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halfwatt
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recently i was on a lift and the topic of working out came up in our group. i joined into the convo because i actually enjoy lifting. when i said that i enjoy lifting though, i got a mini lecture on how lifting (bench, DL, weighted dips, etc) does nothing for my “core stability” and these workouts hinder my skiing. kinda ticked me off tbh, considering that I’m a better skier than OP (hopefully that didn’t come off self righteous)

Dont get me wrong, I know that functional training/CrossFit/calisthenics has its place, I’ve seen crazy transformations because of these too. But when CrossFit people act like weight lifting is some primitive brutish routine it gives them all a bad rep.
Jan 18 2021 12:21PM
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mountaindewgirl
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A vegan atheist crossfitter walks into a bar. Which do they tell you about first?
Jan 18 2021 12:34PM
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ASSholebomber22
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larilinesignA vegan atheist crossfitter walks into a bar. Which do they tell you about first?

'I'm a pilot'
Jan 18 2021 12:37PM
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Casey
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I disagree that it’s harmful. Maybe for certain disciplines at Olympic levels but most elite skiers you see can generate pretty serious power with their legs, I guess it kind of depends on who you are to start with, if I had to choose one activity to prep someone for skiing I’d probably recommend they just run their ass off, but I mean whatever anything is better than nothing!
Jan 18 2021 3:54PM
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Sdot.
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snowdaynwi got a mini lecture on how lifting (bench, DL, weighted dips, etc) does nothing for my “core stability” and these workouts hinder my skiing.

Well that's insane yet semi-hilarious, considering the deadlift is one of the absolute best exercises you can do for core (360 degree trunk, not just abdominals), back, and leg strength and stability. The only thing that has saved me from major surgeries - including fusing 2/3 of my spine and to my pelvis - has been weight lifting. Those comments are clearly coming from an uninformed individual(s).
Jan 18 2021 5:02PM
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ronders_
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Squat, DL, Overhead press, cleans, even Bench (and variations such as trap bar DL, rack pulls, pin presses, etc) with proper form are all excellent core strengthening exercises. Your core should be fully engaged for any heavy barbell movements. This is the most difficult part that requires a lot of time to develop for technique, and people get injured when they try to go heavy without first building perfect form and a strong core. If you focus on form in barbell exercises you will notice your core gets way more ripped
Jan 18 2021 7:57PM
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halfwatt
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aaand this is why I wear a belt. 100% agree
ronders_Your core should be fully engaged for any heavy barbell movements.
Jan 18 2021 7:59PM
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jca
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snowdaynwaaand this is why I wear a belt. 100% agree

Leave the belt off unless you're trying a 1RM, you'll get stronger faster.
Jan 18 2021 8:35PM
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tri_photo
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OP you need to tell this guy to stop butt chugging his hemp milk and kale smoothies and to join the real world #GETSWOLE
Jan 18 2021 9:28PM
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dolanslebensraum
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Core strength and leg press/squats will help skiing ability. But having big biceps wont.

if i ever go to a gym again im going to exclusively lift legs. Apparently ur quads release a ton of androgens when you lift legs bc they are such a large muscle. So just lifting legs alone and eating protein will build muscle and burn fat all over your body.

one of my teammates in college had this super frail upper body and these massive legs. Like one of his legs probably weighed as much as his entire upper body. I thought it was funny at the time but in retrospect its kind of cool. Like he would probably be super well balanced on skis or a skateboard and be impossible to tip over.
Jan 19 2021 5:48AM
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Sdot.
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snowdaynwaaand this is why I wear a belt. 100% agree


Belts are intended to supplement when there's insufficient core strength/stability to perform a lift with a heavier weight. The belt essentially locks your trunk/spine into place by providing additional support to your core. You should continue to do lifts without a belt to facilitate natural core strengthening. If you're on IG, check out @squat_university - that guy has so much excellent information and knowledge about form and core strength.
Jan 20 2021 6:01PM
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