Full tilts, black toes and Boot fitting.

So first off, mondo sizing doesn't really equate to shoe sizes because much like shoes, there is no industry, "standardization." While every company might sell a 27.5, they won't fit the same because there isn't one higher power dictating how manufacturers have to measure their boots.
Did you do anything different on the ninth day of skiing? Even something as insignificant as riding with a thicker sock can really change how a boot feels. If Full Tilt does warranty it, they would replace the liner and the buckles, not likely that they replace the whole boot as its cheaper for them to replace the parts.
Bootfitters usually charge for work that they do, e.g. stretching a shell, or molding a footbed. Im assuming you bought them online (I'll be the first one to say it, but especially given that you're new to skiing, if you bought them online that was a dumb move)? A boot fitter would probably be able to measure your foot and tell you if you're in the right size or not, most shops would be cool with providing some guidance.

Hope this helps, and feel free to ask any questions man!

Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it.
Yeah I bought a few boots online and tried my best to research and fit it the best I could do on my own then returned the others, but going to a fitter was obviously what I should’ve done at this point haha.

I did double up on socks the day my toe went black so maybe that’s the culprit! I’ll try em out again with one pair of socks, cuz I can still make the ripped liner work a little longer, and try to get the liners warrantied and see if a boot fitter can help at all at this point.

Skiblade420Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it.
Yeah I bought a few boots online and tried my best to research and fit it the best I could do on my own then returned the others, but going to a fitter was obviously what I should’ve done at this point haha.

I did double up on socks the day my toe went black so maybe that’s the culprit! I’ll try em out again with one pair of socks, cuz I can still make the ripped liner work a little longer, and try to get the liners warrantied and see if a boot fitter can help at all at this point.

So yeah, I have only ever skied in super thing Smartwool socks. One day I decided to try some other brand of sock that happened to be more like hiking socks, pretty thick and warm. But it KILLED my feet and it took me a while to figure it out but ultimately yeah the socks were what fucked me up so it very well could be that it happened to you as well!

animatorSo yeah, I have only ever skied in super thing Smartwool socks. One day I decided to try some other brand of sock that happened to be more like hiking socks, pretty thick and warm. But it KILLED my feet and it took me a while to figure it out but ultimately yeah the socks were what fucked me up so it very well could be that it happened to you as well!

I am glad I am not the only one, I tried a new brand of socks day 1 this year and was in crippling pain. Nothing has changed since last year except for the socks and I switched back to my smartwools the next time I went and zero pain. Bummed I spent $50 on socks that don't work for me and honestly didn't think it would matter.

I wear a size 11 shoe as well and rode 28.5 full tilts for like 7 years with no problem even though my toes do touch the fronts a little bit. I’ve found really keeping your stance and forward lean proper helps a lot with the toe problem, but they only ever really hurt for me when I was breaking them in.

Also I bought a pair of 29.5 first chair 10’s and idk if it’s the fact they’re too big, or the combo of that and upping the stiffness (6 to 10 flex) but my shins were absolutely obliterated from like 2 hours of skiing. legit worse than when I was in high school and had shitty rossignol ski swap boots.

All that being said, you should probably just hit up the fitter. I’m hitting one up this weekend I’ll let you know how it goes.

**This post was edited on Dec 18th 2020 at 12:53:20am

AaronO.I wear a size 11 shoe as well and rode 28.5 full tilts for like 7 years with no problem even though my toes do touch the fronts a little bit. I’ve found really keeping your stance and forward lean proper helps a lot with the toe problem, but they only ever really hurt for me when I was breaking them in.

Also I bought a pair of 29.5 first chair 10’s and idk if it’s the fact they’re too big, or the combo of that and upping the stiffness (6 to 10 flex) but my shins were absolutely obliterated from like 2 hours of skiing. legit worse than when I was in high school and had shitty rossignol ski swap boots.

All that being said, you should probably just hit up the fitter. I’m hitting one up this weekend I’ll let you know how it goes.

**This post was edited on Dec 18th 2020 at 12:53:20am

For the record, your toes are supposed to touch the front of your boots when they’re new. When you’re standing up straight your toes should be touching, and when you flex the boots they should move back away from the front. The liner packs out so you gain room once it’s broken in. If your toes aren’t touching the front at all when you’re trying boots on, you’ll have too much room after it’s been broken in.

If you did your research you would have known to see a boot fitter. I’d say lesson learned

Skiblade420Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it.
Yeah I bought a few boots online and tried my best to research and fit it the best I could do on my own then returned the others, but going to a fitter was obviously what I should’ve done at this point haha.

I did double up on socks the day my toe went black so maybe that’s the culprit! I’ll try em out again with one pair of socks, cuz I can still make the ripped liner work a little longer, and try to get the liners warrantied and see if a boot fitter can help at all at this point.

Homie, NEVER double up on ski socks. I worked as a boot fitter for 5 years, you'd be surprised the change a good pair of socks can make. Do you have insoles in the boots? Not the shitty stock ones, but ones that provided real support? They can pull your foot back a bit and give you a better fit.

Cade2If you did your research you would have known to see a boot fitter. I’d say lesson learned

Yeah, I mean I don’t live anywhere near the mountains and had friends planning a trip on opening weekend so I tried the best I could. Boots felt great the first 8 days this season so far so I’m thinking it’s the doubling up on socks on day 9, also the far ass parking spot we got haha

safarisamHomie, NEVER double up on ski socks. I worked as a boot fitter for 5 years, you'd be surprised the change a good pair of socks can make. Do you have insoles in the boots? Not the shitty stock ones, but ones that provided real support? They can pull your foot back a bit and give you a better fit.

Yeah I’m really hoping it works better this weekend without two pairs. I actually got some of those footprint insoles game changers. They’re for skating and you heat mold em at home, only like 45 bucks. I know people use em for snowboarding aswell and love em. I think they’re working good... but I’m sure a professional insole for skiing takes more precision.

Skiblade420Yeah I’m really hoping it works better this weekend without two pairs. I actually got some of those footprint insoles game changers. They’re for skating and you heat mold em at home, only like 45 bucks. I know people use em for snowboarding aswell and love em. I think they’re working good... but I’m sure a professional insole for skiing takes more precision.

A real custom footbed is gonna cost a lot of fucking money, I use superfeet that are $50 and they work great. Definitely avoid 2 socks, and you’ll be good!