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Anyone can help me to beat my fear?

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WilliTheLuck
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At my park, we only have big jumps, i know how to do a 360 but I'm scared to do it on these jumps because they are really big. the smallest one is 23'





**This thread was edited on Dec 22nd 2020 at 5:41:58pm
Dec 22 2020 5:34PM
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dant02
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Find a small side hit somewhere else on the mountain. Practice spinning 3s in your ski boots without skis, then take it to snow. Just remember to keep your shins against the front of your boots as you take off and lead the rotation with your shoulders and head
Dec 22 2020 5:36PM
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little1337
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As corny as it sounds, you just gotta go for it. Straight air the jumps a few times and get the speed down and then just have the homies hype you up at the top and throw one. You should also think about it like one of your first 360s and really focus on spotting your landing and having a comfortable rotation, that will not only help with the 3 but it will kind of take your mind off the fear
Dec 22 2020 5:37PM
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SuspiciousFish
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Lap the park a bunch to get used to the airtime ect. Then start doing 180s. Then find some natural lips etc to do 360 to get comfortable. Then put it all together and throw the 360 on the bigger park jumps.



That or tell the park crew the need some smaller features to progress on.
Dec 22 2020 5:38PM
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WilliTheLuck
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We need to have a lot of speed and the end of the kicker is high ( sorry my english is bad)
Dec 22 2020 5:43PM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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you’ve just got to send it and commit. If you fall, you fall - then learn from your mistakes
Dec 22 2020 5:55PM
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Roumarin
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Dec 22 2020 6:00PM
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WilliTheLuck
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I'm scared because the jump is high and I don't want to get hurt. I know I have to send it but it's still scary.
Dec 22 2020 7:10PM
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MoneyMakerMike
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WilliTheLuckI'm scared because the jump is high and I don't want to get hurt. I know I have to send it but it's still scary.


Just go for it man. It’s quite unlikely you’ll get hurt if you commit
Dec 22 2020 7:14PM
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iced
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honestly if I were in ur boots I would find a large kicker and practice off that first if there is truly no other side hits or anything.
Its a shitty thing to do but its also shitty for a mountain's park crew to only have a 23' jump minimum



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also do some straight airs from the same drop in point and count how long your airtime is
Its an extra comfort to know you have 4missisipis to bring your trick around

**This post was edited on Dec 22nd 2020 at 7:19:07pm
Dec 22 2020 7:14PM
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katrina
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Get comfortable ollie-ing (idk how that word should be spelled) over the knuckle into the landing, then ask someone who is hitting the jump comfortably if you can follow them for speed, follow them in about 20ft back or so and hit the other side of the jump as them just in case they fell, and you'll just ski away and then be like oh a 20ft jump is actually a really sweet size jump and then you'll be stomping 360s off it and then some. The end.
Dec 22 2020 8:01PM
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BigmoneyMatt
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Just get comfortable on the bigger jumps, like when I started hitting big jumps for the first time it was way after I was able to. I only ski tiny hills with tiny jumps so when I hit my first big jump I felt like I had so much float to throw 360's

My point is it should be easier, if you throw to hard just make it a 5 whatever. landing sideways on big jumps isn't the biggest deal as long as your shoulders are flat to the horizon cause the landing should be perfectly smooth.
Dec 22 2020 8:22PM
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freestyler540
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Look up to big air dave. He will guide you
Dec 22 2020 9:56PM
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Young_patty
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So I know it’s logical to be scared of the bigger jump but tbh it’s actually easier to do a 360 on a bigger jump WHEN you are comfortable hitting them.

find the speed, hit it until you get the feel, hit it with a grab or something for confidence and then just go do a 360.


Make sure you’re good at 3’a though cause catching a tip or something would blow
Dec 23 2020 12:27AM
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WilliTheLuck
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Young_pattySo I know it’s logical to be scared of the bigger jump but tbh it’s actually easier to do a 360 on a bigger jump WHEN you are comfortable hitting them.

find the speed, hit it until you get the feel, hit it with a grab or something for confidence and then just go do a 360.


Make sure you’re good at 3’a though cause catching a tip or something would blow


Should i do a safety or a japan?
Dec 23 2020 12:28AM
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Young_patty
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WilliTheLuckShould i do a safety or a japan?


Whichever you’d feel more comfortable trying first, both should be chillin.
Dec 23 2020 12:38AM
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BigmoneyMatt
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Pro tip: 180 safety grab looks dope as fuck. Its easy to. Just work on tweakin the shit outta it, then you'll be throwin 3s no prob.
Dec 23 2020 12:46AM
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WoFIowz
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Whatever you do, if you find yourself stalled in the rotation, do your best not to fall on your back. Got whiplash twice trying this last year. That was really it. Falling didn't hurt, just the aftermath
Dec 24 2020 1:51AM
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ScaryDumpTruck
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So you don't cork it which is probably the worst thing that can happen, don't look at your skis. Look across the horizon so basically just turn your head in the direction you are spinning.
Dec 24 2020 2:15AM
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skiP.E.I.
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Those jumps are the ideal size to do 3s off and progress to putting grabs in and adding rotations. As someone else said, just hit the jumps A LOT, like lap them all day long doin shifties, boner airs, different grabs, daffies, whatever you can think of that you're comfortable with. It won't take long for you to get comfortable on the jumps, then do some 180s and switch 180s. At this point you will probably feel quite comfortable trying 3s.
Dec 24 2020 12:28PM
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Obama_care
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It’s always easier the bigger you go so as long as you have the confidence to get it first try you easily got it
Dec 24 2020 12:31PM
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SofaKingSick
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dant02Just remember to keep your shins against the front of your boots as you take off and lead the rotation with your shoulders and head


good advice, and flex that core baby, you're in control, not the air


also OP just hit that jump until you're used to it. honestly 3s are easier on a decent sized, nice jump like that. i think the most common mistakes you see with beginners doing 3s is they try it on too small a jump and have to whip it around and/or lean back and leaning back on 3s is the big no-no

no exaggeration, if i'm rusty on my skis i'd rather do a 3 on a big jump than a little one. panic/rushing is the 360's greatest natural enemy
Dec 24 2020 12:33PM
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skiP.E.I.
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WilliTheLuckShould i do a safety or a japan?


