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Making backyard jumps

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2p2
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I just got some fresh powder, I was thinking of building a jump in my backyard to huck my first backflip on. What size jump should I make for this and does anybody have any tips on building the jump? thanks.
Feb 4 2021 11:50AM
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Celery
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Before you think about hucking a backflip, make sure you can do them consistently on a trampoline, into water, etc. For the jump make sure you can get enough speed to get the airtime you need. I'd make the lip a little steeper than you might usually ride to help set the rotation.
Feb 4 2021 12:20PM
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zakk21
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To build the jump use ply wood or anything like it, put 3 sheets to make like a |_| shape and fill it with snow. If the snow is light it will take a lot of packing and water.
Feb 4 2021 12:29PM
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KCoCM
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zakk21To build the jump use ply wood or anything like it, put 3 sheets to make like a |_| shape and fill it with snow. If the snow is light it will take a lot of packing and water.


I would just use all snow prolly
Feb 4 2021 12:40PM
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zakk21
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KCoCMI would just use all snow prolly

It would just be easier and when the snow is packed enough you remove the sheets
Feb 4 2021 1:14PM
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KCoCM
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zakk21It would just be easier and when the snow is packed enough you remove the sheets


ohh i thought u were saying to put snow ontop of the plywood and use it as the lip.

Now that I know what ur saying I think i would still wanna leave the top part off and just use something on the sides to keep the snow piling upwards
Feb 4 2021 1:16PM
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2p2
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CeleryBefore you think about hucking a backflip, make sure you can do them consistently on a trampoline, into water, etc. For the jump make sure you can get enough speed to get the airtime you need. I'd make the lip a little steeper than you might usually ride to help set the rotation.


I can backflip on tramp, and can gainer off diver boards, is that enough to be ready to try one on skis?
Feb 4 2021 1:17PM
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ASAPCarter
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2p2I can backflip on tramp, and can gainer off diver boards, is that enough to be ready to try one on skis?


Go for it, worst that can happen is you under rotate, snap your neck, never ski again, and live the rest of your life as a vegetable.

jk but in all honesty you’ll prob be fine as long as you already have the muscle memory. When you’re building your own jump you can make the lip nice and steep so it kinda starts the rotation for you.
Feb 4 2021 1:22PM
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theabortionator
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ASAPCarterGo for it, worst that can happen is you under rotate, snap your neck, never ski again, and live the rest of your life as a vegetable.

jk but in all honesty you’ll prob be fine as long as you already have the muscle memory. When you’re building your own jump you can make the lip nice and steep so it kinda starts the rotation for you.


Woah dude. Jesus
Feb 4 2021 1:25PM
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2p2
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ASAPCarterGo for it, worst that can happen is you under rotate, snap your neck, never ski again, and live the rest of your life as a vegetable.

jk but in all honesty you’ll prob be fine as long as you already have the muscle memory. When you’re building your own jump you can make the lip nice and steep so it kinda starts the rotation for you.


Ok thanks, do you have any idea for how big I can build the jump?
Feb 4 2021 1:26PM
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ASAPCarter
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2p2Ok thanks, do you have any idea for how big I can build the jump?


I have no idea what your backyard is like or if you even have the room/in run but poppier is always better
Feb 4 2021 1:42PM
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SofaKingSick
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2p2I can backflip on tramp, and can gainer off diver boards, is that enough to be ready to try one on skis?

Awesome-- it feels just like a gainer except you have weight on your feet BUT the jump helps you set the flip unlike on a gainer

just make sure to POP and bring those hips around. It's all in the hips 🎵

idk what your backyard looks like but make it poppy. It doesn't have to be huge but in terms of backyard jumps, yeah make it as big as you reasonably can. Make the landing soft as possible so it's no big deal if you fall
Feb 4 2021 2:30PM
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2p2
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SofaKingSickAwesome-- it feels just like a gainer except you have weight on your feet BUT the jump helps you set the flip unlike on a gainer

just make sure to POP and bring those hips around. It's all in the hips 🎵

idk what your backyard looks like but make it poppy. It doesn't have to be huge but in terms of backyard jumps, yeah make it as big as you reasonably can. Make the landing soft as possible so it's no big deal if you fall

