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WoFlowzSee a boot fitter
oldspicewalrusI don't need custom boots just ideas
apc.frTry again bud. that's literally what the boot fitter is for.
oldspicewalrusDisagree I like to have some knowledge about what skis, boots, or bindings I'm going to buy before I go to a shop and and ask for recommendations so I can compare my knowledge with theirs makes it easier for the shop and they appreciate you doing your homework.
gilbertresselLol
oldspicewalrusI don't need custom boots just ideas
oldspicewalrusDisagree I like to have some knowledge about what skis, boots, or bindings I'm going to buy before I go to a shop and and ask for recommendations so I can compare my knowledge with theirs makes it easier for the shop and they appreciate you doing your homework.
SessionYou don't know more. If you go to buy a boot with an "idea" of what you want. You are literally wasting your time going. Just buy a boot off the internet and then make another thread complaining about your boot.
oldspicewalrusI guess I need to reword the point of this forum, it was just to get a couple of names of other boots other than full tilt in order to see what I should be looking for online. I have only bought my boots online because it is a cheaper and then I bring them to a bootfitter to get fit. Hopefully this can clarify what I am trying to say.
apc.frI mean we all know what you want, but you're looking at the whole picture wrong.
I've got a narrow AF foot, med/low instep, a high arch, tiny ankles and a weird sixth toe thing on the right foot. I need a boot that fits those parameters, and that's what a boot fitter knows. He/she can look at my foot, see the anatomy, and match that to a boot shell and hopefully stock liner.
You're asking for freestyle orientated boots, but haven't mentioned anything about your foot anatomy. That's really why all you'll get for answers is "go to a boot fitter". From your posts it's obvious you don't know what you want or how to ask for it.
oldspicewalrusSo I never should have posted this in the first place?
oldspicewalrusSo I never should have posted this in the first place?
apc.frMore or less.
In a world where you live in Texas and can't make it to the mountains for a fitting, do this:
Step 1. Figure out your foot shape. Phone scanner apps, that thing they have at shoe stores, etc. Gain an understanding of the anatomy of a foot and what your foot shape is.
Step 2. Figure out your booth minimum requirements. Pretty much just flex, and if you'll be touring.
Step 3. Now post. Ask about boots that work with your foot shape and meet your minimum requirements. Include the above knowledge in your post to show you understand that foot shape is the thing that decides your boot, not whatever a freestyle boot is or isn't.
**This post was edited on Feb 23rd 2021 at 5:20:52pm
oldspicewalrusI shouldn't really have to show an understanding, that is why I asked in the first place because clearly I did not have a perfect one. Thank you for actually leaving meaningful advice this time though, a lot more productive than your previous posts.
apc.frShowing that understanding is how you skip getting reamed over needing to see a boot fitter. Asking what you asked in the gear talk forum, with where every other post on every other thread is "see a boot fitter" shows you didn't do ANYTHING up front and expected us to give you an answer you wanted. No wonder people are blowing you up. Myself included.
oldspicewalrusI asked it in ski gabber and it got moved to gear talk, jokes on you, maybe if you did ANY digging before this. Dude you really gotta relax.
apc.frOh you got me, I didn't also look at your post history before calling you out lolz.
Jong is a jong, even if this isn't tgr.
oldspicewalrusHaha I just wasted so much of your time, get shit on
oldspicewalrusDisagree I like to have some knowledge about what skis, boots, or bindings I'm going to buy before I go to a shop and and ask for recommendations so I can compare my knowledge with theirs makes it easier for the shop and they appreciate you doing your homework.
oldspicewalrusLol "Gilbert"
ColoradoDogfartok buddy, youve crossed the line. NEVER INSULT MY BOY GILBERT, NEVER
ColoradoDogfartok buddy, youve crossed the line. NEVER INSULT MY BOY GILBERT, NEVER
animatorYeah as a fitter, I’m gonna hard disagree here. There is NOTHING I despise more than people coming in and wasting my time, talking about what they THINK they know, because they read something on a forum about Boot X fits some 14 year olds skinny ass foot. If you’re going to a fitter, sit down, be fucking humble, and listen to our recommendations. Good fitters, after seeing and measuring your foot, and asking you a couple questions about what you want out of your ski boots, should be able to present 2 or 3 options that will work with minimal customization (assuming you don’t have a wild foot shape that no boot will fit). Do not, and I repeat, DO NOT, go to see a fitter and start talking about the, “homework,” you did. If you really did your homework, and know your shit, you should be able to buy your shit online and there’s no reason you need a fitter. 99% of the time, that’s not the case, you don’t know what you’re talking about, and your wasting both your time and the fitters time. Don’t be a know-it-all because that is the easiest way to make a fitter realize that you’re a fucking idiot and that they shouldn’t be helping you.
