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Are these counterfeit tyrolia attacks?

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dolanslebensraum
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I kind of think they are.




https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001903847633.html?_randl_currency=USD&_randl_shipto=US&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=9594035441&albag=102695258807&trgt=374448549250&crea=en1005001903847633&netw=u&device=m&albpg=374448549250&albpd=en1005001903847633&gclid=Cj0KCQiA4L2BBhCvARIsAO0SBdYRsHqKRkVGzSKWi6PcAP2BFIg-xxVOz6n20qkWjLn9FHvg_qHHX1QaAsKWEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Feb 20 2021 12:18AM
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VT_scratch
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only one way to find out
Feb 20 2021 12:25AM
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FUUUCK
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Does tyrolia manufacturer bindings in China?
Feb 20 2021 12:27AM
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dolanslebensraum
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FUUUCKDoes tyrolia manufacturer bindings in China?


Im pretty sure they are made in austria.

either way they are def counterfeit bc tyrolia would never let some sideline route to selling attacks straight from china.

im just intrigued to see how bad these knockoffs are.

binding science isnt rocket science but i doubt its something that is easily copy engineered.
Feb 20 2021 12:52AM
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gorbdawggybrent
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review them
Feb 20 2021 1:25PM
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.Roockley.
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Does the cash saving outweigh the risks of them being counterfeit and not working to the standard?
Feb 20 2021 1:52PM
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theabortionator
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I ordered them because they came with a free bowl of orange chicken and I was hungry.
Feb 20 2021 2:10PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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.Roockley.Does the cash saving outweigh the risks of them being counterfeit and not working to the standard?


No because even if you were able to get like 3 of them and replace them easily when they break, now your ski has been mounted three times in the span of what one binding likely would've outlasted entirely. So you either risk a compromised ski on top of sketchy bindings, or you have to pay a bunch for new skis, completely countering the cost savings of the knock off bindings. You could get lucky though.
Feb 20 2021 2:39PM
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Jesushadvishnus
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I doubt they are fake, a few german shops sell attack 13s for 80 euro. I bought a pair with no problems.
Feb 20 2021 3:02PM
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Paul.
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ReturnToMonkeyNo because even if you were able to get like 3 of them and replace them easily when they break, now your ski has been mounted three times in the span of what one binding likely would've outlasted entirely. So you either risk a compromised ski on top of sketchy bindings, or you have to pay a bunch for new skis, completely countering the cost savings of the knock off bindings. You could get lucky though.


You wouldnt have to drill new holes for each remount though. Just dont strip the threads and reuse the original holes, and helicoil if the threads do get stripped
Feb 20 2021 3:08PM
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SPK_
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It's apparently sold by Decathlon in Russia. Decathlon is a legit sport seller, it's just completely unknown in NA. So if it's actually sold by them it's legit, but in the end, it's still aliexpress... And it's not unusual to find Attacks that cheap for sale on european online retailers.
Feb 20 2021 6:57PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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Paul.You wouldnt have to drill new holes for each remount though. Just dont strip the threads and reuse the original holes, and helicoil if the threads do get stripped

Yeah but if youre replacing bindings, it probably means something broke suddenly. My last pair of skis broke when the heel binding exploded, pulled out of the ski, and took the core with it. I definitely wouldn't want to use the same holes even if the core didn't break. Even with a new tap, there is a lot less integrity in the area so that, even if the hole was fine, the material around it could be compromised. It would likely be highly situational.
Feb 20 2021 9:25PM
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Paul.
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ReturnToMonkeyYeah but if youre replacing bindings, it probably means something broke suddenly. My last pair of skis broke when the heel binding exploded, pulled out of the ski, and took the core with it. I definitely wouldn't want to use the same holes even if the core didn't break. Even with a new tap, there is a lot less integrity in the area so that, even if the hole was fine, the material around it could be compromised. It would likely be highly situational.


I guess. Ive pulled my pivots a few times to fix the brakes and never have any issues with pull outs or anything. I did get a spinner or two on the 3rd remount though so I just quiver killered my heels and now I can pull the brakes whenever I need
Feb 20 2021 10:57PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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Paul.I guess. Ive pulled my pivots a few times to fix the brakes and never have any issues with pull outs or anything. I did get a spinner or two on the 3rd remount though so I just quiver killered my heels and now I can pull the brakes whenever I need

It's amazing how much you can beat up pivots and they still do their job
Feb 20 2021 11:08PM
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dolanslebensraum
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SPK_It's apparently sold by Decathlon in Russia. Decathlon is a legit sport seller, it's just completely unknown in NA. So if it's actually sold by them it's legit, but in the end, it's still aliexpress... And it's not unusual to find Attacks that cheap for sale on european online retailers.


Damn. If shipping wasnt to expensive you could buy a bunch and flip them in the states for a profit. I dont know tho shipping could be like 50 bucks that would kill ur margins
Feb 21 2021 1:19AM
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