Vail Resorts ruining east coast park skiing

justinp4400Long story short: Vail has cut the size of Sunapee's park in half this year. In the past Sunapee has always had two side by side trails but this year they groomed one flat for either beginner terrain or I hate to say it, a slalom course for the race team. Can we get a chain of people to spam the mountains Instagram (mountsunapee) NOT the terrain parks Instagram because it is run by park crew and you will just be complaint to the people who are complaining to the higher ups with some sort of grief over this or the fact that the park has still not open yet (January 29). A lot of the local kids have been doing this on the past posts but if we can get big numbers maybe management will take a different stance.

Lets see what the ns threads can still do to help out the freestyle community its been years since I've made a thread

T.L.https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/920711/Is-Vail-Resorts-mandating-changes-in-their-parks-or-something-

WoFlowzI heard hunter mtn got scammed also they don’t even have a park kids have been digging stuff in on their own from what I’ve seen. I saw something last year about vail getting ride of okemos super pipe and their park got smaller as well. Even carinthia doesn’t look as big as normal. Big boulders completely shrunk park wise now that pat Morgan left. No superpipe at breck or big big jumps. What I’ve seen of keystone they don’t have big jumps that coulda changed since what I saw last, and pc aren’t as big as they were a few years ago. You could argue all this is a lack of snow and cold temps and the good ole covid of the 19, but you could also say vail is trying to phase out parks. I personally think it’s a bit of both.

uturnAre you sure they're done building/blowing. Sunapee has opened one trail and left the other one flat tons of times and then come back and finished it up a few weeks later... I would be surprised if they started fucking with the park this year considering they blew more snow in that park last year than ever before... there was snow in there til june...
That being said Vail has fucked sunapee since they bought out the Muellers. They take months longer to open the mountain up than before and their grooming has gone to shit.
It would be a shame if they shit canned the park

uturnDamn, I was hoping things would get better with the new manager. Last two were bitchy Vail robots. Did they give you guys a reason as to why you couldn't do things the way they have been done the last 20years?

justinp4400Were doing our best with what we have still going to be mad fun and we got some new features just hoping some pressure put in the public eye will make rethink things next year

XCI feel this, and I feel sorry.
Vail has done the same thing to the Canyons side of Park City Mountain Resort. The park was AMAZING before Vail. Then Vail has made it smaller. And now this year they didn't even open Transitions (park) because of "personnel shortage". That entire huge potion of the resort has nothing. Just features rusting away.
Funny enough, PCMR has had a CRAZY amount of traffic and tourism this year. Cutting the buck where it hits us first...typical giant corporation behavior.

eheathI mean you're just delusional if you think anyone (including vail) cares about park skiing. Just be happy they still build a huge park on the PC side. Also, transitions will be back next year when they have more budget and no global pandemic to deal with.

theabortionatorI would argue that powdr cares quite a bit or at least sees potential in terrain parks and that customer base to make some coin.

eheathI mean you're just delusional if you think anyone (including vail) cares about park skiing.

jakeordie991376

Red's is free. Sign a waiver, and hike it for zero dollars.

eheathyou should hit up woodward for a cut of their marketing budget

jakeordieDude, it's free.

You can't be dumb enough to think there's no alternative to Vail.

eheathI mean you're just delusional if you think anyone (including vail) cares about park skiing. Just be happy they still build a huge park on the PC side. Also, transitions will be back next year when they have more budget and no global pandemic to deal with.

XCDelusional? Ok buddy.

Keep on boot licking there fella.

awfulskierAs much as it sucks its pretty fucking true. Parks are in no way profitable so vail shareholders mandate that they cut down on them.

XCIt's not about the corporate reality that you boot lickers are spewing...it's about the loss of culture. We all KNOW why it's happening. Doesn't mean we can't be pissed and can't fight back. In the end the consumers hold the most power. Not some cynical apologists.

XCIt's not about the corporate reality that you boot lickers are spewing...it's about the loss of culture. We all KNOW why it's happening. Doesn't mean we can't be pissed and can't fight back. In the end the consumers hold the most power. Not some cynical apologists.

DeebieSkeebies*que all the Vail lapdogs that will come into this thread and complain about people complaining about Vail*

awfulskierYou can be pissed, i'd be too but average vail costumer makes 170k a year, vail doesnt care about pissing us off because we are a smaller consumer group that they barely make money off anyway.

XCYou'd be surprised what power an online negative PR campaign against Vail has and the changes they'll make if people are loud enough.

BiffbarfIn this thread: people blaming vail for cutting costs while covid regulations continue to gut the industry. Why are people suprised?

XCHave you been to Park City this year? It's nuts. There isn't a shortage of business.

justinp4400Long story short: Vail has cut the size of Sunapee's park in half this year. In the past Sunapee has always had two side by side trails but this year they groomed one flat for either beginner terrain or I hate to say it, a slalom course for the race team. Can we get a chain of people to spam the mountains Instagram (mountsunapee) NOT the terrain parks Instagram because it is run by park crew and you will just be complaint to the people who are complaining to the higher ups with some sort of grief over this or the fact that the park has still not open yet (January 29). A lot of the local kids have been doing this on the past posts but if we can get big numbers maybe management will take a different stance.

Lets see what the ns threads can still do to help out the freestyle community its been years since I've made a thread

XCYou'd be surprised what power an online negative PR campaign against Vail has and the changes they'll make if people are loud enough.

awfulskierAs much as it sucks its pretty fucking true. Parks are in no way profitable so vail shareholders mandate that they cut down on them.

XCThat's all I've dealt with this thread. Good call.

SavageBiffIf you guys are so upset about vail parks get together and protest in person, hold hands and close off a lift, slope, ticket booth or access road, just don’t wreck shit and don’t hinder and medical vehicles etc in any way, close access to a park and build your own, take secret shits in inconvenient places and leave a note as to y it’s there idk have fun with it

skiermanAh yes, invoking Martin Luther King Jr's famous speech... "I have a dream that one day we can take secret shits in inconvenient places. I don't know, have fun with it!"

justinp4400Long story short: Vail has cut the size of Sunapee's park in half this year. In the past Sunapee has always had two side by side trails but this year they groomed one flat for either beginner terrain or I hate to say it, a slalom course for the race team. Can we get a chain of people to spam the mountains Instagram (mountsunapee) NOT the terrain parks Instagram because it is run by park crew and you will just be complaint to the people who are complaining to the higher ups with some sort of grief over this or the fact that the park has still not open yet (January 29). A lot of the local kids have been doing this on the past posts but if we can get big numbers maybe management will take a different stance.

Lets see what the ns threads can still do to help out the freestyle community its been years since I've made a thread

XCYou'd be surprised what power an online negative PR campaign against Vail has and the changes they'll make if people are loud enough.

BiffbarfLiftlines and full lots =/= business. Ski areas make their money selling $15 burgers and $9 macrobrews, not by selling season passes to bums pounding pbr's and pb&j's

SkiBum.That’s actually false. The largest revenue stream comes from pass sales/tickets.

DeebieSkeebiesThey *Allegedly* scrub any and all PR thats negative so good luck with that