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cakattack
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So i got these new ft boots that have gripwalk soles. Apparently they are not compatable with my old bindings, does anyone know how much using the soles with non compatable binding will fuck you up? Im happy ordering the regular ones but they not gonna be here by the time i wanna ski this weekend.
Jan 13 2021 11:39AM
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onenerdykid
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Like any non-compatible/non-certified combination, your release from the binding can be compromised. You may release when you don't want to or you may not release when you need to.

It's best to call shops around your area to see if they have the ISO 5355 versions in stock.
Jan 13 2021 12:13PM
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animator
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cakattackSo i got these new ft boots that have gripwalk soles. Apparently they are not compatable with my old bindings, does anyone know how much using the soles with non compatable binding will fuck you up? Im happy ordering the regular ones but they not gonna be here by the time i wanna ski this weekend.


Don’t do it. If your bindings are incompatible it means that the toe lug of your boot is gonna be pressing up on your toe piece with a whole lot of pressure which means you either won’t click in, or once you’re in you’ll be pushed out constantly. Order some or check your local FT dealers, most will have the 5355 soles.
Jan 13 2021 12:36PM
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GayWolf420
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im the same boat as you OP, only with Tecnicas. I got one pair of skis with GripWalk Pivot18s (Forza), another pair of skis w/ the White Pivots, and a pair of skis with STH2 16 WTRs. GripWalk soles or ISO 5355 or both?
Jan 13 2021 3:01PM
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Wyatt_05
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On some binding you cans clip in , but on some bindings you will come out at the toe too easy.
Jan 14 2021 3:14PM
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elm.
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DeebieSkeebiesim the same boat as you OP, only with Tecnicas. I got one pair of skis with GripWalk Pivot18s (Forza), another pair of skis w/ the White Pivots, and a pair of skis with STH2 16 WTRs. GripWalk soles or ISO 5355 or both?


A shop owner told me that WTR work fine with gripwalk. Skied STH16 WTR yesterday and felt fine. Let me know if that's wrong.
Jan 14 2021 8:25PM
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cakattack
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Wyatt_05On some binding you cans clip in , but on some bindings you will come out at the toe too easy.


U got any idea on how it wld work with old squires
Jan 14 2021 9:11PM
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animator
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elm.A shop owner told me that WTR work fine with gripwalk. Skied STH16 WTR yesterday and felt fine. Let me know if that's wrong.


Legally speaking shops shouldn’t be matching WTR and GripWalk but I’m sure it probably releases ok
Jan 14 2021 9:38PM
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elm.
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animatorLegally speaking shops shouldn’t be matching WTR and GripWalk but I’m sure it probably releases ok


The shop owner gave me a wink and told me how stupid it is that both gripwalk and WTR exist. Ski industry needs to standardize more things.
Jan 14 2021 9:45PM
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animator
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elm.The shop owner gave me a wink and told me how stupid it is that both gripwalk and WTR exist. Ski industry needs to standardize more things.


It absolutely is stupid but again, from a legal standpoint they shouldn’t be doing it
Jan 14 2021 9:59PM
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animator
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animatorIt absolutely is stupid but again, from a legal standpoint they shouldn’t be doing it


Oh actually I lied, GripWalk soles can go in WTR bindings but WTR soles cannot go in GripWalk bindings.
Jan 14 2021 10:00PM
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elm.
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animatorOh actually I lied, GripWalk soles can go in WTR bindings but WTR soles cannot go in GripWalk bindings.


Do any new boots have WTR or have they all switched to gripwalk?
Jan 14 2021 10:13PM
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animator
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elm.Do any new boots have WTR or have they all switched to gripwalk?


No WTR is dead now, new industry norm is GripWalk
Jan 14 2021 10:23PM
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elm.
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animatorNo WTR is dead now, new industry norm is GripWalk


Next year we'll have StickyTrot
Jan 14 2021 10:50PM
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cakattack
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animatorNo WTR is dead now, new industry norm is GripWalk


hey so another quick question, i have like 2016 squires rn and at this point i might just say fuck it and buy some new tryolias or pivots cause i got some money saved up and i been meaning to upgrade for a while. Ill be mounting in pretty much the same center mount, is that gonna mess up the integrity of my skis or smthg. It will be the first remount.
Jan 15 2021 9:56AM
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animator
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cakattackhey so another quick question, i have like 2016 squires rn and at this point i might just say fuck it and buy some new tryolias or pivots cause i got some money saved up and i been meaning to upgrade for a while. Ill be mounting in pretty much the same center mount, is that gonna mess up the integrity of my skis or smthg. It will be the first remount.


Usually a shop can remount a ski up to 3 times. This is completely dependent on boot sole length, hole pattern, and mounting location. You should be ok, but if you want to be in the same place on the ski (I.e. you’re currently mounted center and would like to be center with the new bindings) it may or may not be possible depending on the current and new binding hole patterns. I don’t know off the top of my head but worst case you’d be maybe 1cm behind true center or so. Your shop would be able to tell you!
Jan 15 2021 10:20AM
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Caveman.
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Here is a useful compatibility chart.
https://www.grip-walk.com/wp-content/uploads/GW_Total_Compatibility.pdf
Jan 15 2021 4:15PM
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CatdickBojangles
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While we are on the subject of GripWalk how much better does it feel to walk in them vs flat soles? I have 1 pair of skis that don’t have GW compatible bindings and just put new soles on my FTs but the GripWalk soles just came in stock.
Jan 15 2021 7:27PM
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elm.
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CatdickBojanglesWhile we are on the subject of GripWalk how much better does it feel to walk in them vs flat soles? I have 1 pair of skis that don’t have GW compatible bindings and just put new soles on my FTs but the GripWalk soles just came in stock.

Walking through the parking lot is night and day better. Haven't toured or hiked, but I imagine it will be better.
Jan 15 2021 9:44PM
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onenerdykid
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CatdickBojanglesWhile we are on the subject of GripWalk how much better does it feel to walk in them vs flat soles? I have 1 pair of skis that don’t have GW compatible bindings and just put new soles on my FTs but the GripWalk soles just came in stock.


It walks better but the real benefit is GripWalk soles offer WAY more traction than a dual-density ISO 5355 grip pad. If you are walking/hiking/scrambling, even on snow, there is more grip. Bouncing back and forth when testing boots, it is super obvious how much better GripWalk is compared to ISO 5355.
Jan 16 2021 5:42AM
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GayWolf420
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elm.A shop owner told me that WTR work fine with gripwalk. Skied STH16 WTR yesterday and felt fine. Let me know if that's wrong.


animatorOh actually I lied, GripWalk soles can go in WTR bindings but WTR soles cannot go in GripWalk bindings.


cool cool, figured as much. my STH's work just fine and i got an older pair re-mounted onto a pair of 105 rock skis to go putz around on when bored and make some shorter-radius turns (They're old touring skis.) And still thoroughly impressed with the durability of the bindings, they gotta be at least 5 years old at this point
Jan 16 2021 11:58AM
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