Here’s the jump I built, I am gunna add a little more. Is it big enough right now to flip on?
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/992137/trim-3F4D88A5-5D36-4C61-AC2F-D83F962473AB-MOV
Feb 4 2021 7:00PM
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SavageBiff
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That’s what I did I can show pics tomorrow. But if it’s dry you will need water. I packed mine with a shovel, sled, and skis I then used a landscape rake for level and grade of slope
Get a good bit piled then start packing into a cube from all sides, add more repeat until it’s the right size, I kinda built and packed mine into shape or you could pile , pack and then cut with shovel
im actually really thinking of trying a Jackie tomorrow toaster reading big purps how to backflip thread I’m itching, I know I can, it’s just balls and I’m a dad I’m supposed to not get crippled and be able to work....
KCoCMI would just use all snow prolly
Feb 4 2021 9:34PM
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KCoCM
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dude just build a rail lol backyard backflips sound sketch
Feb 4 2021 9:43PM
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SofaKingSick
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2p2Here’s the jump I built, I am gunna add a little more. Is it big enough right now to flip on?
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/992137/trim-3F4D88A5-5D36-4C61-AC2F-D83F962473AB-MOV


Build the lip up more and much steeper. You can totally do a backy on that jump but that ain't a beginner's backy jump at all right now. Build it way steeper and put a ton of chopped up snow on the landing and I'd say go for it if you're feeling it and truly can feel you got it
Feb 4 2021 10:15PM
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2p2
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SofaKingSickBuild the lip up more and much steeper. You can totally do a backy on that jump but that ain't a beginner's backy jump at all right now. Build it way steeper and put a ton of chopped up snow on the landing and I'd say go for it if you're feeling it and truly can feel you got it

ok thanks, thats super helpful.
Feb 4 2021 11:48PM
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SofaKingSick
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Maybe I'll change my mind if you post another video with it way bigger and steeper and a ton of snow chopped on the landing and you showing me a really good looking straight air on it but right now I say that's not a good first backy jump, wait for a better situation
Feb 4 2021 11:53PM
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GeorgeMadison
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I wouldn’t backy until you can at least 7. Obv many people do it before that but I just think it’s worth being super comfortable in the air and learning bigger spins first. I could do a 900 before I first learned to backflip and still almost landed on my head the first time. I would say if you go for it be aggressive in the air. I thought it would sort of just come around but don’t panic and stay tucked until your tips are clear.
Feb 5 2021 8:46PM
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theabortionator
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GeorgeMadisonI wouldn’t backy until you can at least 7. Obv many people do it before that but I just think it’s worth being super comfortable in the air and learning bigger spins first. I could do a 900 before I first learned to backflip and still almost landed on my head the first time. I would say if you go for it be aggressive in the air. I thought it would sort of just come around but don’t panic and stay tucked until your tips are clear.


I don't agree. Maybe 3 but 7? Idk. A lot of people that can backflip in their sleep have never throw a 7. It all depends on the person and comfort level. Honestly a backflip is a pretty easy trick other than the issues with having to get the balls to send the first one, and dialing it in sometimes. A 7 maybe less scary sometimes but a backflip is def easier imo.

People learn tricks is all different orders so it doesn't really matter.
Feb 5 2021 9:00PM
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Slowbro
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Inspired by this thread I built a backyard jump and did a wack flip. Make your jump a lot bigger and kickier than mine please lol
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/992359/trim-7BC62563-ABB9-43CD-A02F-C53C4F47033A-MOV
Feb 6 2021 2:59PM
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SofaKingSick
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SlowbroInspired by this thread I built a backyard jump and did a wack flip. Make your jump a lot bigger and kickier than mine please lol
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/992359/trim-7BC62563-ABB9-43CD-A02F-C53C4F47033A-MOV


This backs what I said perfectly. 100% possible but that wasn't your first flip clearly, not an easy place for a first flip
Feb 6 2021 6:07PM
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2p2
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I ended up trying a backyflip tonight as a lot of people were doing them, I over rotated on both my attempts. What should I try to fix for next time?
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/994775/trim-BE0D61FA-9788-4601-996D-0EF415C802A7-MOV
Feb 23 2021 11:59PM
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SofaKingSick
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2p2I ended up trying a backyflip tonight as a lot of people were doing them, I over rotated on both my attempts. What should I try to fix for next time?
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/994775/trim-BE0D61FA-9788-4601-996D-0EF415C802A7-MOV


oh snap you basically have it dude!