I'd recommend the japan because it keeps your weight a little more centered, and it takes a little more reach to get, so it might help improve your air awareness a little more. I find a solid safety grab off-centers me more than a Japan.
Dec 24 2020 12:33PM
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WilliTheLuck
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I finally did it!!!!!!!!!!
Feb 6 2021 7:36PM
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SofaKingSick
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WilliTheLuckI finally did it!!!!!!!!!!


Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh boyeeeeeeeeeeee

was it on that jump you posted?
Feb 6 2021 8:51PM
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WilliTheLuck
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SofaKingSickYeahhhhhhhhhhhh boyeeeeeeeeeeee

was it on that jump you posted?


On the 23' one
Feb 6 2021 9:38PM
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GKS
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WilliTheLuckOn the 23' one

Atta be
Feb 6 2021 9:42PM
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gusbus432
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Hi, I'm reviving this thread because I didn't want to make one> I can 360 but only at slow speeds. at high speeds everything goes bad, I often land on one side or tail heavy. I can figure out whats going wrong, and my goal was to 3 the big jumps before the end of the season (Ive got one ski day left.) I feel like Ive tried everything but still dont know. Any tips or ideas as to why i'm messing them up so bad? Ill try to upload a vid of a good one and a bad one
Apr 5 2021 10:03PM
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TOAST.
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gusbus432Hi, I'm reviving this thread because I didn't want to make one> I can 360 but only at slow speeds. at high speeds everything goes bad, I often land on one side or tail heavy. I can figure out whats going wrong, and my goal was to 3 the big jumps before the end of the season (Ive got one ski day left.) I feel like Ive tried everything but still dont know. Any tips or ideas as to why i'm messing them up so bad? Ill try to upload a vid of a good one and a bad one


Keep your weight forward against your ski boot tongues and make sure your shoulders stay flat when you throw it and not at the angle of the lip.
Apr 5 2021 11:09PM
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katrina
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TOAST.Keep your weight forward against your ski boot tongues and make sure your shoulders stay flat when you throw it and not at the angle of the lip.


This. And pretend to try for a mute grab (or actually do it) which can help keep you forward
Apr 6 2021 12:10AM
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gusbus432
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Mmm okok thanks. I was focusing on pressing my chins to the fronts of my boots but probably need to get my upper body weight forward. The lip is really steep
Apr 6 2021 11:47AM
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katrina
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gusbus432Mmm okok thanks. I was focusing on pressing my chins to the fronts of my boots but probably need to get my upper body weight forward. The lip is really steep


Absorb the lip more than pop in that situation.
Apr 6 2021 11:51AM
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gusbus432
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Now I have never tried that! My friends do say my pop is really strong
Apr 6 2021 12:13PM
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c-fries
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gusbus432Hi, I'm reviving this thread because I didn't want to make one> I can 360 but only at slow speeds. at high speeds everything goes bad, I often land on one side or tail heavy. I can figure out whats going wrong, and my goal was to 3 the big jumps before the end of the season (Ive got one ski day left.) I feel like Ive tried everything but still dont know. Any tips or ideas as to why i'm messing them up so bad? Ill try to upload a vid of a good one and a bad one


Try your very best to keep your head as level as possible. With more airtime it’s very tempting to look down, especially when you’re going to grab. But remember, the body follows where the head goes. Try to keep your head on the horizon and bring your skis to your hands for a grab as you spin.
Apr 6 2021 4:20PM
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gusbus432
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Cool thanks. When should I look for the landing then?
Apr 6 2021 6:04PM
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SofaKingSick
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gusbus432Cool thanks. When should I look for the landing then?


Just casually look for it. On a 3 I honestly think that 90% of mistakes made are because the person feels like they need to rush around. You don't, it's only one spin, and trying to rush it gets people all out of form and fucks up their balance

there are kinda a few different distinct ways to go about your 3s; I suggest you watch videos and find one that you like and to which your skiing lizard brain goes "oh yeah, I get that one, I can visualize myself doing that." And study that one and let it guide your approach.

And that way you're actively doing something...lead the dance on a 3 and it's simple and easy. Be passive and you get pulled off balance
Apr 6 2021 7:57PM
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gusbus432
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That definitely makes sense, because I remember a good jump where all I had to do was look and it was very successful. The higher speed park jumps are intimidating and i think I try too hard. The first clip was successful and the two after were close to disaster on a small park jump and a cat track.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1000033/167646929-383562142628080-1060183330830744378-n-mp4

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1000034/20210216-160155--1--mp4

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1000035/20210402-161635-mp4

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Apr 6 2021 9:53PM
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gusbus432
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sorry the 2nd clip was successful the other two were not
Apr 6 2021 10:01PM
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