DolansLebensraumFUCKING OWNED.
but seriously, that was interesting man. Its kind of posts like this that make ns a worthwhile brain lounge imo.
do you think this is why real estate prices are exploding right now?
I think the real problem in America and US corp land is the lack of freethinkers and creativity; nepotism and human greed. All citizens are the bond holders of US corp.; we took the brunt of the banks speculations and failures. We are not rewarded our fair share in US corp. land.
Libertardians claim, "don't tread on me..." and "I ain't not want to pay taxes..." Many elitists are self-admited libertardians and offshore their accounts in tax havens. These are the real scumbags of the US as are chain corporatioms. Why?
First, the libertardians don't realize that being a citizen or PERSON (corporation) in a limited liability capacity under US corp jurisdiction is TOTALLY VOLUNTARY. Meaning you do not actually have to participate in contributing to the fictional US corporation. Taxes are VOLUNTARY; just don't screw people over or threaten anyone with violence.
What comes with renouncing this voluntary contract? Well you could not have healthcare, no bank, no credit union, etc., you'd have to homeschool your children and the fire department totally wouldn't put out your house fire if you were not under US or state corp jurisdiction. I'm sure they would but there was a hilarious story awhile back of a man whose entire house burnt down and the town corp. refused to put it out because he had no state or federal privilages whatsoever. He never had to pay a dime in tax either. Many people live this way... usually as homesteaders and are hard-working, unlike billionaires who retain corp. privileges whilst whining about Us corp.
Libertarians are under the assumption that the state is very bad and we should just have private corporations and private interests take-over the country, not realizing that the US is a quasi-private public corporation; that it's sole benefit is to regulate private interests that threaten the lives of its members; such regulation has all but been taken over by these same private interest groups for their own benefit.
Hence, we have Libertarians and elitist billionaires offshoring their accounts into tax havens whilst still holding US corp privilages, therefore, breaking the law.
These schemes then fall unto the middle and lower classes.
Wealthy libertardians are not only acting like scumbags but they are stealing the welfare of those who voluntarily contracted with US corp to receive welfare, whilst they still retain nearly all of the privileges of Us corp that they state they despise.
http://books.google.com/books?id=hQMoAAAAYAAJ
>>>P. 86 Municipal Corporations
Enactment and Contents.
>>>...No particular form of words is necessary to the creation of a municipal corporation, although a particular form of words is generally used for this purpose, the question whether a particular statute creates a municipal cor poration is one of legislative intent.
>>>Fictio Legis Neminem Laedit
>>>A corporation is a collection of NATURAL PERSONS, joined together by they voluntary action or by legal compulsion, by or under the authority of an act of the legislature, consisting either of a special charter or of a general permissive statute, to accomplish some purpose, pecuniary, ideal, or GOVERNMENTAL, authorized by the...
>>>It will thus be seen that a corporation is not only a LEGAL ENTITY or ARTIFICIAL PERSON separate and distinct from the NATURAL PERSONS (fascism 4 da lulz) who compose it, but it is also a collection of INDIVIDUALS, and this conception of it is recognized by the courts whenever the FICTION of the LEGAL ENTITY is urged to a purpose NOT WITHIN ITS REASON.
Fortunately for us, humans are waking up to the LEGAL PERSON fiction.
So, to bring the law to the people... let's say there's a huge interest being charged on your "debt" and the creditor is racking in the money. Put it in your mind that you should WORK FOR THEM, to pay off that debt. So, for student loans, if a private individual is holding your debt, call them up and make them a qualitative tender offer. Ask them to work so many hours a-day until the "supposed" debt is paid off.
If they refuse this offer or better, if they refuse legal tender monies to pay off debt such as minted coins or fiat, then their claim is ab initio null, completely void, and the law of no effect. You're free.
Wager law is something the creditors do not want to see comeback. For if we all suit ourselves with the knowledge of their law or old law, we can deny any and all forms of contract.
This is a quick rundown by the legend CaptainSlappy that use to break down law and game theory (quoted until further notice).
>Because you have your mind on money and your money on your mind. So do they.
>Did God tell us to keep our mind on money or our mind on God?
>What if I told you, you have never seen real law?
>What if I told you, you have never seen a real jury trial?
>What if I told you...you only ever saw Grand, and Petit, Tax-Men, and Debt-Collectors?
>What if I told you...everyone in a court room except you...is an agent of the State, an agent of a corporation...or an agent of a private corporation, called the "BAR Association"?
>What if I told you that your entire system, from day one, was built on fictional debt collection?
>What if I told you, it is a Casino, and Human Resources Bank scam...by offering their account books to you...to sign off on?
>What if I told you it was part of the plan...man?
>What if I told you they banned the Star Chamber in England...then brought it back...and nobody noticed?
>What if I told you they NEVER banned it in America, especially the northern plantations...and you have always used it, and had it used against you...except for those "free territories" that long ago, ceased to exist...when they infiltrated you.
>What if I told you the BAR Association locked down the "just us" Justice system, by banning the peasants out of playing, to drain you dry, whether you were innocent or not, but that you were guilty before you stepped in the door?
