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mistaNasty
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How can we get this site to have more active users and more frequent posts? I miss the days where there were several hundred people online at once and I know you all do too. Throw some suggestions around to make the site more popular again but without making it so popular we get overloaded with kooks. I know the app could use some updates and I also know that the funding for this site is unfortunately lacking. I just want to see this community grow a little and be more popular among fellow shredders.

P.s. I know this thread belongs in site discussion but I’m posting here because there is a lot more activity here
Jan 26 2021 2:20PM
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Session
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GrandThingsPerhaps maybe my most controversial opinion ever....

....open Newschoolers to snowboarders too


I spent the last 2 years snowboarding.
Jan 27 2021 12:02PM
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Dan-Man
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turn it into a porn site.
Jan 27 2021 12:18PM
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katrina
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Dan-Manturn it into a porn site.


Ski fans only. I bet trevor would dump em out.
Jan 27 2021 12:37PM
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GrandThings
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SessionI spent the last 2 years snowboarding.


Thats dope, I've actually done a few days on one plank too this year! Tangle got me so hyped on snowboarding this season. Desiree Melancon is so fucking dope. Any chance we're getting an ON3P board with that sexy green base? jk (...but it would be sick)

I know there are many members already on here that are boarders not skiers (shout out @theabortionator) , but I'm saying the easiest way to grow the site would be to start directly including boarding content. Not saying this SHOULD happen, but just for the sake of conversation about how to grow the site, I think this is pretty obviously the easiest way to grow.
Jan 27 2021 12:40PM
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Jpurd
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The fact that this thread was posted in SG and not Site Discussion points to how the forums are dying. No one reads Site Discussion anymore.
Jan 27 2021 1:16PM
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eheath
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JpurdThe fact that this thread was posted in SG and not Site Discussion points to how the forums are dying. No one reads Site Discussion anymore.


SD was pretty dead back in the day too haha
Jan 27 2021 1:27PM
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Session
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GrandThingsThats dope, I've actually done a few days on one plank too this year! Tangle got me so hyped on snowboarding this season. Desiree Melancon is so fucking dope. Any chance we're getting an ON3P board with that sexy green base? jk (...but it would be sick)

I know there are many members already on here that are boarders not skiers (shout out @theabortionator ) , but I'm saying the easiest way to grow the site would be to start directly including boarding content. Not saying this SHOULD happen, but just for the sake of conversation about how to grow the site, I think this is pretty obviously the easiest way to grow.

Not gonna lie. I dropped quite a few hints to Scott about an ON3P snowboard. I even contemplated going to a custom snowboard company and seeing if I could use an ON3P graphic. But alas, snowboarding fucks my knee.
Jan 27 2021 1:38PM
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mountaindewgirl
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SessionNot gonna lie. I dropped quite a few hints to Scott about an ON3P snowboard. I even contemplated going to a custom snowboard company and seeing if I could use an ON3P graphic. But alas, snowboarding fucks my knee.


"Snowboarding fucks my knee" is the #1 reason people start snowskating. You might give it a try, dude
Jan 27 2021 1:52PM
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J_Christoph
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Would be sick to have a larger mountain name one of its parks after Newschoolers as a tribute to how influential the site has been for so many!
Jan 27 2021 2:19PM
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GrandThings
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Has Newschoolers ever sponsored a skier?

You could even turn it into a community thing sort of like Member of the Month except its for a rider. We can crowdsource some money to give them a little bread/make it worth it for them or even vote on which rider to sponsor each year.

I know I'd be more hyped on a contest rider or some X-Games skier if they had a Newschoolers sticker slapped on their helmet. Then when some kid at home sees it on TV and googles "Newschoolers" they're more likely to come to the site than the Instagram page?
Jan 27 2021 2:51PM
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katrina
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I guess the real question is what attracts advertisers the most and what drives the bottom line. Because the more money that gets brought in the more flexibility is available.
Jan 27 2021 2:52PM
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piss.boy
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Dont know if this has been touched on before in this thread but it might be cool to see them sponsoring and having a hand in more competions and such, not big ones like xgames necessarily but it would be nice to see there name on local rail jams and film stuff more.
Jan 27 2021 3:11PM
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eheath
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You guys think money grows on trees or something?
Jan 27 2021 3:20PM
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SofaKingSick
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larilinesign"Snowboarding fucks my knee" is the #1 reason people start snowskating. You might give it a try, dude


explain? i love snow skating but don't understand the connection. do you just mean that people who wanna shred can snowskate instead of snowboarding for the sake of their knees since it's less intense or whatever?
Jan 27 2021 3:24PM
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MarkusFin
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I also think that as other posters have pointed out, newschoolers exclusive content would bring a lot of people here. I think that's also why we've seen so much traffic here lately. It doesn't have to be permanently newschoolers exlusive, but for the first 24 hours is a nice middle ground IMO. like with FORRGIVE, newest bunch movie, carnage movie, magma etc.

However on the negative side I think the forum layout is the reason it's not being used.
I will keep pointing it out, but there is a reason the forums on newschoolers have always been for the most addicted people only.

