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Ski Modifications - For science?

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PacificRimJob
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So I have a pair of 192 QST 118s just hanging around unmounted and not being loved... and I was thinking.,. how about making them into a swallowtail?

Just measure out a tail gap and then dremmel it out nice and flush. coat it in epoxy and enjoy an even floatier ski. Dont even need to chew threw edges in the tail because it has a plastic tail bumper.



Anyone else done a modification like this? or other types of mods to their skis? Horror stories? Scientific discoveries?
Jan 10 2021 12:03AM
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armchair_skier
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Destroy your skis in 1 easy step.
Jan 10 2021 12:30AM
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OregonDead
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threads
Jan 10 2021 12:42AM
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PacificRimJob
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armchair_skierDestroy your skis in 1 easy step.


I mean, when you have access to as many as I do to begin with, you may as well fuck around. Worse comes to worse, they split and I have another interesting ski for the wall.
Jan 10 2021 12:47AM
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dolanslebensraum
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Doesnt sound even close to being in the same zipcode as a gimmick.
Jan 10 2021 1:00AM
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soup
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I've done it with snowboards with great success. Swallow tails and some nose trimming has made for a some solid shreds.

Also, Just put a skins tail clip notch in my whitewalkers. Skis mods are what's up for sure. Go for it you won't be disappointed
Jan 10 2021 2:47AM
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katrina
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My friend alicia was telling me about some guy at Baker who chopped an old ski in half and made them into a swallow tail for one of his ripper kids since they don't really make junior pow skis. So... Maybe practice on another pair though they aren't making the 118 anymore and those skis are pretty ba.
Jan 10 2021 8:25AM
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TOAST.
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See a lot of snowboarders doing it, I'd say go for it.
Jan 10 2021 8:55AM
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PacificRimJob
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So this happened haha








Jan 10 2021 7:38PM
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ColoradoDogfart
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DingoSeanSo this happened haha










those look soooo sick my guy!! you need to do a review on them once you ski em
Jan 10 2021 7:52PM
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OregonDead
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like the all black nice!
Jan 10 2021 8:07PM
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snowfinder
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more of this please
Jan 11 2021 7:26AM
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b0ss
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Do it. Put an adidas stripe vynil topsheet cover on it. Slavomon
Jan 11 2021 8:40AM
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jps2.0
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this won't work on the qst 118 because it has a cork tail,
Jan 11 2021 3:23PM
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PacificRimJob
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jps2.0this won't work on the qst 118 because it has a cork tail,


The QST I have is the model from 2018 or 2019. The tips and tails are koroyd. Probably a bit more friendly to this kinda modification?

Either way, decided to go with the Pinnacle 118.

So far cutting its length down was probably not ideal, as they ski way short and soft in the tail and the tips skyrocket out of the snow haha. But theyre also optimized for a short japanese guy so theyre probably great for him. If I cut these QSTs down, ill keep the same 192 length they are.
Jan 12 2021 12:58AM
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Skibumsmith
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katrinaMy friend alicia was telling me about some guy at Baker who chopped an old ski in half and made them into a swallow tail for one of his ripper kids since they don't really make junior pow skis. So... Maybe practice on another pair though they aren't making the 118 anymore and those skis are pretty ba.


Why are they discontinuing that ski?
Jan 12 2021 2:54AM
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PacificRimJob
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SkibumsmithWhy are they discontinuing that ski?


I havent heard any news for next year.. but its still in the lineup for this season thats for sure. They only modified it 2 years ago, and unless they want to do a big ol lineup change again, Im not sure why they want to do that since theyve well dialed in the current line.
Jan 12 2021 3:04AM
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katrina
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SkibumsmithWhy are they discontinuing that ski?


Didn't sell well to the primary consumer base, majority of people who bought it were shop / industry people is what I've heard from salomon friends. The 112 will take it's place.
Jan 12 2021 9:25AM
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SofaKingSick
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that's really sick. excited to hear how they ride
Jan 12 2021 10:36AM
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little1337
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those came out way better than I expected them to I bet they'll be fun to ride
Jan 12 2021 11:03AM
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mnosbod
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DingoSeanThe QST I have is the model from 2018 or 2019. The tips and tails are koroyd. Probably a bit more friendly to this kinda modification?

Either way, decided to go with the Pinnacle 118.

So far cutting its length down was probably not ideal, as they ski way short and soft in the tail and the tips skyrocket out of the snow haha. But theyre also optimized for a short japanese guy so theyre probably great for him. If I cut these QSTs down, ill keep the same 192 length they are.


Are you gonna remount the bindings further forward with the decrease in tail? Wonder if that would help. Wish I had the space and gear to mess around like this haha
Jan 12 2021 11:27AM
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Bended_Toenail
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Next you gotta get some Sakanas and put a normal tail on them
Jan 12 2021 11:39AM
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No.Quarter
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I've been wanting to do this with my Jeffrey 114s. I almost never ski switch, and they are currently mounted with telemark bindings, so having a little less tail would be pretty nice in tight stuff. This was just the motivation I needed to send it.

I think I just suck at drawing neat curves, but I cant seem to draw a shape that I like. I'm thinking I may just print a picture of the Sakana tails and scale it to the width of my skis.
Jan 12 2021 12:06PM
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mountaindewgirl
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There's a handful of downhill speedrider snowskaters that experiment a bit with modifying skis.

They'll do a straight chop off the tail till the ski is in the 138-158 cm range and mount a deck on it.

The setups look pretty thugnasty cuz they usually chop their topdecks as well.

Pretty sure they just kinda started doing this in the last few months though and are still figuring it out. You never actually seem to see them speedriding the mods... yet.

I'm watching very intently as it unfolds, cuz Id be lying if I said I wasn't a little tempted to get in on the action...

But yeah dude, if I had access to a bunch of skis, best believe I'd be fucking around on my Dremmel. Glad to see you did it!
Jan 12 2021 2:10PM
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weastcoat
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So I don’t know anything about powder/ all mountain skis. What’s the purpose of a swallow tail or whatever it’s called.
Jan 12 2021 6:52PM
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snowfinder
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Less tail drag same amount of effective edge
weastcoastSo I don’t know anything about powder/ all mountain skis. What’s the purpose of a swallow tail or whatever it’s called.
Jan 12 2021 7:19PM
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PacificRimJob
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mnosbodAre you gonna remount the bindings further forward with the decrease in tail? Wonder if that would help. Wish I had the space and gear to mess around like this haha


Id just mount them on the balance point of the ski. Ill be mounting the QSTs as a Telemark ski.



I also have a shed full of skis back in the USA right now that Im itching to get my hands on so I can do more of the same sorta thing as this to them.
Jan 13 2021 12:30AM
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Skiing247
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you can wax with fecal for faster grinds
Jan 13 2021 11:10PM
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TheClap.
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DingoSeanI mean, when you have access to as many as I do to begin with


Cool claim, glad to see you are grown and still a fucking tool.
Jan 14 2021 8:24AM
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PacificRimJob
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TheClap.Cool claim, glad to see you are grown and still a fucking tool.

Dude you have no idea. All grow’d up and such a fucking tool that I’m now hosting Tool Time with Tim the Toolman Taylor.
Jan 18 2021 7:46AM
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