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phatlip
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I am currently on Line sir Francis bacon and Sakana. As we have not seen much snow where I live this season I dream of a stiffer ski that can handle the firm conditions a bit better. I am looking for a twintip that can perform well on piste, in the threes and in a bit of fresh snow, no park (but like going switch). Something that can be driven a bit harder than the Lines I have, but still not feel too demanding. At the moment I have been looking at the Faction Prodigy 2.0 and Rossignol Holyshred (and the short intro at Blister on the DPS koala 103) Anyone with experience with thees. Or anyone with other suggestions.

All thoughts are much appreciated!
Feb 16 2021 12:08PM
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Celery
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I've been on the RMU apostle 98's and they fit that description pretty well. They also have a 106. They're stiff throughout the ski, but the rocker up front makes them fairly butterable.
Feb 16 2021 1:06PM
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stinky_cheese
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4frnt devastator
Feb 16 2021 1:31PM
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phatlip
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Thanks for the tip, I will read up on them.
CeleryI've been on the RMU apostle 98's and they fit that description pretty well. They also have a 106. They're stiff throughout the ski, but the rocker up front makes them fairly butterable.
Feb 16 2021 1:51PM
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phatlip
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I have the Devastator on a list of skiis on my radar, but was thinking they might be a bit wide for really firm conditions. Do you have any thoughts on that?
stinky_cheese4frnt devastator
Feb 16 2021 1:53PM
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stinky_cheese
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phatlipI have the Devastator on a list of skiis on my radar, but was thinking they might be a bit wide for really firm conditions. Do you have any thoughts on that?


I think they do a great job in firmer snow. I had a pair for like 7 seasons and they only started getting a lil sketchy on the groomers once I had blown out the edge and sidewall of 3/4 edges. Like on straight up ice they aren't great but for groomers and especially on firm skied out chundery snow, they are all time
Feb 16 2021 4:29PM
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WoFlowz
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K2 marksman bomb though crud and snow if it’s super icy tho they’ll chatter
Feb 16 2021 4:31PM
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Charliehermens1
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Blizzard rustler
Feb 16 2021 5:01PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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If you don't mind weight, you might really like the Jskis Hotshot. 106 underfoot, heavy, but not unmanageably so. Can definitely get air and move them around, and they are super super fun to ski while being pretty stiff and very reliable at speed.

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/BigPurpleSkiSuit-Official-Jskis-Hotshot-review
Feb 16 2021 5:39PM
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phatlip
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Thanks! I will read up on them.
Charliehermens1Blizzard rustler
Feb 17 2021 1:41AM
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phatlip
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Thanks for the tip, but no one distribute them where I live.
BigPurpleSkiSuitIf you don't mind weight, you might really like the Jskis Hotshot. 106 underfoot, heavy, but not unmanageably so. Can definitely get air and move them around, and they are super super fun to ski while being pretty stiff and very reliable at speed.

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/BigPurpleSkiSuit-Official-Jskis-Hotshot-review
Feb 17 2021 1:43AM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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Where do you live? It can help with suggestions
phatlipThanks for the tip, but no one distribute them where I live.
Feb 17 2021 5:24AM
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phatlip
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Live in Norway, lot of smaller brands can be hard to get.
BradFiAusNzCoCaWhere do you live? It can help with suggestions
Feb 17 2021 9:48AM
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phatlip
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Anyone tried the Armada arv 96 Ti?
Feb 17 2021 9:48AM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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I feel that. I’m an American in Finland so I totally get it. @anders_a just got some J skis shipped to Norway actually
phatlipLive in Norway, lot of smaller brands can be hard to get.
Feb 17 2021 9:52AM
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phatlip
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Guess it just will be so expensive with taxes etc. Think I have to have tested them first to be 100%sure.
BradFiAusNzCoCaI feel that. I’m an American in Finland so I totally get it. @anders_a just got some J skis shipped to Norway actually
Feb 17 2021 10:15AM
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SofaKingSick
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phatlipAnyone tried the Armada arv 96 Ti?


great ski, my current daily ski. it's the tried and true arv 96 shape just stiffer and damper with the metal. sounds like a great ski for your uses
Feb 17 2021 10:17AM
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phatlip
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Good to hear! I am a bit confused about the flex rating at blister. Seems that they are rated almost similar to the SFB.

SFB

Tips: 6-6.5

Shovels: 6.5-7
In Front of Toe Piece: 7-9
Underfoot: 9
Behind the Heel Piece: 9-8
Tails: 7.5-6

Arv 96ti
Tips: 6
Shovels: 6.5-7
In Front of Toe Piece: 7.5-9
Underfoot: 9.5
Behind the Heel Piece: 9.5-8.5
Tails: 7.5-6
SofaKingSickgreat ski, my current daily ski. it's the tried and true arv 96 shape just stiffer and damper with the metal. sounds like a great ski for your uses
Feb 17 2021 11:30AM
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CatdickBojangles
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ON3P Jeffery or Woodsman.
Feb 17 2021 11:33AM
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Bended_Toenail
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phatlipI have the Devastator on a list of skiis on my radar, but was thinking they might be a bit wide for really firm conditions. Do you have any thoughts on that?


Nah, the Devs rip on hardpack. Super stable on all conditions as long and its not literal ice.
Feb 17 2021 11:36AM
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phatlip
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No distrbutor over heer.
CatdickBojanglesON3P Jeffery or Woodsman.
Feb 17 2021 11:41AM
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CatdickBojangles
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phatlipNo distrbutor over heer.


Ah sorry I missed that part.
Feb 17 2021 11:47AM
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SofaKingSick
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phatlipGood to hear! I am a bit confused about the flex rating at blister. Seems that they are rated almost similar to the SFB.

SFB

Tips: 6-6.5

Shovels: 6.5-7
In Front of Toe Piece: 7-9
Underfoot: 9
Behind the Heel Piece: 9-8
Tails: 7.5-6

Arv 96ti
Tips: 6
Shovels: 6.5-7
In Front of Toe Piece: 7.5-9
Underfoot: 9.5
Behind the Heel Piece: 9.5-8.5
Tails: 7.5-6


hm sorry i havent skied a SFB in years and i think they've changed significantly since then so i can't compare the TIs to SFBs for you. what specifically are you looking to know about their flex rating? obviously it's subjective but for what it's worth, i think that^ breakdown looks pretty accurate to me. i'd be happy to answer specific questions about the TIs if you got em though, and i could send you a video of hand flexing them or something if you wanted
Feb 17 2021 12:19PM
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anders_a
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@phatlip if your local to oslo with hemsedal/hafjell on the side I got tons of stuff to try, BSL 28 primary, but 27-29 usually fits, some 26 as well, ref shareing a few with GF.



I skied the revolt 121 today on duke PT16's as did a friend (100% mirror setup) put another buddy on blister pros + shift, skied wyller/tryvann and woods around, was getting tracked out, still fun.



Hemsedal for pow 06:00.
Feb 17 2021 2:22PM
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anders_a
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got the prod 2/3s,CT 1 ct 2,holyshred, menace 98, m-free 108, hotshot, devastator 18, and 20 mod and.. fischer 102fr (so fun)
Feb 17 2021 2:28PM
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