The parent comment and quoting in this forum is a fucking mess. Trying to keep track of the original discussion after a post derails into several topics is impossible.

A lot of people hate the point system of reddit, but its parent comment system is extremely efficient. You could introduce something similar, with hiding of parent / child comments, but without the voting system that discourages different opinions.
Jan 27 2021 3:25PM
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katrina
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eheathYou guys think money grows on trees or something?


It doesn't?
Jan 27 2021 3:30PM
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Butterytips69
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eheathYou guys think money grows on trees or something?


Why don't you just buy a mountain and name it Newschoolers but instead of having people buy tickets they have to have an account. The increase in site traffic would offset the mountain operating costs with that sweet sweet ad revenue. God it's like nobody understands business these days.
Jan 27 2021 3:30PM
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piss.boy
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MarkusFinI also think that as other posters have pointed out, newschoolers exclusive content would bring a lot of people here. I think that's also why we've seen so much traffic here lately. It doesn't have to be permanently newschoolers exlusive, but for the first 24 hours is a nice middle ground IMO. like with FORRGIVE, newest bunch movie, carnage movie, magma etc.

However on the negative side I think the forum layout is the reason it's not being used.
I will keep pointing it out, but there is a reason the forums on newschoolers have always been for the most addicted people only.

The parent comment and quoting in this forum is a fucking mess. Trying to keep track of the original discussion after a post derails into several topics is impossible.

A lot of people hate the point system of reddit, but its parent comment system is extremely efficient. You could introduce something similar, with hiding of parent / child comments, but without the voting system that discourages different opinions.


Im being serious when I say this, my friend introduced me to newschoolers as a way to read about skiing stuff in school right? Almost a year later and I mention something I read in a forum to him and he ask me this " whats a forum" He has been on here for almost a year and never ventured to any forum pages lol
Jan 27 2021 3:37PM
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mountaindewgirl
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SofaKingSickexplain? i love snow skating but don't understand the connection. do you just mean that people who wanna shred can snowskate instead of snowboarding for the sake of their knees since it's less intense or whatever?


Ohh!! I didn't know you rode one! Very sweet!

But yeah if you have flexibility or joint pain that restricts you from snowboarding, because being in bindings all day causes you pain, snowskating is the way to go. Easier on the body, especially the knees.

The "core" scene is basically just old dudes that aged out of snowboarding and into snowskating.
Jan 27 2021 3:38PM
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GrandThings
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eheathYou guys think money grows on trees or something?


How much would it cost to get a contest-pro to put a Newschoolers sticker on their helmet? Is this something that could feasibly be crowd-funded? Honestly curious is this is something ya'll have explored because it seems like it would be a naturally symbiotic relationship?
Jan 27 2021 3:46PM
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BAA
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I would think there has been quite an uptick with everyone stuck @ home spending more time on their phones.... after so long people get bored of their ig feeds and tune back into NS to get something fresh.

Overall and for the foreseeable future I think getting more original content is going to be key to increasing site traffic / meaningful interaction. Personally I would like to see more narrative / storytelling type content on here. I think what cy has done is phenomenal and would love to see more in that regard.
The one thing that plagues NS is repeat content typically in the form of complaining / bitching about how some goon @ the hill wrecked someone's day or nearly hit someone's kid or how covid masks are dumb or whatever. That content gets absolutely blown up in the comments and often times is just endless bickering. Clearly that problem is not on NS to fix, but I think having more original or narrative based content would help to fill the site with more worthwhile traffic.

I think @eheath is spot on and ahead of the curve about staying true to the forum style platform. Forum style platforms are going to make a tremendous comeback when social media dies, and I think in our current environment social media is dying more everyday.

I would love to see more NS interaction with small time ski hills / resorts though and maybe its just not attainable in a sport so driven by profit. I think everyone is well aware that there is no to little money in skiing and I would think if NS had coffers filled with money they would have already done alot of the outreach / improvements that has been suggested. I think crowdfunded jams might be the way to go. I would love to see parties at small time hills with the NS badge posted on the soccer mom pop up tents.
Jan 27 2021 3:48PM
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SofaKingSick
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larilinesignOhh!! I didn't know you rode one! Very sweet!

But yeah if you have flexibility or joint pain that restricts you from snowboarding, because being in bindings all day causes you pain, snowskating is the way to go. Easier on the body, especially the knees.

The "core" scene is basically just old dudes that aged out of snowboarding and into snowskating.


gotcha. yeah dude, love snowskating, and with a snow skate, skis, and a powsurf i'm ready for any snow sliding opportunity that arises haha
Jan 27 2021 4:06PM
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eheath
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GrandThingsHow much would it cost to get a contest-pro to put a Newschoolers sticker on their helmet? Is this something that could feasibly be crowd-funded? Honestly curious is this is something ya'll have explored because it seems like it would be a naturally symbiotic relationship?


Realistically that would cost probably $5k, every athlete is different, but I talked to many athletes about this exact topic, the range was $2-10k and some said not for sale, etc.