>After all...if you were not guilty...why would they force you to go to court, and beg a judge...for a jury trial he runs?...why would you have to sit in jail, sometimes for months, outrageous bond, or no bail, just to have someone tell you that the "State" or "County" declares you guilty?...a "verdict" delivered by a "jury" they chair...not allowed to be the judges of the law, or the fact...they are only allowed to be judges of HOW MUCH debt you pay, or what fact is ALLOWED.
>...or that...of COURSE this is not law of contract...sign here, please.
>No...next to the big "X"...and initial here...and here...
>...this has nothing to do with Law Merchant...now, your fine is $500, and you have to pay the Probation or Parole Officer $40 a month...also, you have to pay for piss-testing, and...and...and...
>overlook that whole part where "penal statute" is monetarily based.
>Or that "Charges" are simply charges and claims of debt...for a fee, of course.
>What if I told you that for the last 150 years, the "Just Us" system was nothing more than a revenue-generating ponzi-scam for private corporations, via company agents, win or lose, it's all the same on your end, that tastes almost the same as real law, to enforce not justice, and not law...but compliance?
>What if I told you...your great-grandparents knew better than this.
>What if I told you...that was why "monetary systems" were introduced, to turn you into nothing but a battery for the machine, that never stops eating, yet is bloated but never full.
>What if I told you "legal" law, was nothing more than you walking into a company court, run by casino bosses and huckstering magicians, who are on the lookout for a fast buck, from an idiot john like yourself?
>What if I told you they were rubes and marks too...but they "know better"...there is no conspiracy HERE, Comrade...there is no such thing as "class warfare" in a Fascist State run by corporations, for corporations...and the United Nations corporation...there is no social engineering...there is no behaviour modification...after all, "Law School" would have taught THEM what this is...right?
>I mean...you didn't pay Harvard or Yale $400,000 for NOTHING but a shitty, 3rd rate, failed instruction manual from a Roman corporation full of shystering con-men that collapsed...due to idiot barbarians, who knew nothing of "great civilizations"...amirite?
>What if I told you, at one time, it was against the law for them to do exactly what they are doing...but you cannot own a Mercedes-Benz doing THAT, or run for "Governor" (sole corporation)...or own a "State of" corporation...or...or...or...
>...that if you didn't do it...you couldn't infest every single town, village, parish or city with it?
>That you couldn't break down loyalty to family, or loyalty to community...without it, to reshape it, Company Comrade?
>What if I told you, they could care less about actual law or justice, as long as it LOOKS good in the dog & pony, as long as they get their Lex Roma Civilii cut & skim, by making you a devoluted rube, with no knowledge of the law, real, or theirs?
>What if I told you, you THOUGHT you knew the law...and what if I told you, smartass, that's what you get for fucking thinking.
>Well...no need for me to tell you, pardner...I just showed you exactly that.
>Did you ever ponder this is why the "Constitution" hasn't applied, except when the corporation says so...since the beginning? After all, the "Annapolis Committee & Societal Corporation" did say, a "Constitution OF the Federal" and NOT a "Constitution FOR"..."
>If the "Constitution" really DID apply...couldn't you just stand on a street corner, yelling craftily copied quotes from it, and the magic ghosts of the "Founders" would appear to give you gold and silver? Wouldn't those mean old banks stop? Wouldn't "voting" get fixed?...."
>Or was it because it was never the law...FOR THEM.
But always was...for Members...and their Employees."
>As far as "Sovereignty" goes, with the State and local franchises, they are about as "sovereign" as a CORPORATION that is fictional can be...until Daddy says different, and that was taken care of LONG before your great-great-great-great grandpappy was done crapping his nappies."
>It is very simple, if somebody else ("Federal" corporation) signs you up into their corporation (United States) because you lost the war...you cease to exist as "sovereign"."
>Doubly so...when you do so "internationally". After all, that State corporation SUBMITTED (applied) to be an INFERIOR member of a MORE POWERFUL corporation (by force, Comrade), who is a member of a more, more powerful corporation, and throughout both, infesting and permeating every pore, nook, cranny and crevice...."
>Private Societal Companies, with MANY hired hands. Independence indeed."
>That way...you can skip all that kooky "Constitution" stuff. They are FAR removed from it, and have been since 1861. And 1871. And 1915. And 1933. And....and...and..over and over."
>Just think, this is what they are puking up on a platter to your military."
>I never said to like it.
I said "Know the Law"...and the Oracle of Delphi said, "Know Thyself"."
>Socrates said, "I don't know jack shit."....so it all works out in the end, because I for damned sure don't know as much as Socrates."
>I KNOW they don't."
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I think, at this point, it is up to us to make the fictional corporation better... to work for us as opposed to special interests lots of money.
Become one to rise to the ranks and then flip the tables on their heads. It's really the only way, if you want to change things federally. Locally is easier but it comes at the idiocy of state and fed jurisdictions preventing local consensus and streamlining their (private corporations) laws into the locality.
Also, cold weather makes my penis small.
