MY SPEED AND LAND AT THE END OF THE RAIL, I WAS DOING A MASSIVELY COOL DISASTER CUZ I'M GNARLY LIKE THAT!"

This thread is full of fucking cringe. Good god.

**This post was edited on Feb 25th 2021 at 8:12:33am


WTF man? Breathe a little. I asked a question and got an answer, and suddenly you come here to hyperventilate your cringe shit all over the place. 😁
Feb 25 2021 9:21AM
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X_MEMESWERVE_XX
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snowfinderDo you yell at kids to get off your lawn?





I like to think this is how skierman sits and looks at NS waiting to find something he doesn’t agree with
Feb 25 2021 9:37AM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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Wait until you meet Dolan lol
Although he’s calmed down, as of late
tominiemenmaaWTF man? Breathe a little. I asked a question and got an answer, and suddenly you come here to hyperventilate your cringe shit all over the place. 😁
Feb 25 2021 9:46AM
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skierman
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tominiemenmaaWTF man? Breathe a little. I asked a question and got an answer, and suddenly you come here to hyperventilate your cringe shit all over the place. 😁


"durrr if I gap a flat rail by 3/4ths of its overall length, did I do disaster? durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
Feb 25 2021 11:54AM
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X_MEMESWERVE_XX
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skierman"durrr if I gap a flat rail by 3/4ths of its overall length, did I do disaster? durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"


"Durrrr if I douche troll on a skiing website will people think im cool? durrrrrrrr"
Feb 25 2021 11:59AM
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tominiemenmaa
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skierman"durrr if I gap a flat rail by 3/4ths of its overall length, did I do disaster? durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"



Feb 25 2021 12:02PM
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TrickyDick470
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What I tell the girls at the bar, "I was going so fast I was pretty much disastering onto every feature in the park today."



What I actually was doing:
Feb 25 2021 12:04PM
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skierman
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TrickyDick470What I tell the girls at the bar, "I was going so fast I was pretty much disastering onto every feature in the park today."

What I actually was doing:


BRO, SICK 50-50 DISASTER!
Feb 25 2021 12:15PM
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49erLew
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The joke gapped you.

Did it do a disaster?
skiermanGod damn, you kids are jackasses. If you gap kinks, you did a disaster. That's it. There's nothing more to it.

But yeah, keep on discussing the fractions of a fucking flat rail like a bunch of gapers. How about instead of making up your own trick definitions to excuse your shitty skiing, you learn how to judge speed correctly? Crazy idea, I know! This is another prime example of The Bunch ruining skiing.

"BRUH SKIING IS ART, TRICKS ARE WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO BE! NO, I DIDN'T FUCK UP AND LAND INCORRECTLY ON MY 180 BRO, IT WAS A PEANUT BUTTER PUSH BRO! PROGRESSIVE! NO, I DIDN'T FUCK UP MY SPEED AND LAND AT THE END OF THE RAIL, I WAS DOING A MASSIVELY COOL DISASTER CUZ I'M GNARLY LIKE THAT!"

This thread is full of fucking cringe. Good god.

**This post was edited on Feb 25th 2021 at 8:12:33am
Feb 25 2021 2:43PM
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Dryd3n
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skiermanGod damn, you kids are jackasses. If you gap kinks, you did a disaster. That's it. There's nothing more to it.

But yeah, keep on discussing the fractions of a fucking flat rail like a bunch of gapers. How about instead of making up your own trick definitions to excuse your shitty skiing, you learn how to judge speed correctly? Crazy idea, I know! This is another prime example of The Bunch ruining skiing.

"BRUH SKIING IS ART, TRICKS ARE WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO BE! NO, I DIDN'T FUCK UP AND LAND INCORRECTLY ON MY 180 BRO, IT WAS A PEANUT BUTTER PUSH BRO! PROGRESSIVE! NO, I DIDN'T FUCK UP MY SPEED AND LAND AT THE END OF THE RAIL, I WAS DOING A MASSIVELY COOL DISASTER CUZ I'M GNARLY LIKE THAT!"

This thread is full of fucking cringe. Good god.

**This post was edited on Feb 25th 2021 at 8:12:33am


bro definitely slipped out after trying to gap 41/46th's of a flat rail
Mar 27 2022 11:59PM
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Casey
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Back in the day our park used to set up flat boxes and in order to make them ride on they built like pretty big wedges up to them. So if you hit them with speed you could get enough air to grab, or shifty, spin on or what ever. I’d say if you have time in the air to do something I’d count it as a disaster.
Mar 28 2022 6:50PM
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JackMeHoffXD
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tominiemenmaaLong time lurker, first time poster here.

If I hit a straight rail with so much speed I gap the first 4 or 5 meters of a 6m down rail, is it a disaster? If it isn't a disaster, then what it is called?

Discuss.


AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU ARE SO DUMB
Mar 28 2022 6:52PM
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