In the end, anything more than $1000 would not be worth having a sticker on the helmet of one skier. This might get someone to go "whats newschoolers?" but there is no ROI on that. The way that NS operates is very lean, down and dirty, the parent company is constantly cutting costs (on all brands) and the only way NS could get "more" money for anything, NS would have to be generating more revenue than previous years at a significant pace.

If NS were more independent and 100% of ad revenue was being returned to NS, you could possibility argue the value of a sticker on the helmet of a significant skier, everyone assumes this but NS and the people that work for it don't have a ton of control over the budget. Hope this clears some things up.

**This post was edited on Jan 27th 2021 at 4:31:35pm
Jan 27 2021 4:25PM
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404404
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Hit me up. I got ideas and need people to work with.
Jan 27 2021 4:28PM
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GrandThings
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eheathRealistically that would cost probably $5k, every athlete is different, but I talked to many athletes about this exact topic, the range was $2-10k and some said not for sale, etc.

In the end, anything more than $1000 would not be worth having a sticker on the helmet of one skier. This might get someone to go "whats newschoolers?" but there is no ROI on that. The way that NS operates is very lean, down and dirty, the parent company is constantly cutting costs (on all brands) and the only way NS could get "more" money for anything, NS would have to be generating more revenue than previous years at a significant pace.

If NS were more independent and 100% of ad revenue was being returned to NS, you could possibility argue the value of a sticker on the helmet of a significant skier, everyone assumes this but NS and the people that work for it don't have a ton of control over the budget. Hope this clears some things up.

**This post was edited on Jan 27th 2021 at 4:31:35pm


Damn yeah thats wayyyy more than I thought. (I was thinking it'd be around the 1k range.) I would have liked to think that you'd be able to get a homie discount or something, but I guess that's pretty unrealistic given how lean a lot of these dudes are already living.

I'll just keep telling kids in the park that NS is more than an instapage!
Jan 27 2021 4:51PM
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dolanslebensraum
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BLandz_@dolanslebensraum gotta post more



Jan 27 2021 5:42PM
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eheath
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GrandThingsDamn yeah thats wayyyy more than I thought. (I was thinking it'd be around the 1k range.) I would have liked to think that you'd be able to get a homie discount or something, but I guess that's pretty unrealistic given how lean a lot of these dudes are already living.

I'll just keep telling kids in the park that NS is more than an instapage!


Yeah I mean that space is valuable, usually you only see stickers of big sponsors on skis/helmets, so if you take that into account, it could be worth even more...

Its crazy how many kids think that NS is just an instagram page, basically if you're under 18 you don't know about websites.
Jan 27 2021 7:05PM
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katrina
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eheathYeah I mean that space is valuable, usually you only see stickers of big sponsors on skis/helmets, so if you take that into account, it could be worth even more...

Its crazy how many kids think that NS is just an instagram page, basically if you're under 18 you don't know about websites.


Omg we are old.
Jan 27 2021 7:52PM
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nmwninjart
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I absolutely love the forums. I'm older too and have spent many years reading discussion forums in my other and past hobbies. I still have at least 5 of them bookmarked on the computer. I've learned so much using this type of platform. Ig has its place, but god the advertisements after every 3rd post and story are getting ridiculous and distracting!
Jan 27 2021 8:13PM
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WoFlowz
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eheathYeah I mean that space is valuable, usually you only see stickers of big sponsors on skis/helmets, so if you take that into account, it could be worth even more...

Its crazy how many kids think that NS is just an instagram page, basically if you're under 18 you don't know about websites.


I’m 14 and convinced 2 friends to make ns accounts and try to actually post. I got an account thanks to my friend Jack. Trying to be active in forums and stuff I actually like NS better than ig for the most part. It’s not an overwhelming amount of content just shoved in your face.
Jan 27 2021 8:17PM
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eheath
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WoFlowzI’m 14 and convinced 2 friends to make ns accounts and try to actually post. I got an account thanks to my friend Jack. Trying to be active in forums and stuff I actually like NS better than ig for the most part. It’s not an overwhelming amount of content just shoved in your face.

Hell ya man, word of mouth will be more powerful than anything else TBF
Jan 27 2021 8:25PM
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katrina
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eheathHell ya man, word of mouth will be more powerful than anything else TBF


What does TBF mean?
Jan 27 2021 8:30PM
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eheath
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katrinaWhat does TBF mean?


lol it means To Be Frank, similar to TBH
Jan 27 2021 8:36PM
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katrina
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eheathlol it means To Be Frank, similar to TBH


Wtf is TBH?

I was thinking...

Jan 27 2021 8:58PM
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eheath
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katrinaWtf is TBH?

I was thinking...



trina just use google its faster lol
Jan 27 2021 9:10PM
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johnoble
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eheathYeah I mean that space is valuable, usually you only see stickers of big sponsors on skis/helmets, so if you take that into account, it could be worth even more...

Its crazy how many kids think that NS is just an instagram page, basically if you're under 18 you don't know about websites.


My gf was telling me the other night that shes never met another person who just "browses the internet". somehow our gen grew up on the internet and still manages to be ignorant of so much about it. its as if the idea is that the internet is just for getting instant satisfaction(socials, looking up pieces of information), and not a place where actual meaningful content exists
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