go a tiny bit faster (since you knuckled a little) and POP way more and bring your hips up as you finish that big pop. you did what backflip noobs do a lot, didn't pop enough so your trajectory in the air is low slung and you have less time to trick. you were over-rotating already, and you're going to go a tiny bit bigger this time, so don't huck the flip quite as much. hucking the flip is super understandable but now that you have gone through it a couple times and see that you will bring it around, take a tiiiny bit of hot sauce off that flipping speed and start looking for the landing pretty much immediately. the earlier you spot the landing, the more time your body has to naturally react and bring the landing gear down and open up to slow the flip or tuck to speed it up

so, a little more speed, BIG POP, hips, spot that landing asap. you ever see POV videos where a pro does a double or triple backy? see how the flip seems to slow down/almost stop each time he spots the landing? that's him spotting the landing and reacting according to what he sees (mostly subconsciously). you're doing the one-flip version of that. big pop, hips send the flip but you almost immediately spot the landing and your body can slow things down from there if it wants/needs to
Feb 24 2021 3:08PM
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koolkale
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Build the steepest jump you can. For an ideal backflip jump, you want to be more scared to do a straight air than a backie. Let the jump do 1/2 the work for you. Trust me.
Feb 24 2021 5:20PM
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SavageBiff
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My ? When doing my first backie on skis, for someone who’s ultra comfortable with single and double flips on a trampoline, can backflip on foot, can spin 3,5 other various beginner maybe intermediate tricks, and butter skis, can eat shit like a pro too, do you guys find the skis are stopping your rotation, or is the inertia whipping your feet back under you? Wanna know what to expect, I feel first attempt coming soon...
Feb 24 2021 5:53PM
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GeorgeMadison
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SavageBiffMy ? When doing my first backie on skis, for someone who’s ultra comfortable with single and double flips on a trampoline, can backflip on foot, can spin 3,5 other various beginner maybe intermediate tricks, and butter skis, can eat shit like a pro too, do you guys find the skis are stopping your rotation, or is the inertia whipping your feet back under you? Wanna know what to expect, I feel first attempt coming soon...


It's different for everyone. For me, when I did my first one I did it on a poppy jump and thought the jump would do most of the work for me. I ended up kind of landing on my face. I would build a poppy jump into pow or soft landing at least and just be pretty aggressive with it. It's better to over rotate a bit than tip dig.
Feb 25 2021 11:26PM
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SofaKingSick
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SavageBiffMy ? When doing my first backie on skis, for someone who’s ultra comfortable with single and double flips on a trampoline, can backflip on foot, can spin 3,5 other various beginner maybe intermediate tricks, and butter skis, can eat shit like a pro too, do you guys find the skis are stopping your rotation, or is the inertia whipping your feet back under you? Wanna know what to expect, I feel first attempt coming soon...


The gear makes your feet way heavier than you're used to when you jump off shit but it's more than made up for by the fact that the jump gives you the flip. Imagine a gaper points it at a jump and takes off out of control, what will happen? They'll get sent into a backward fall. The jump almost wants you to do a backflip. Backies feel like a gainer with weight on your feet but without any of the technical difficulty of a gainer. You still POP - FLIP but it's way more natural and easy
Feb 26 2021 9:31AM
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SavageBiff
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Kinda how I envisioned it in my mind , gainers easy enough off boards , tramps and foot so maybe very soon
only problem is the jump I’ve trained on 3 x a day for a month looks like this now



SofaKingSickThe gear makes your feet way heavier than you're used to when you jump off shit but it's more than made up for by the fact that the jump gives you the flip. Imagine a gaper points it at a jump and takes off out of control, what will happen? They'll get sent into a backward fall. The jump almost wants you to do a backflip. Backies feel like a gainer with weight on your feet but without any of the technical difficulty of a gainer. You still POP - FLIP but it's way more natural and easy
Feb 26 2021 9:37AM
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