BradFiAusNzCoCaAgreed. Super annoying when I was a fitter too. Its like, I’m not going to sell you a boot that doesn’t fit because you’re going to:
1) come back and complain
2) complain to my boss
3) write a bad review
What’s even worse is when someone comes in with a FRIEND who “knows skiing/did his homework”.
animatorHad this the other day. Sold a guy a Krypton 110 because he said he was a very aggressive skier, and out of the 3 I put him in, he said it was the most comfortable boot he’s ever been in. Comes back 3 days later, hasn’t even skied, saying, “my friend who works in a shop says that 110 is too stiff, can I have something softer?” I told him that 110 is where he should be for his height and weight, if he is an aggressive skier, and he goes, “well my friend says that 110 is as stiff as a race boot and that I should be in a 90 flex.”
BradFiAusNzCoCaWell why didn’t his friend sell him ski boots then if he knew so well? Lol
This reminds me of one time when a 5’2” 130lb lady told me she couldn’t consider Marker Squires because her din was 12. She told me the rental tech put her at a 12 the week before...
If she didn’t like Squires, fair enough, but there was no way she was a 12!
animatorHad this the other day. Sold a guy a Krypton 110 because he said he was a very aggressive skier, and out of the 3 I put him in, he said it was the most comfortable boot he’s ever been in. Comes back 3 days later, hasn’t even skied, saying, “my friend who works in a shop says that 110 is too stiff, can I have something softer?” I told him that 110 is where he should be for his height and weight, if he is an aggressive skier, and he goes, “well my friend says that 110 is as stiff as a race boot and that I should be in a 90 flex.”
NotaskibumNot to hijack this thread. Is there a good way of approaching the need for a bootfitter with a budget / desire to buy online? Can I just be like 'hey, I have a budget and probably need to get boots elsewgere but I'll slip you a 20 if you help me figure out what I need'?
animatorIf you happen to know an overly-kind fitter, maybe. I know as soon as I hear the word, “online,” all of my effort goes out the window. People buying shit online only supports the conglomerate fuckheads at backcountry, REI, evo, whatever. Soon there’s gonna be no shops or reps or fitters or anything, everything is becoming more and more technology based. If you wanna buy online, suck it up and accept the risks of buying a boot that doesn’t fit. If you want someone to put in time and effort, saying, “thanks I’m gonna go buy this on backcountry.com now,” is like punching the fitter in the dick. You’re a clown if you wanna waste someone’s time, even if you think that telling them you’re gonna buy online before they fit you is gonna work. All of the fitters I know would make 0 effort or tell you to piss off if you came in and asked to be fitted so you could buy online. Touchy subject for me but people who do that are wack as fuck
animatorHad this the other day. Sold a guy a Krypton 110 because he said he was a very aggressive skier, and out of the 3 I put him in, he said it was the most comfortable boot he’s ever been in. Comes back 3 days later, hasn’t even skied, saying, “my friend who works in a shop says that 110 is too stiff, can I have something softer?” I told him that 110 is where he should be for his height and weight, if he is an aggressive skier, and he goes, “well my friend says that 110 is as stiff as a race boot and that I should be in a 90 flex.”
NotaskibumNot to hijack this thread. Is there a good way of approaching the need for a bootfitter with a budget / desire to buy online? Can I just be like 'hey, I have a budget and probably need to get boots elsewgere but I'll slip you a 20 if you help me figure out what I need'?
severniyHow do you determine correct flex? For example, I’m 178cm, 60kg, skinny, have normal range of ankle dorsiflexion and an aggressive skier. What flex rating is right for me?
