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TreyDudski
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So i was up at PC this past week and witnessed my brother tear both ACLs doing a 3 on a park jump, we have not come to a conclusion on why/how it happened (DIN too high, loose tendons, heavy skis...was on a pair of 2014 line opus, etc.) but we believe that the DINs were way too high...13 I think. My question is this, what is a good DIN to be set at while not absolutely destroying your knees but also a perfect medium so they arent popping off every 5 minutes?
Dec 28 2020 8:40PM
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BestDamnSkier
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TreyDudskiSo i was up at PC this past week and witnessed my brother tear both ACLs doing a 3 on a park jump, we have not come to a conclusion on why/how it happened (DIN too high, loose tendons, heavy skis...was on a pair of 2014 line opus, etc.) but we believe that the DINs were way too high...13 I think. My question is this, what is a good DIN to be set at while not absolutely destroying your knees but also a perfect medium so they arent popping off every 5 minutes?


It depends on weight and height of the skier. There is a chart that ski techs follow. I follow the basic rule of increase DINs if they shouldn't have fallen off, decrease DINs if they should have fallen off.

That said it may not be just the bindings. Heavy squats and other exercises will allow your knees to absorb heavier forces.
Dec 28 2020 8:49PM
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MikeUrich
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It goes off of your weight mainly, from my knowledge atleast. How did he land? Did he land back seat and in a twisting motion? If so thats the main way of tearing your acl along with hyper extension. I have been riding KneeBindings in the park the last 5 seasons in the park. I tore my acl in 2014. They have a 3rd realese. Its a lateral release in the heal piece. I have do cork 7s, sw9s, 450s on, 810s out with them and they really give me an extra sense of confort in the park. You and your brother should check them out! Any questions, shoot me a message! Hope your brother recovers fast!
Dec 28 2020 8:51PM
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wyld_stallyns
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Lol. "Not sure how it happened"...dins set at a 13 learning 360s might be your problem bub

Gotta love when people mess with their dins after being set by someone who knows what their doing

But give your bro the best, that does suck indeed
Dec 28 2020 8:51PM
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galardogod
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MikeUrichIt goes off of your weight mainly, from my knowledge atleast. How did he land? Did he land back seat and in a twisting motion? If so thats the main way of tearing your acl along with hyper extension. I have been riding KneeBindings in the park the last 5 seasons in the park. I tore my acl in 2014. They have a 3rd realese. Its a lateral release in the heal piece. I have do cork 7s, sw9s, 450s on, 810s out with them and they really give me an extra sense of confort in the park. You and your brother should check them out! Any questions, shoot me a message! Hope your brother recovers fast!

This , normal bindings do little to help ACLs and a lot to protect against broke legs . The knee binding is the only binding that releases in a plane that helps mitigate knee Injuries. I had a pretty awful experience with the knee binding though, I’m not sure how you are able to ski park on them as I was frequently pre released when I tried to spin. They are also heavy , ( not that much different than pivots given I just am use to squires or wardens) . The carbon may be a little lighter . Overall they do work, clinically speaking they reduced knee injuries a significant amount.

@MikeUrich what do you set your dins on? I’d like to be able to ski mine .
Dec 28 2020 8:58PM
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MikeUrich
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I have the 14din binding from KneeBinding. I rock all 3 of my dins at 12 and I am 5'10 and weigh a little over 200lbs (Dad weight fluctuates haha) Also, make sure your forward pressure is set correctly. There is 2 rings on the forward pressure screw. When clicked in, you only want to see that ring that is furthest back on that screw. Any questions, shoot me a message!
galardogodThis , normal bindings do little to help ACLs and a lot to protect against broke legs . The knee binding is the only binding that releases in a plane that helps mitigate knee Injuries. I had a pretty awful experience with the knee binding though, I’m not sure how you are able to ski park on them as I was frequently pre released when I tried to spin. They are also heavy , ( not that much different than pivots given I just am use to squires or wardens) . The carbon may be a little lighter . Overall they do work, clinically speaking they reduced knee injuries a significant amount.

@MikeUrich what do you set your dins on? I’d like to be able to ski mine .
Dec 28 2020 9:15PM
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ericforman
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Damn that sucks. But man don’t set the dins at 13 especially if you know you are gonna fall learning new stuff. Just let a professional set them properly.

Wear a back protector and get comfortable bailing. Landing backseat and trying to ride it out is a huge problem. Sometimes you gotta slam and it helps if you get some padding to get through the mental hurdle.
Dec 28 2020 9:26PM
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TreyDudski
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Btw he ain’t a beginner and these weren’t his first 3’s.. he landed backseat off a hard carved cork 3.. thanks for all the support!!
Dec 28 2020 9:28PM
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lcoopman
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ericformanDamn that sucks. But man don’t set the dins at 13 especially if you know you are gonna fall learning new stuff. Just let a professional set them properly.

Wear a back protector and get comfortable bailing. Landing backseat and trying to ride it out is a huge problem. Sometimes you gotta slam and it helps if you get some padding to get through the mental hurdle.


This. I also wear some light weight motocross knee braces to help prevent knee injuries. They've saved me a few times.
Dec 28 2020 9:34PM
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ericforman
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Oh lol my bad. Probs still lower them dins unless he’s huge. Sometimes freak shit just happens...
TreyDudskiBtw he ain’t a beginner and these weren’t his first 3’s.. he landed backseat off a hard carved cork 3.. thanks for all the support!!
Dec 28 2020 10:01PM
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eheath
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TreyDudskiBtw he ain’t a beginner and these weren’t his first 3’s.. he landed backseat off a hard carved cork 3.. thanks for all the support!!


Like others have said, there isn't much you can do to your binding to help out here, landing backseat in a twisting motion is gonna get your hurt.
Dec 28 2020 10:17PM
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eheath
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Oh and best way to prevent hurting your knees is to condition your leg muscles, there are tons of workouts to help stabilize your knees.
Dec 28 2020 10:17PM
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